25-10-2004 08:17									#31
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OK,I want to know something. How is it, that if I stay up, there's only 2 (count them, Two) headcrabs that drop out of the vent, but when I slid down the side, there must have been 20 dropping down the elevator shaft?

I mean, just where do they come from?

	25-10-2004 08:26									#32
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quote: Originally posted by Solver 1.1.1.0 is the latest you can get from Web. Google for it. There's also a newer update, but that's only from Steam... so it's only available if you still have a CD key for HL, and if you want to use that terrible service that Steam is (OK, HL2 forces you to use Steam to install anyway). Mind you, that there are a few bugs with the patch, even. Including the one I mentioned.

Ok, so I did a search for patches, and found a all in one patch.

82 MEGABYTES!!!!!!!!!!

I only have dial up.

so I put in the 1.1.0.9 patch from the disc and maybe I'll download the 1.1.0.9 to 1.1.1.0 patch (still 12 MB!) at some point.

is there any real advantage to the patches, the readme seems to update multiplayer for the most part.

	25-10-2004 08:48									#33
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I cheat on that part because it's so annoying. You can "slide down" on the right side of the elevator.

	25-10-2004 14:25									#34
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quote: is there any real advantage to the patches, the readme seems to update multiplayer for the most part.

No idea really. MP exists through Steam only now anyway, so maybe 1.0.0.9 will do you fine.

And what's so hard about that elevator part, honestly? I just keep moving there, shooting crabs... not a hard moment at all.

	03-11-2004 22:26									#35
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So, did you beat the game? What did you think? Were there any places that really kept killing you?

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	05-11-2004 09:51									#36
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I haven't finished it yet. I'm in the part called "Blast Pit" . I'm relying a lot on the walkthrough.

	05-11-2004 10:03									#37
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Dont bother with the patches for HL unless youre playing Counter-strike or other mod or MP.

	06-11-2004 00:27									#38
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The blast pit is a cool section.

	06-11-2004 04:28									#39
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I like fighting the soldiers.

	06-11-2004 18:31									#40
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Remember, it's 10 days now (under 240 hours) till release of HL2. So your time to finish it is limited. I think it took me about a week the first time I played - now I can finish it in 2 days. Ehh.

It's good to know that you still have the best part of the game ahead.

	06-11-2004 19:27									#41
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quote: Originally posted by Solver Remember, it's 10 days now (under 240 hours) till release of HL2. So your time to finish it is limited. I think it took me about a week the first time I played - now I can finish it in 2 days. Ehh. It's good to know that you still have the best part of the game ahead.

Errr... Not really. I have a athlon 800 withe a 16MB tnt2 videocard. it will be quite some time before I look at HL2

	06-11-2004 22:35									#42
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Ahh, indeed.

	08-11-2004 20:11									#43
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ok, so I got back to Half Life after almost a week, going around the blast pit area.

I have decided I can only play this game for about an hour at a time. Otherwise I'll go to bed and wake up to the sound of a headcrab scream. This game can get Freaky.

No more so (so far) than dealing with those horrible things coming out of the pit. I have long since lost count of how many times I have died and reloaded after getting pecked by those things. I estimate it's about 50 so far.

The walkthrough gave me the idea for using grenades to distract them momentarily, but I'm back after turning on the fuel and oxygen and got the power on, but now I have tomake it back up to the top, and I Have No Grenades.

I'm hoping I can just be real quiet. I have made it to the second level by taking a single step during the banging, then waiting until they start banging again and taking another single step. I save every several steps. I couldn't believe it when I made it up the first ladder, but I was totally freaked and shut the computer down.

Then I played some Dink Smallwood to unwind.

	08-11-2004 21:56									#44
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quote: The walkthrough gave me the idea for using grenades to distract them momentarily, but I'm back after turning on the fuel and oxygen and got the power on, but now I have tomake it back up to the top, and I Have No Grenades. I'm hoping I can just be real quiet. I have made it to the second level by taking a single step during the banging, then waiting until they start banging again and taking another single step. I save every several steps. I couldn't believe it when I made it up the first ladder, but I was totally freaked and shut the computer down.

Err, you are probably running like mad. Just hold down crouch, and they won't be able to hear you.

Sure enough, another method to do it is very fast, that's how I prefer it now. To go down initially, I take the shotgun, run and jump down full speed, using the shotgun to blast through the wood. To go back after that, I run and jump, also throwing a grenade at some point - if you're fast enough, they can't get you either.

	08-11-2004 23:42									#45
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Yeah grenades are the key. If yoiu run out there are more available around the level. Just bung the grenade past the door and leg it to the door.

	09-11-2004 06:00									#46
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Here's a tip. If you understand what I mean, you'll get through just fine. Face towards the wall while going around that area (it's kind of a hexagonal or octoganal room IIRC). Always face toward the wall so that your body is against it. Then "walk" into the wall. Because the wall impedes most of your forward progress, you end up moving sideways very slowly. If you move at a slow enough speed, they won't hear you and they'll ignore you completely.

	09-11-2004 10:07									#47
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Yeah, I forgot that crouch puts you in stealth mode. Still, it seems they can hear me climb the ladder if I'm too fast.

I actually managed to get to the top with no grenades, just stealth, and found I hadn't turned the power on properly .
I guess you have to hit the button on both sides of the thing. I had only pushed one of them.

I had to reload, the only point that would work was before I went down the pit. This time I saved a few grenades for the return trip.

It was still very harrowing, with 30-40 deaths, but it was all worth it when I fired up the rockets. Die Suckers!!!

It felt very weird to go down the pit without the banging.

	09-11-2004 13:48									#48
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And that's just the first major monster you need to kill. Lots of game yet.

	09-11-2004 20:02									#49
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Yeah, you're just at the beggining. But indeed... finally firing that rocket is really, really satisfactory.

	10-11-2004 02:07									#50
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quote: Originally posted by Father Beast I have decided I can only play this game for about an hour at a time. Otherwise I'll go to bed and wake up to the sound of a headcrab scream. This game can get Freaky.

You should never play System Shock 2 if you think Half Life is bad.

	10-11-2004 02:21									#51
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Yeah HL has a couple of jumpy moments where a face hugger surprises you (there are some nice tunnel moments coming up FB ) but nothing like the constant edginess of SS2.

	10-11-2004 03:06									#52
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Yeah, SS, Doom3 or Silent Hill are scarier... but there's something scary about those HL headcrabs. Something very specific, different from the scares in thoes other games.

	10-11-2004 04:30									#53
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Blast Pit

The first time I played it, and I saw that guy obliterated in front of me, I got very, very scared.

Took me many tries to figure it out.

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quote: Originally posted by pg You should never play System Shock 2 if you think Half Life is bad.

Yeah System Shock2, I never got really far into the game cause it was too scary
Actually I went away for a while and when I came back I didn't go any further because I forgot where I was and what skills I had etc...
There's even a gfx update for it. It makes the zombies extra scary, with bulging veins&muscles!

	11-11-2004 00:12									#55
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And the way the zombies and other monsters spawn adds to the tension. Take a peek at the personal data device? Odds are when you look back a zombie is just about to split your skull open.

	11-11-2004 02:46									#56
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quote: Originally posted by pg You should never play System Shock 2 if you think Half Life is bad.

I agree. While Half Life is freaky in its own way. SS2 is something of a legend among those who have played it. When we had a "worst game villians" thread a while back, SHODAN was the overwhelming pick by everyone who has played SS2 for any length of time.

I admit, though, to having a weird moment while sneaking about the pit, when they would all stop banging at once and be waving their heads about, looking for me. It occurred to me that only an idiot or someone with lots of saves would dare try this.

	11-11-2004 18:35									#57
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OK, so last night I'm playing Half Life with my 5 year old son and my 10 year old daughter looking on. I show them the part where I turn on the rocket and incinerate those **** monstrous things that gave me so much trouble. Then I went down to the pit.

My son asks, like he always does, why do I save? I tell him because I'm afraid that I'll do something stupid and die. I then die about 12 times falling down the pit until I can figure out how to fall in the water. I save again at the water's edge and then die about 6 more times while trying to find a way through the water.

By this time, my kids are chuckling with every new death. I am so glad when I come out next to the river of radioactive waste and find some health and an all too rare suit recharge.

My son is chanting "stupid, stupid" every time I slip off the pipes into the waste and reload, and my daughter is giggling uncontrollably.

by the time I get to where the pipe falls down into the room, they are having a good time. I reload several times, trying to not lose as much health when I fall, while still being ready to kill that headcrab under the table.

In a most amusing moment. I walked a beam and accidentally slid down the front of the pipe, crashed through the ceiling and broke the table as I landed on it, smashing the headcrab underneath. My kids were rolling on the floor laughing.

Since I still had most of my health after being recharged by the packs I had landed on, I figured that was about as good as I would get and saved. I then smashed open all the boxes and got some... Cameras?!?! What good are the cameras?

I saved again before walking down the hall. My kids are saying "come on, dad, do something stupid so you can die again". Yeah, right. But when I saw that I had entered Power Up, I decided that was it for the night, and I would just walk down the hall until I got killed.

I walk into this room where a huge monstrosity like an armored Hulk was going around and blasting with some kind of flamethrower. I just blithely walk in and unload my shotgun on him (to no effect) before I get toasted. I then say that's it for the night.

That's when I turn and see my daughter scrunched up on her chair, with her arms wrapped around her legs, emitting little whiny noises like Ron Weasley when he saw the giant spiders in Chamber Of Secrets. She finally gets out, "That thing is Humungous!!!"

Nothing like a little family computer time, is there?

	11-11-2004 19:08									#58
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I'm looking forward buying this game. I bought the first one (and CS) when they came out so I have been waiting for this one

	11-11-2004 21:19									#59
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Nice story . And love the GMan in Power Up, as always.

A tip: that big blue thing is a Gargantua. Never fight those. You can, in fact, kill them with a LOT of heavy weapon fire (grenades, satchels, RPG), but you'd be wasting your time and probably wouldn't survive. Either avoid the encounter by running, or seek... alternative methods to kill.

	11-11-2004 23:21									#60
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quote: Originally posted by Father Beast I would get and saved. I then smashed open all the boxes and got some... Cameras?!?! What good are the cameras?

Ummm, take your picture with them and you'll find out. Heehee...