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laurentius is offline laurentius
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UPDATE:

I guess they decided that over 100 hours per package is a bit too much. This new one I recieved has 1.3 % done in just 12 minutes so, perhaps theres a limit to the size...

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I was way off on the 10-hour thing, my Athlon 64 just got a packet that it's 12 hours in, and 8% done.

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Our team has returned 16 results and generated 5,559 points as of the last update.

We're #55 in the world.

I returned 8 results, and generated 3,006 points at the update time.

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http://www.cnn.com/2004/TECH/11/17/...grid/index.html

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Log on to tackle global problems

(CNN) -- Anyone with a computer can now contribute to tackling some of the world's biggest humanitarian problems simply by leaving their machine logged on when not in use.

This week saw the launch in New York of the World Community Grid, an initiative which aims to take advantage of the under-used power of business and home computers by recruiting them to analyze data for medical, social and environmental research.

By accelerating the pace of that work, organizers say the World Community Grid could aid our understanding of the genetic codes that underlie diseases such as HIV and AIDS, Alzheimer's and cancer.

It could also contribute to creating more accurate models of the world's food and water supplies, climate change or the spread of pollution.

The project is based on grid computing technology, which joins together individual computers via the Internet to create a large system with computational power far in excess of the world's most powerful supercomputers.

With an estimated 650 million PCs in use around the world, the World Community Grid will initially be able to handle up to 10 million participants.

In order to take part, computer users simply need to download a program from www.worldcommunitygrid.org.

Then, whenever the computer is idle, the computer requests data from a World Community Grid server, performs computations and sends the results back to the server.

"World Community Grid represents a new model for philanthropic giving," said Linda Sanford, a senior vice president at IBM, which helped build the infrastructure and is also hosting and providing support for the grid.

"The grid demonstrates that government, business and society can be the direct beneficiary of innovation if we are willing to rethink the way innovation and science both develop and prosper."

Grid computing has already proved its effectiveness in shortening the timescale of vital research projects. Last year a grid of more than two million volunteers contributed to the analysis of 35 million drug molecules in the search for a treatment for smallpox. The study identified 44 potential treatments for the disease and cut analysis that would otherwise have taken more than a year to less than three months.

It is also being used by Climateprediction.net, a project led by the Oxford University e-Science Centre, which is seeking to predict how the climate will change in the next century.

The first research to benefit from the new research will be the Human Proteome Folding Project, launched by the Seattle-based Institute for Systems Biology to study the genetic structure of proteins that cause diseases such as malaria and tuberculosis.

"Now that the Human Genome has been sequenced, the next critical phase in genomics research is to do as much as we can to understand protein functions," said ISB lead scientist Dr. Rich Bonneau.

"This database of protein structures and possible functions will let us take those next steps in understanding how diseases that involve these proteins work."

The World Community Grid Advisory Committee said it would consider further proposals from leading research, public and not-for-profit organizations to conduct humanitarian research, with the intention of conducting five or six studies in the first year.

"The World Community Grid is an exciting new initiative brought about by IBM to conduct humanitarian research using grid technology," said Professor Paul Jeffreys of the Oxford University e-Science Centre, a member of the Advisory Committee.

"Following close collaboration with IBM on e-science, Oxford University signed a strategic partnership with IBM earlier this year and it is delighted to extend the partnership into a worldwide grid activity."

Asher is offline Asher
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Current team rankings:

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Asher is offline Asher
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Today's update:

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very interesting . . . . . .

Richelieu is offline Richelieu
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I wasn't online when they updated the stats. I guess that's why i still show up with only one...

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How do I join? (the group)

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Richelieu: The stats are updated online at midnight EST only.

Kuci: http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/t...mId=635XNJBR9N1

Click and join.

Asher is offline Asher
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I would love to help, but my 5 year old laptop is not up to task. Please, help me buy a new computer and thus help scientists unlock the secrets behind cancer, HIV/AIDS, SARS, etc. Please give generously.

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this looks like such a cool idea....

laurentius is offline laurentius
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I dont know whats wrong but the Rosetta-program but, seldom finished anything, just today I witnessed 3 situation where it started all over again after doing 27 and 10 %

Also I left the Rosetta on alone to my laptop for the weekend. Since I was away visiting my parents it had all the CPU cycles available. I come back and it has finished just one package...over 3 days!

IBM software

laurentius is offline laurentius
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Now i bought another laptop just yesterday and put it on it too, perhaps that works better since it has Athlon.

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I have to babysit the damned thing. I have finished 3 packets now, and each time they were finished I had to authorise the program's access to the internet. It seems they keep wanting to make minor adjustments to the program so zonealarm keeps warning that the program has changed. Due to me being afk for a few days, the damn program was just sitting there idle.

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Phew! My packet was some kind of SUPERPacket.. I mean what the hgell it took me like.. MANY hours . More than 24.. well it generated points pretty nicely too. Now I'm doing faster, so maybe I have more.. simple packet this time.

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I dont know whats wrong but the Rosetta-program but, seldom finished anything, just today I witnessed 3 situation where it started all over again after doing 27 and 10 %

Also I left the Rosetta on alone to my laptop for the weekend. Since I was away visiting my parents it had all the CPU cycles available. I come back and it has finished just one package...over 3 days!

IBM software

The client is the United Devices client which has been around for years.

Skanky: I use ZoneAlarm on both computers installed, and it hasn't asked repeatedly for internet access after the first time I OKed it. Further, the client's binary is unchanged for about a month now (well before it was launched officially).

Are you sure it's not a ZoneAlarm bug?

I don't know why you guys are seeing it start and stop packets repeatedly, both of mine have never done that. Do you guys have slower systems that it just "gives up" on for some reason?

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Now i bought another laptop just yesterday and put it on it too, perhaps that works better since it has Athlon.

I very very much doubt it, Athlon XPs are just as bad as Pentium 4s for heat.

What happened to your Dell laptop?

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BTW, this is from the support forums:

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A "work unit" consists of various data including the protein sequence. The longer the sequence the "harder" it is to predict the fold. Longer sequence proteins take longer to process (sometimes much longer).

Due to the nature of the work, it's impossible to predict how long any specific work unit may take. i.e. it's non-determinsitic. That's really the beauty of putting this on a grid: it's a difficult computation problem.

Sometimes a work unit may not "converge" as we call it. This means it just hasn't found any way to fold this specific protein in a given amount of time and gives up. When it determines it can't converge it just stops working on it, sends it back (telling us it didn't converge) and you get a new work unit. However, it will try very, very hard before it gives up.

This would explain why you saw it processing for probably 4 hours and still be at 0.0%...then suddenly you saw it go to 0.4% and the CPU time went down. Points-wise, you should still get credit for the effort though.

Have some faith in that you really are helping to promote our understanding of the human proteome. If this was easy to do, we wouldn't have put it on the grid!
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Rick Alther
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It's fun to watch each time it adds a new amino acid... sometimes the fold changes a lot.

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Nearly 51 hours and my first task is only at 49%.

Richelieu is offline Richelieu
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Nearly 51 hours and my first task is only at 49%.


I know the feeling : I'm at 43% of my current task after 39 hours.

Skanky Burns is offline Skanky Burns
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Skanky: I use ZoneAlarm on both computers installed, and it hasn't asked repeatedly for internet access after the first time I OKed it. Further, the client's binary is unchanged for about a month now (well before it was launched officially).

Are you sure it's not a ZoneAlarm bug?


Its possible, I've been changing the network recently. It hasn't done it again, so it seems that it may have been a user error. :shrug:

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Very interesting

I was unconvinced by SETI@home's cause, but I think I'll install WorldCommunityGrid as soon as I get an Internet connection. A firend of mine has Seti]home, I'll tell him to switch.

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18 asher? jeebus.

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And the last one took over 40 hours to do on the P3 3.2GHz w/ 1.5GB of RAM.

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Unfortunately, I'm going to have to shut down the P4 3.2 over the weekend, because they're cutting power to the building at work to do some upgrades and backup tests.

 
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