10-12-2004 23:13									#61
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You can't move STL around. They have to stay with SF, because of the rivalry. Moving NO and Atl was no big deal, because those teams always sucked.

	10-12-2004 23:45									#62
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Now is the time to get the Dallas-Washington thing realigned. Both teams suck, so what's the point?

If they could move Pittsbugh, Baltimore, and Cleveland for the merger, the game can survive this too.

Only problem is the Incredble Ego, Mr. Jerry Jones, who basically feels the game owes him whatever he wants, since he was instrumental in opening most of the larger revenue streams (negotiated the big network deals, showed the way on merchandising and luxury boxes) that all teams now enjoy.

The shame of it is that Dallas and Washington are pretty much automatic sellouts anyway, so there's no real reason for these false divisional alignments to continue.

Sadly, it won't happen. But I agree that it should.

	11-12-2004 00:44									#63
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How about:

Minnesota moves to LA, and joins NFC West
Colts go to NFC North
Cardinals go to AFC South.

That makes sense re-alignment wise, especially if the Vikings are moving to LA.

	11-12-2004 00:57									#64
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quote: Originally posted by Kalius How about : Minnesota moves to LA, and joins NFC West Colts go to NFC North Cardinals go to AFC South. That makes sense re-alignment wise, especially if the Vikings are moving to LA.

Would not work because LA doesnt give a damn about football. If they did they would have a team already...

And you mean Rams not Cardinals..

	11-12-2004 03:43									#65
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quote: Now is the time to get the Dallas-Washington thing realigned. Both teams suck, so what's the point?

Because it is still the biggest rivalry in NFL history. Green Bay-Chicago-Detroit may be older, but none have been as viscious.

quote: And you mean Rams not Cardinals..

Rams-Niners is a big time rivalry. No one has a rivalry with the Cards. They are free to move around.

	11-12-2004 03:50									#66
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quote: Would not work because LA doesnt give a damn about football. If they did they would have a team already...

And Red McCombs doesn't give a damn about Minny or football... he only cares about money, and that's why he's probably going to LA, as per the rumours.

And yes, I meant Cardinals. Rams have too big a rivalry, and as Imran said, no one cares about the Cards (except maybe the Rams, but if that were classified as a rivalry, it would be the weakest of the lot)/

	11-12-2004 12:44									#67
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quote: but none have been as viscious.

Why would a rivalry be sticky?

	11-12-2004 12:48									#68
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Umm viscious is right.

Viscous means sticky.

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	11-12-2004 12:53									#69
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You mean vicious?

	11-12-2004 12:55									#70
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No, I mean Sid Viscious.



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	11-12-2004 12:57									#71
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http://www.hotshotdigital.com/WellA...SidVicious.html

	12-12-2004 01:25									#72
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Most interesting playoff berth clinching scenario this week:

quote: As for clinching scenarios for New England, it can win the AFC East this week with a win against Cincinnati and a N.Y. Jets loss at Pittsburgh. The interesting twist there is that Pats fans might actually benefit more in the long run if they win and the Jets win, delaying the division crown clinching ceremony. That scenario would give New England a one-game advantage over Pittsburgh in their quest for home-field advantage throughout the playoffs. If the division title doesn't happen this week, New England can still earn a playoff berth this week with either a win or tie or any of the following occurring: a Baltimore loss or tie; a Denver loss or tie; or a Pittsburgh win or tie. What's that? Why the Pittsburgh win/tie scenario? Well ... this is where tiebreakers start to get fun. Bottom line is that the worst New England can do, assuming a loss this week, is 11-5. That's where you need to start figuring out clinching scenarios. Only seven teams can get to 11-5 in the AFC, thus you need to get rid of one of those seven teams' ability to best New England in any tiebreaker so that the Pats will secure one of six playoff spots. The Baltimore loss or tie does that and the Denver loss or tie does that. Assuming Baltimore and Denver win, can New England still clinch due to the fact they beat Baltimore head-to-head and have advantage in other tiebreaker categories? The answer is no, but ONLY because Baltimore can still win the AFC North by tying Pittsburgh at 11-5 and would have a sweep over the Steelers to get there and then Pittsburgh could edge out New England in wild card tiebreakers. How do you avoid that? By having Pittsburgh win or tie this week, you avoid the Baltimore division title scenario and New England would earn a playoff berth. For the curious, in the case of a three team Wild Card tie at 11-5 between New England, Baltimore and Denver, Denver would advance as the #5 seed due to better record among common opponents (4-1 vs. 3-2 for the other two) and then New England would be the #6 seed based on head-to-head win against Baltimore. Is that clear? Hang in there ... it only gets worse.

	12-12-2004 20:15									#73
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Bad day for football Tele.
I get
Giants vs. Ravens (blah) Bet $20 to return $40 on the Giants(+10). Just to make it interesting so I'll prolly lose.
Steeler vs. Jets (should be good)
Packers vs. Lions
Eagles vs. Redskins. My friends bailed on me this weekend, so I won't even stay up to watch it.

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	12-12-2004 21:23									#74
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Both Stl and Seattle could be 6-7 after this week.

	12-12-2004 22:38									#75
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Less than 1/2 hour until Kick Off... get those picks in and update those rosters...

ARE YOU READY FOR SOME FOOTBALL

	12-12-2004 23:21									#76
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quote: Originally posted by Moral Hazard Bad day for football Tele. I get Giants vs. Ravens (blah) Bet $20 to return $40 on the Giants(+10). Just to make it interesting so I'll prolly lose.

Yeah. You will lose. The Giants have a **** load of trouble against normal defenses.

	12-12-2004 23:35									#77
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Peyton has 2 TDs already (we are getting constant reports). He's got 46 on the year. 2 away from Marino's record.

	12-12-2004 23:40									#78
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And one to Harrison. He's 4 tds from matching Young/Rice.

	13-12-2004 00:16									#79
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After looking crappy early, the Falcons have gone up 14-3 over Oakland. Duckett has two TDs rushing.

	13-12-2004 00:19									#80
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Damn. Stokley doesn't seem to be in the game plan for Indy since Dallas Clark is back.

	13-12-2004 00:20									#81
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You shouldn't rely on one player making the big catches in Indy. They have 7 weapons for Peyton Manning on the offense .

	13-12-2004 00:26									#82
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Woo... Rod Coleman intercepts the ball and runs it back for a TD for Atlanta. I love seeing D-Linemen getting TDs .

	13-12-2004 00:37									#83
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Seahawks/Vikings is fun to watch.

Both teams are as soft on D as butter. Almost 300 yards before halftime.

	13-12-2004 00:41									#84
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui You shouldn't rely on one player making the big catches in Indy. They have 7 weapons for Peyton Manning on the offense .

Yeah. Clark seems to do well when Stokley doesn't, but I didn't know he was back. Wiggins, my TE, isn't doing anything today either. It's starting to look like a bad week for me going into the playoffs.

	13-12-2004 01:27									#85
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Duckett scores his 4th TD of the day . Who's got him in Fantasy?

Oh, Atlanta is up 35-3. Looks like they wanted to make a statement this week.

	13-12-2004 01:29									#86
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They should have made it last week. But no, they make it against the Radiers.

So their statement is :"If you're a crappy team, we'll beat you badly."

Big Deal.

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	13-12-2004 01:41									#87
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At least that's better than Oakland's statement.

	13-12-2004 01:47									#88
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Oakland's statement is : "Yeah, we suck. See?"

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	13-12-2004 02:02									#89
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They beat down Denver badly... are they a crappy team?

10-3 and clinched a playoff spot. Very nice for Mora's first year.

	13-12-2004 02:05									#90
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How do you describe a relationship with an NFL team you like and hate at the same time? Dysfunctional, that's how. The Vikings sure know how to give their fans headaches and how to shoot themselves in the gut.

And what's this about the Vikings going to Los Angeles?

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