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Jan 2003
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Played it when it first game out. Had fallen into disuse, then decided to try searching the web about two years ago and discovered Apolyton. Tried out the new strategies, then went for PBEM. That gets to be a real challenge.

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enjoy, play, etc.

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SMAC/X have a permanment home on my hard drive, suffice to say.

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Oct 2001
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Originally posted by muskelmichi
High People!

I'm new to this Forum (not to some of your great advices or vel's guide) and a HUGE Smac/x fan. I've been playing for years now, with a few breaks between but continuing. I'm just wondering how many people still enjoy/play it.

Can someone tell me whether you're still finding out more about this game or is most (or ALL) of the game mechanics already written here?

Answers?


Yes I still play- the hard work and intelligence and creativity put into making SMAC/SMAX paid off, at least in terms of interest from its devotees.


I can't think of any other game (even CIV II) which has ever enthralled me with the charm, frustration and zest to play just one more turn, the way that SMAC/X does.


And yes, every few months someone comes up with something new and delightful on the boards, either a discussion point, or something in the game itself.

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Dec 2004
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thanx you guys!
I've had expected 2 or 3 answers, but hey!
I'm just glad SMAC still rocks the flippediefloppedieflew!

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May 2004
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I play both SMAC/X and Civ3. When I compare both games, definitely SMAC wins. Some mods for Civ3 might somehow get closer to SMAC level, but I haven't seen any yet. The main problem with Civ3 is diplomacy and spying. Also lack of customizable units. After SMAC this genre should have always customizable units. And I do not think it is something which cannot be done.

Only one game can make me stop playing SMAC/X - SMAC2


customizable units in civ3 how would u do that?
a unit armed with an axe and a kevlar suit as defence?
and a unit with wheels, a cannon and a leather armor as offence?

interesting but not doable I think

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Sep 2002
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customizable units in civ3 how would u do that?
a unit armed with an axe and a kevlar suit as defence?
and a unit with wheels, a cannon and a leather armor as offence?

interesting but not doable I think

It's just a question of creativity. I think that if you put enough effort to design such system it would work very well. It would not be probably a simple matter.

I observed that civ3 is an attempt to be very true to history of earth. Still players are welcomed to make their own units and include them in scenarios, so if someone wants to have a modern armor armored with leather plates he/she can do it. Many people though would not like to play such scenario, I guess. Lack of customizable units thus is in my view preventing players from designing weird ones.

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customizable units in civ3 how would u do that?


The same way they do it in SMAC of course.

quote:
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a unit armed with an axe and a kevlar suit as defence?
and a unit with wheels, a cannon and a leather armor as offence?


And why not? What prevents a person from doning a kevlar vest and wielding an axe? Is it terribly pratical? No. But that level of freedom needs to be there to have a game with this kind of lasting power. In SMAC you can build a 5-12-3 hovertank. It isn't a very practical design, but that is for the player to decide, not the designer.

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May 2003
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I definitly still play single and multiplayer. AC is perhaps the best game of all time which is why when it came out it recieved a rating of 96 or so from pc gamer which I think is still one of the top five ratings they have ever given a game. (the others being given to civ 2 and 3 and half live one and two I believe). What makes it so much fun for me is something that hasn't been mentioned here yet. It is civ with a story! The sci-fi elements of a living planet and people merging with it are incredible and add such a dimension to the game. I still get shivers down my spine when I remember the first time I read the interlude where one of my scientists was telling me the fungus was conscious. Man!

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Course we still play.. but we´re a little ashamed of?

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Jul 2004
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Got that damn Planetary pack four years ago, and ever since I have had an bad habit to hit Start->Firaxis games etc and start a new game knowing i shouldn't (costs to much needed sleep). Well, a bottle of wine, a pack of cigarettes and your brain challenged - what could be better ?

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The same way they do it in SMAC of course.



And why not? What prevents a person from doning a kevlar vest and wielding an axe? Is it terribly pratical? No. But that level of freedom needs to be there to have a game with this kind of lasting power. In SMAC you can build a 5-12-3 hovertank. It isn't a very practical design, but that is for the player to decide, not the designer.


I love unit design. My only complaint about SMAC is some of the unit weapons and such are so sci-fi-ish that's hard to relate to them visually.

I would love to have the ability to have customized unit in modern times in Civ games. Especially with regards to tanks. At least have the option to go for swifter less armoured tanks vs. heavier/slower tanks with stronger guns. Also I think aircraft could have some different options for them as well.

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Sep 2002
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Maybe Firaxis is already doing it in Civ4? So they could visit SMAC/X forum for players' requests. Has this been proposed in ci4 ideas?

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Sep 2003
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Still playing - I second the notion that it's the first game to go back on after a reformat.

I do play Civ III as well, but keep coming back to SMAC (I was very disappointed with SMAX) for its combination of strategy, story and personality. I love the nonlinearity of SMAC - the ability to transcend, or dominate militarily, politically, or economically, and play each game in a very different way.

Even with different civilisations having different traits and UUs, Civ III has not achieved anything like the difference that you feel playing the different SMAC factions.

I'd love to play MP but have never had the chance.

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Hey geniemalin if you want to start a pbem game I'll play you! Let me know.

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I bounce between SMAC, SMAX, GalCiv and GalCiv Altarain Prophecy

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I'd play AC, but my cd got injured and I can't.

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Jul 2002
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Smax and AoK - conquerors. Strategy defined.

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I would love to have the ability to have customized unit in modern times in Civ games. Especially with regards to tanks. At least have the option to go for swifter less armoured tanks vs. heavier/slower tanks with stronger guns. Also I think aircraft could have some different options for them as well.


There was a Civ II modpack that came out shortly after its release that had a few interesting additions to units:

Zeppelin, SFl, 1, 4.,6, 0a,1d, 1h,1f, 4,0, 0, Cmb, 000000000000001
Biplane, Rad, 1, 6.,1, 3a,1d, 2h,2f, 6,0, 3, Fli, 000000000010001
Dive Bomber, Sth, 1, 8.,1, 8a,1d, 2h,2f, 8,0, 0, Rad, 000000000000001
Storm Trooper, nil, 0, 1.,0, 8a,6d, 1h,1f, 10,0, 0, U1, 000001101000111
Heavy Armor, nil, 0, 3.,0, 12a,6d, 4h,2f, 10,0, 0, U3, 000000000000000

(Admittedly they were predesigned units, and not customizeable like SMAC, but still added gameplay value to that classic)

It also replaced fundy with fascism as a government choice (I believe that it was called the "Fascism Mod")

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I'd play AC, but my cd got injured and I can't.


If the game is still on your harddrive, you can download the nocd crack that lets you play without the CD. I'd venture to suggest that the majority of us do that.

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It;s impossible.
I've changed computer since I've played the game last time.
But I'll buy the new (used) cd, with 4 other games, for 15 zl only, which is sth like 4 dollars.

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Feb 2003
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Agreed with Alex and Lazerus!

How many times i wanted to answer on this great forum for last few years.. Mostly reading something encouraging about my beloved Morganites faction from CEO Aaron (respect to him) .

And now, after this years of playing (last two years SMAC is only game i play), after creating my tiny Russian SMAC community, i want to say: SMAC is unique. Not only as TBS game of great copmlexity, but, not less important for me, as product of estatic qualities i never seen before and after it's release. When i have read "jorney to Centauri" i was so pleased with deepness of psychological insight with which author tells the game story! It's like a good theatrical performance!

Hailz from Russian SMAC players!

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When you can get the Americans, Russians, and Chinese to all agree on the same thing, it has to be good...

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When i have read "jorney to Centauri" i was so pleased with deepness of psychological insight with which author tells the game story! It's like a good theatrical performance!


I was clearing out the attic the other day and guess what? I found my old printouts of the story posted on the SMAC site before the game was released. It was such a perfect way to get people excited about the game. By the time it came out and I played it, I knew exactly what had happened on the way to AC.

Brilliant!

And to answer the question. I seem to come back to it. I don't play it for months. Then I re-install it and I'm off. Then no AC for months. But I keep going back to it.

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I am new to this forum... as a fan of CIV I and II, I was somewhat disappointed with CIV III so I play Alpha Centauri/Alien Crossfire more than the CIV serie. It's very unfortunate the good player interface introduced in SMAC was no inspiration for CIV III.

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SMAC/X have a permanment home on my hard drive, suffice to say.


QFT, as they say, & been that way since 1999. I've hundreds of games & this is the only addiction in the mix. If I could have only one game, this would definitely be the one. I always have at least six single player games in process.

Still playing? I don't know how to quit.

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Googlie, was that the "Fantasic Worlds" add on? The CD that had the Master of Magic Jr. and the Dinosuar conversions?

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I play SMAX daily as MP, and specifically role-playing multiplayer. Currently I have 2 role playing MP games going. (Googlie set up one of them for 3 humans vs 4 pacted AIs – we may be doomed, but Googs won’t tell. Is it a bad sign when he cackles maniacally?) Normally the MP games last a quarter to half a year at a turn a day, but when I’m on a roll I can get three or four MP turns done a day, on weekends at least. Right now I am on PBEM #12. Most of these have been posted in the SMAX Fiction forum, but I’ve been more delinquent than usual getting my butt in gear to update the threads.

Occasionally I dive back into SP on a lark or to experiment, particularly with factions that play differently than I am used to playing.

The only thing that would get met to stop playing SMAX is (as already mentioned) SMAX2. That assumes, of course, they do a good job of it, which would probably require BR to lead the show.

Hydro

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