11-01-2005 23:59									#61
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I think a link at the top to a list and the details is the way forward.

	12-01-2005 01:50									#62
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we'll do a civgroup (somebody send me an icon) and darcloud will add people on it as well be able to post related news

	12-01-2005 02:11									#63
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But not one single place to have the voting threads, but spread like today, is that correct?

	12-01-2005 18:32									#64
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I personally think the voting should be spread throughout the forums as it has been done in the past. The current method has produced a new record of votes in each new election.

The actual HOF listings should have some permanent place on the site, but not be a forum

	12-01-2005 20:42									#65
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Yes, a new forum only means one thing.

	13-01-2005 00:03									#66
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Lots of well thought out content packed posts?

	13-01-2005 00:33									#67
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quote: Originally posted by DrSpike Lots of well thought out content packed posts?

Exhibit A.

	13-01-2005 01:30									#68
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Well, personally, I'd be against a separate forum for the Hall of Fame because of the very forum section that Nikolai brings up- the Dinosaur forum- a forum that was only visited by spammers in its latter days.

The only way a forum of that sort could work is if only one person was authorized to create threads and the old threads were locked as archived threads are currently.

That way people could still view historical hall threads, but wouldn't be able to spam in them

And believe me when I say that there's a lot of historical things that have happened related to the hall in the past- lost of famous arguments/flamewars, etc. that would possibly be best forgotten, but which are interesting, to say the least.

quote: The actual HOF listings should have some permanent place on the site, but not be a forum

Once again, I continue to support this!

Markos

quote: we'll do a civgroup (somebody send me an icon) and darcloud will add people on it as well be able to post related news

Thanks! Just tell me when you want me to start adding people and give me all the related links so that I may do so and I'll get started.

It would be a great boon to be able to actually announce the hall's upcoming elections!

	13-01-2005 05:16									#69
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I support the non-forum HOF listings. Permanent is better and is also spam-proof.

	13-01-2005 05:26									#70
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so will it be in the community now?

or remain OT?

	13-01-2005 07:32									#71
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That remains to be decided. I'm thinking that I may still end up posting it everywhere- but we'll see.

	13-01-2005 17:37									#72
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quote: Originally posted by DarkCloud I'm thinking that I may still end up posting it everywhere- but we'll see.

As Ming has pointed out, the extra exposure has cetainly helped the vote totals.

	13-01-2005 18:04									#73
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It will still need to be posted in multiple forums to insure visibility. While the actual voting could be directed toward a single place to make keeping track easier, threads need to be started in the key forums to maximize participation. Just posting a site wide announcement isn't enough. Many people ignore them. Actual threads gets people's attention.

	13-01-2005 20:03									#74
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quote: Originally posted by Ming It will still need to be posted in multiple forums to insure visibility. While the actual voting could be directed toward a single place to make keeping track easier, threads need to be started in the key forums to maximize participation. Just posting a site wide announcement isn't enough. Many people ignore them. Actual threads gets people's attention.

Topped, Locked, and with a link to the voting thread? I always thought this would be the best way.

	13-01-2005 22:47									#75
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Hmmm... As much as I would enjoy not having to check multiple threads in different areas of the site- it might be necessary to allow people to vote in at least two areas, if not all.

The reason I state this (as much as I dislike stating it) is that in forums where the thread doesn't receive many posts- the thread was ignored (newbie posters didn't know what the hall of fame was and saw that not may people were posting to it, so they didn't post to it). Also, I don't think that people actually notice the topped threads that much.

Also, by posting it in specific sections of the site- this allows interest groups to bring in allies (examples: the alpha centauri section's coordination of googlie's election- it was easier to gather support in the AC sections themselves in more manageable threads where newbies could read things and the spanish section where the coordination was done in spanish and all member could see what others had voted...and also, if you notice- posters get 'cluster votes.' 5 people in a row will vote for the same poster... and then the next 5 for someone else.) As for whether this is a good thing or not- the dispersion of voting locales apparently helped gather support for a diverse range of candidates.

I leave it open to Ming and others to make the final suggestion on this matter.

However, site load times here have vastly improved- so it is much more feasable for me to manage the vote nowaday than two years ago.

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However, topping it (or an announcement leading to it) in the OT is a necessity because of the rapid rate in which threads sink.

The reason I state this is that rah's experimental topping of it in the RoN or MOO forums two election cycles ago garnered 0 voters from those sections, If I remember correctly.

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therefore, to clarify things, I suppose my suggestion is this:

1. Site-Wide Announcement (that acts as a topped thread in ALL forums providing a link to one of two voting threads): One in Apolyton: Community (which is topped) and one in the Off-Topic (which is topped)

2. Threads which link to the voting threads, but in which no voting should take place. But in which votes can be gathered if someone misposts.
OR
2b. Threads which link to the main voting threads, but where voting takes place as well.

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Note: This might be overkill, but not having voting threads in more than one place could invite problems as well, as ming states.

I would like to just hold it in one place and have an announcment, but figure that turnout will be lower if that's all that's done.

What does everyone else think?

	14-01-2005 00:03									#76
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Sounds fine as long as there is something in each forum to show voting is happening, with links.

	15-01-2005 07:11									#77
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Sounds good to me

	15-01-2005 10:33									#78
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So- just wondering, any volunteers to make the icon? I'm not very good with them and don't have any high-end graphics software that I can use well.

	15-01-2005 11:25									#79
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Start a design thread/competiton.

	15-01-2005 18:28									#80
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ahh a competition should bring out some great icons indeed

	16-01-2005 02:58									#81
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Started a thread here: http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...threadid=128199

	17-01-2005 22:42									#82
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But have few suggestions- only one that uses a preexisting smiley- now it is a pretty good idea, but still, there has to be something better.

	23-01-2005 05:05									#83
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In this new era of openness, I thought , can we have a hustings or supporters area.

Kassiopeia did a great promotional job for Googlie (well deserved) and well done Kassi. But there were other candidates, that if I or others had known more about their contribution to 'poly' I might have considered (and might consider next time round).

Also there are quite a number of OT posters who enrich the community with their wit and deserve recognition. Well somebody tell me about them rather than just a blank vote.

	23-01-2005 05:46									#84
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Well, as you mention Hercules, the only way for other people's accomplishments to be noted (if they aren't already in the hall) is if other people elaborate the reasons for which they are voting for someone.

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that being said- is anyone at work on a civgroup icon?

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I have already completed a small revamping of the list that will be avaliable either next election, or if there does come to be a permanent location for the Hall itself.
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	23-01-2005 06:01									#85
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quote: Originally posted by DarkCloud that being said- is anyone at work on a civgroup icon?

I can put together a bunch of them, but I'm having trouble with a theme. What should it say? What color? A border?

	23-01-2005 06:08									#86
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Should the icon be named, like "Oscar" or "Emmy". Should we call ours "Poly" and have it be the silouette of a lovely lady?

	23-01-2005 06:28									#87
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Possible backgrounds and inserts:

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	23-01-2005 23:38									#88
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The 'poly That's a pretty good idea

I made some comments on your work in the OT thread, but another idea just came to me now: combining the A, the red background and the world so as to symbolize Apolyton and the hall's international nature.

Hmm... for concept, I suppose I wanted the designers to figure out one on their own, but personally I envisoend the ting to be clean, minimialistic in design but very obvious in the message that it conveyed-

Perhaps, (and this is only an idea) something synthesizing both the "A" of Apolyton and the HoF letters- though I do worry about the thing being too wordy. The idea of a trophy (as per ixnay's suggestion) or the 'Poly (sort of made to look like oscar or the lady holding up the golden globe) would also be appropriate ideas.

What does everyone else think?

And thanks again, Harry for your many combination suggestions.

	24-01-2005 01:10									#89
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Ok, per your ideas:

From right to left -

"A" with "HOF" on Earth on Red background

"A" on Earth on Red background

"A" with "HOF" on Earth on Red background with black background for parts of "HOF" to make it stand out more.

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	24-01-2005 06:52									#90
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quote: Originally posted by Harry Tuttle "A" with "HOF" on Earth on Red background with black background for parts of "HOF" to make it stand out more.