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Sava is offline Sava
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Mar 2001
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No, it's polite to say thank you and not get insulted by something so meaningless, what is not meant as an insult. Tight up people.
of course it's not meant as an insult... that's why it's considered IGNORANT. Because people don't realize they might be insulting someone.

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Feb 2002
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And hey if some people want to say happy holidays, so what, good for them. Let them say that. But if they say that because of the pressure .. if they genuinely just want to say that then it's just fine..

I don't understand why at the same time santa claus is everywhere then. It's like a double standard right there. We can do what ever we want, except don't say that word, it might insult someone. Why would someone get insulted by that anyway? We say all these different cultures and religions are richness, right? So why can't Christians celebrate christmas in their way without someone getting their panties in a twist? In fact, I've never heard anyone complainign about this, except christians themselves, who want to be all PC and tolerant. We manage to be tolerant on every other celebration, int he name of rich cultures and diversity, yet not to this one? I just don't see anyone insulted by this whole sentence. It doesn't mean anything bad. If someone really is insutled by it, it's their problem of tolerance, because it's not meant to be an insult of any kind, it's wishing someone a good day on this particular day.

If some scifi dudes come and say 'happy cirius day!1' on 27th of March, I won't be insulted and who in their right minds would be?

Yes it's a question of tolerance, but we're taking it to the wrong end! It's the OTHER people that need to tolerate us a little better. I don't see anyone else giving up on their party traditions.

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No it is absolutely NOT ignorant. When you say it's ignorant, it makes the one who says it some kind of insulting guy.

THis is our tradition, the christian tradition. We have the right to do it, it's not outright insultive and if some people get insulted, they need to grow the **** up and start respecting other cultures as well, because we sure hell do that. It's THEM who are ignorants, adn you're only fuelign their attitudes.

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Mar 2002
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  Old Post 25-12-2004 01:36
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Sava, it is completely and utterly ridiculous to be insulted by something that is not meant as an insult.

The phrase "Merry Christmas" is just used as a friendly holiday greeting, just like "Happy Holidays." Now when you figure out how a friendly holiday greeting can be offensive, come and talk to me. Until then. . .

























MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!

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Apr 2002
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  Old Post 25-12-2004 01:36
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peace and happiness and all that


and try to keep that bloodpressure down. All that food in the coming days is enough for your heart to stomach...

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  Old Post 25-12-2004 01:40
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I think the whole point of understanding other cultures and ways of life is to appreciate them and not trying to homogenise everything into one big ball of boringness. LIke I said, it goes all ways, the tolerance thing. And becacuse of the context of the whole thing is not a negative one, or insult, it's the others who need to learn to tolerate that. We need to tolerate others, and others need to tolerate us, the way we are and the way they are. To not tolerate us or christians in this little matter is just lkie saying screw with the others.

Homogenising

That's something Hitler wanted!

Pekka is offline Pekka
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This would be the ideal way of doing it IMO, that if I meet, for example a jewish person, I would say to that person happy hanukah.. that's what I' dmost likely say, and if that person is a player, he/she would say to me merry christmas. That's appreciating the other one. Or I can say merry christmas and he/she says happy hanukah back to me. Someone wants to say happy holidays to me, I'll most likely say happy holiday back. I expect that person to be self aware atheist.

Ming is offline Ming
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Take your discussion about hitler and other such crap somewhere else. The is a wishing you a Merry Christmas or Happy Holidays thread... If you want to be a jerk about it... I can make sure you aren't a problem until the holidays over...

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Jun 2002
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This would be the ideal way of doing it IMO, that if I meet, for example a jewish person, I would say to that person happy hanukah.. that's what I' dmost likely say, and if that person is a player, he/she would say to me merry christmas. That's appreciating the other one. Or I can say merry christmas and he/she says happy hanukah back to me. Someone wants to say happy holidays to me, I'll most likely say happy holiday back. I expect that person to be self aware atheist.


I agree.

Zkribbler is offline Zkribbler
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Feb 1999
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  Old Post 25-12-2004 02:26
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Whether you celebrate Saturnia, Chanukah, Christman, Xmas, Kwanzaa, Festivus, or something else, this holiday season is a time to remember that humanity is all one family.

Peace on Earth, everyone, and good will to all.

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Whether you celebrate Saturnia, Chanukah, Christman, Xmas, Kwanzaa, Festivus, or something else, this holiday season is a time to remember that humanity is all one family.

Peace on Earth, everyone, and good will to all.



Brtndr4u is offline Brtndr4u
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Jun 2000
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  Old Post 25-12-2004 03:31
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BAH HUMBUG!!!!!!!!!!!

but have good credit card debt anyhow.

I DO !!!!!!

My fault for having too many kids and grandkids,not counting the ex'es(love em all still)

Merry Chistmas

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Oct 2002
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  Old Post 25-12-2004 03:34
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merry

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Sep 2000
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Happy holidays and best wishes to all, regardless of what you celebrate.

And some people need to relax a bit, I am Jewish and don't have a problem with saying or hearing Happy Christmas, and I don't see why anyone should.

Giancarlo is offline Giancarlo
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Gah.

Okay. Happy holidays. Seeing that someone deleted my last message. I can't say Merry christmas since I'm atheist.

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MERRY CHRISMAHANAKWANZAKAH

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Oct 2000
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  Old Post 25-12-2004 05:07
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OH and, Merry Christmas to all and I hope everyones entire holidays are great.

cheer up che. sorry for all the problems.

Combat Ingrid is offline Combat Ingrid
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Nov 2001
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  Old Post 25-12-2004 05:13
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Just dropping in again to say Merry Christmas!

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Mar 2002
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  Old Post 25-12-2004 06:36
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Jun 2000
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Merry Christmas, everyone.

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In less than two hours, I leave for a nice Christmas Eve service at an Episcopalian church.

Theben is offline Theben
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Jan 1970
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  Old Post 25-12-2004 07:58
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Under the circumstances, I'll follow panag's lead:



have a nice day

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Jun 2000
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  Old Post 25-12-2004 08:17
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and for the record, I wish all those who celebrate it a Merry CHRISTmas... and to everyone else a happy holiday season and happy new year


The name for this holiday season is Christmas, whether they celebrate it or not.

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Feb 2001
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0:46... Christmas is kind of sad sometimes...

anyway I hope everyone have a great day

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I don't know what you all are *****ing about. And I don't know why you're all taking part in this thread.

Christmas isn't here yet.

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Your dancing cow is great.

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Oh well, Merry Christmas for now just in case my internet goes out tomorrow like it has been doing all this week.

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Well, today we had a very good day - both Laura and I are so excited about Christmas this year that we both woke up before 5:00... on a day off!

I got online (code for "I logged onto Apolyton"), and then woke Sophie up around 7:45 - OMG, did that kid stink!

I cleaned her up and put her in the bath immediately, which was a good way to start the day (Sophie loves her baths). Got out, got dressed and then I combed her hair, getting all the chocolate/cheese/food/dog saliva-induced tangles out of her hair - success! No crying!

We then went to the mall, met my brother and got in line for Santa. We had already seen Santa, but Sophie was very insistant on seeing him again before Christmas. The four of us stood in line for only 20-30 minutes, and when our turn came, Sophie went up to him and fulfilled her mandate - she told him that she wanted the whack-a-mole and the jungle gym. "I love you Santa" Sophie gave him a kiss and jumped down, "bye-bye."

We then went to eat and then to a replay of The Incredibles. Best Character is easily the fashion designer - "I don't dwell on the past for it detracts from the present!" Sophie was riveted. However, she was pretty wild when we went to the arcade beforehand, and she played a few games and had to wait watching Daddy play some others. My brother won her a My Pretty Pony, which has the complete attention of my daughters heart for about, oh, another 8 hours... and then it'll be forgotten, except as a subset of "That Which is MINE!"

Wait...

Santa just came by, and did Sophie get a haul!

Whack a Mole

Jungle Gym. The wood is apparently arriving on Sunday, Santa said.

The Wizard of Oz, as a stocking stuffer (so I peeked - deal with it).

Anyway, when we got done with the movies and the arcade we left the mall so Dad could cook the turkey.

And that was our Christmas dinner. We didn't do mashed potatos, stuffing, pies, or stuff like that. We cooked a turkey, a bit of broccoli, and some canned cranberries.

Later we went out around the neighborhoods and looked at Christmas decorations, including the Dueling Electric Bills, neighbors trying to beat each other in ostentatiousness of display. I'll grab my digital camera and go out tomorrow night and take some pics of these works of "art".

Sophie put out cookies and carrots for Santa Claus and his reindeer, which they enjoyed while they were here. There'll be pictures tomorrow of Sophie opening her presents, plus, to add to the drama...

We're visiting my sisters tomorrow for food and presents... and my parents are going to be there!

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Ok, now I can say it -

MERRY CHRISTMAS!

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Merry Christmas!

 
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