06-01-1999 10:29									#31
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Just read on cdmag.com that Reynolds is considering changing the unit graphics to 2d sprites to clean up the appearance and fuzziness since people have apparently been complaining a LOT!. He suggested it may be a patch for later.

	06-01-1999 11:00									#32
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1) I don't care about the box.

2) How can you say SMAC as better AI, there is no proof of that yet since the games are not out but even it turn out it as, it will not be for long because CtP AI is wide open to everibody with all of it's API call. In 6 months from now when SMAC players will have understand the holes in SMAC AI (there is always some) there will be new and improve AI for CtP coming all of the time. This is one area where SMAC can't compete.

3) I will rename the Eco Ranger -> Genesis Device wich would have been it's name all along if it didn't belong to Star Trek. For those who do not like Star Trek, you can play a game without.

4) About everything in CtP is customizable !! so I don't understand this one.

5) More replayable?? Civ II was replayable and CtP add a lot to what Civ II had. I will probably end up with hundreds of scenarios and thousands of units on my PC a few years from now. I could very well be playing the game for the next 5 or more years.

6) I don't know what SMAC offer on this but i do know i will be playing CtP on the internet. They have added a ton of settings for time control that i wich MGE had.

7) and I don't care about the box....

With CtP my only limitations are past and future history and my imagination.

	06-01-1999 17:56									#33
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Jeez, Apocalypse, wanna start a flame war again? Unless you work for both Firaxis and Activision, and have knowledge privy only to you, it is impossible to say what you did. Save it for the releease dates.

	07-01-1999 03:57									#34
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I agree Robi.
I have personally decided against SMAC.
It is up to CTP now.

	07-01-1999 07:17									#35
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>1) I don't care about the box.

I'm a box collector so I do

>2) How can you say SMAC as better AI, there is no proof of that yet since the games are not out but even it turn out it as, it will not be for long because CtP AI is wide open to everibody with all of it's API call. In 6 months from now when SMAC players will have understand the holes in SMAC AI (there is always some) there will be new and improve AI for CtP coming all of the time. This is one area where SMAC can't compete.

I've played the SMAC demo and have had long conversations with people who work with Activision about CTP's AI.


>3) I will rename the Eco Ranger -> Genesis Device wich would have been it's name all along if it didn't belong to Star Trek. For those who do not like Star Trek, you can play a game without.

The idea and consept still sucks though


>4) About everything in CtP is customizable !! so I don't understand this one.

Well everything in SMAC is customizable, including the units.

>5) More replayable?? Civ II was replayable and CtP add a lot to what Civ II had. I will probably end up with hundreds of scenarios and thousands of units on my PC a few years from now. I could very well be playing the game for the next 5 or more years.

Well SMAC is more customizable

>6) I don't know what SMAC offer on this but i do know i will be playing CtP on the internet. They have added a ton of settings for time control that i wich MGE had.

SMAC can be both Turn based and morore of that multiple moves at one time thing, don't feel like explaining it

7) and I don't care about the box

Again, I do :

	08-01-1999 04:14									#36
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They were going to rename the Park Ranger to Genesis device, but they thought that there might be copyright problems with Star Trek. I propose that we should all change the name to Genesis device as soon as we get the game, since that was its intended name.

Apocalypse, your arguments are pretty weak. If you truely believe those things, then you're going to have to back them up.

Why do you say that SMAC is more customizable, for instance? In C:CTP you can rewrite the entire AI, change all the graphics, and all the stats if you want. What does SMAC have that is more customizable than that? Maybe I'm missing something, but in SMAC, I couldn't even find the file that stored unit graphics.

And how do you know that SMAC has better multiplayer? Unless I'm missing a major source, Activision has said very little about multiplayer, but assures us that it has been built as a multiplayer game from the start.

Why do you say that the Eco Ranger concept sucks?

If you've had discussions with Activision about the AI in C:CTP, would you mind divulging what it was that they said that made you think it had poor AI?

	08-01-1999 04:18									#37
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Apocalypse -

what do you do when they ask for the upc code on the box for the mail in rebates? Do you just say screw the rebate...i want the box in perfect condition or do you say...hell...its worth 10 or 20 bucks to cut it up...

just curious

	09-01-1999 05:27									#38
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I'd cut it if the game box sucks. If it is a good box, I'd ask if they can send me a new box if I send the UPC in or I ask if just the recipt would work.

	09-01-1999 06:52									#39
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Apocalypse, out of genuine curiousity...how many game boxes do you have? What games? Do you go out of your way for boxes or do you just keep the boxes of games you buy?

	10-01-1999 02:14									#40
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Over 30 game boxes, many different games (mainly games from Sid Meier or Wing Commander games though), and I have bought games just for the box (my autographed WC2 box and autographed The Dig box). It is just a hobbie I have.

	10-01-1999 10:32									#41
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yes, yes, yes, all very fine points, but what of ToT? how does that fit into the mix?


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	11-01-1999 04:00									#42
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What's ToT?
A new explosive or a new drink?

Sorry, couldn't resist it.

	14-02-2001 01:30									#43
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I go for SMAC

CTP sucks because of static units and government model, whereas SMAC provides a unit creator and SE

	14-02-2001 08:02									#44
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Andz,

Are you really that bored? Look at how old that thread was!

	14-02-2001 20:21									#45
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Does that really matter, you elitist American?

	21-02-2001 03:41									#46
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Despite it's age, I found the thread to be an interesting read nonetheless.