14-01-2005 21:19									#31
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quote: Originally posted by General Ludd Anyways, I also had a question. How the **** do you kill elephants? I've usually played as the Julii or Gauls so I haven't really run into them before, but now that I'm up against Carthage, I'm starting to encounter them. Where I've run into the biggest problem is in trying to siege a town that has elephants in the garrison. They can't be scared off because they just stand in the town center. I had three full groups of velites and a bunch of Pricipes and Hastati unload all of their javelins and not kill a single elephant! When that failed, I sent my Triarii up to engage them in melee, and unsurprisingly the elephants made short work of them. After breaking down the walls, and fighting my way through spearmen and cavalry my entire army of more then 1000 men was annihilated by two dozen elephants. Pretty ridiculous.

Never had that (elephants sitting on the forum).
Most elephants I meet are on the field or - in case of siege - in the streets. I try to finish them with my cavalry before they rally.
Same with chariots.

If I had to deal with such a situation, I'd send spearmen in phallanx formation (mercenaries if you're roman). Beside other elephants they are, to my experience, the less bad elephant/chariot close-combat killers.

	14-01-2005 22:35									#32
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this is the greatest strategy game evar!

	15-01-2005 03:37									#33
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quote: Originally posted by Sava this is the greatest strategy game evar!

QFT

Well, at least its in the top 3 or 4. I'd certainly put it up there with MoO2, SMAC and Civ2... oh hell and MoM... oh and...

Its probably the best RTS game with a TBS element ever

-Jam

	15-01-2005 05:36									#34
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Certainly sounds good. How long's it been out?

	15-01-2005 07:40									#35
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Couple of months - still at premium price and in the "game charts"

	15-01-2005 19:09									#36
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Rome Total Realism 5.0 comes out today!

http://www.rometotalrealism.com/

	16-01-2005 02:48									#37
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Oh, ATTENTION!

New series of Time Commanders starts tommorrow, Sunday at 1915 on BBC2.

Its Romans vs Germans in the old Teutonburger Wald

Sorry those that can't see UK TV tomorrow. This show rocks.

-Jam

	16-01-2005 03:47									#38
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A NEW series of Time Commanders? Wow! But I thought they already had Teutoburg Forest in series one? Must recall incorrectly, then.

	16-01-2005 04:54									#39
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What's the point of time commanders now that the game is released?

	16-01-2005 05:33									#40
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Erm... to watch people playing R:TW on the TV??

-Jam

	16-01-2005 06:55									#41
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It would be fun to be able to download and play through the battles they show in the series.

	16-01-2005 08:23									#42
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Rome: Total Realism v5.0 has been released. Enjoy...

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/inde...showtopic=19298

	18-01-2005 03:58									#43
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Anyone interested in playing a few MP battles should email or PM me. This game really shines in MP, and seems to have quite a mature (for an online game) community playing

-Jam

	18-01-2005 19:54									#44
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Isn't MP battle yet another clickfest?

	18-01-2005 22:38									#45
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Not really. The slowish pace of the game means there's actually time to chat as the armies close, and the community seems pretty mature compared with most online games. No "STFU n00b ur PWND" or any of that crap. More in the way of "Oh the Gods will be angry that you killed my general!" or "Hey! This is just like the battle of *** in ***BC!"

-Jam

	18-01-2005 23:00									#46
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I must say that I find the battlefield completely overwhelming, and I can't fight an enemy without the regular 'pauses'

I'm still fighting pre-'Marcus', as I'm still in my second campaign (the first one being a short one)

	19-01-2005 00:33									#47
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quote: Originally posted by Jamski Anyone interested in playing a few MP battles should email or PM me. This game really shines in MP, and seems to have quite a mature (for an online game) community playing -Jam

The earlier STW MP was pure gold. MTW was too dumbed down, with all the cool non standard RTS elements toned down. I might check out RTW MP if it is more like STW.

	22-01-2005 13:17									#48
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Two questions:

How do I get rid of 'squalor' in my cities?.

and

Is the ability to bribe rebels related to the difficulty level? In my first campaign (medium difficulty) they could be persuaded to join me, now (hard difficulty) I can only get them to disband (which I preferably achieve by exterminating them I just love those chevrons on the sleeves of my cohorts)

	22-01-2005 19:27									#49
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You get rid of squalor by:

Building the govenour buildings.
Building baths, aqueducts etc
Culling the population (i.e. make peasant units to use up population, disband in a new city)

Bribed rebels will only join if they are rebel units of your faction. So a Roman faction can bribe Greek rebels but they will disband. Roman rebels would join up.

-Jam

	22-01-2005 22:50									#50
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Thanks

	23-01-2005 22:37									#51
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Dammit.

Can't get the Realism mod to work. Whenever I pick a faction, it crashes to the desktop. And when I try to do anything else in the game, it just goes to the main menu.

	23-01-2005 22:46									#52
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And I've deleted that map.rtw (or whatever it is) file... THREE of them, in fact. Still, no dice.

	23-01-2005 23:18									#53
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Did you patch RTW first? I think you need patch v1.1 for the Realism mod.

	24-01-2005 01:51									#54
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Yup, I patched it first; however, what I didn't do was install 5.0; I went straight to 5.1. Working now.

	24-01-2005 02:17									#55
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Same result for me. I will have to reinstall to get the game to work again I'm afraid...(and that takes TIME... )

	24-01-2005 20:31									#56
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I'm 3-4 leader generations or so into my first campaign after the tutorial, playing as House of Julius. I have yet to see an elephant.

One thing I haven't figured out is how to get surplus budget in large cities. They seem to always run on negative numbers, no matter what I do. I've changed governor (some family members are just corrupt drunkards), I've tried to let the AI govern the city, I've built all economy improvements, and I've built a large garrison to keep rioting at bay (6 town watch units, and sometimes a large field army resting and retraining in town). Still, the highest tax rate only break even, at best.

	24-01-2005 20:38									#57
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Big cities are not supposed to be in the black. The city-specific income number is VERY misleading, because it doesn't mean a thing. Every year the total sum of your income is counted and your total upkeep costs are deducted from that sum.

This cost is taken from all cities in relation to their population, so the big cities always pay the most of it while the small cities have a healthy surplus. Worry about the total in/out scroll you have in your faction finances screen, you can safely ignore the city-specific numbers.

	24-01-2005 21:44									#58
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quote: Originally posted by Chemical Ollie One thing I haven't figured out is how to get surplus budget in large cities. They seem to always run on negative numbers, no matter what I do.

The book says that each city participate in the army maintenance according to their population size.

quote: I've changed governor (some family members are just corrupt drunkards),

Don't build Bacchus temples in cities you expect to stationate governors. And don't let governors too long in Gaul cities where there is a tavern. Try to build arenas (I think) asap in order to remove the tavern.
As Julii, I build Jupiter temples in most cities, Bacchus temples only in cities I know I will almost never have let a leader.

quote: I've tried to let the AI govern the city, I've built all economy improvements, and I've built a large garrison to keep rioting at bay (6 town watch units, and sometimes a large field army resting and retraining in town).

Huge army means huge budget. Try to optimize your army.
In my first campaign as Julii, I had 2-4 units per city and one big (12 units) army for whole Spain.
When a city was too difficult to manage, I emptied it from all units, brought my army nearby, let it revolt, retook it and exterminated the pop. This brought enough money in my coffer and let the city start again with healthier economy.

quote: Still, the highest tax rate only break even, at best.

The best income are from ports and roads. It is usually the first improvement I build with 'poor' factions.
My econnomy start to really raise only after I have build ports (level2) and paved roads.
Trade rights with wealthy civs also helps. Put one of your diplo on a boat and send him to Egypt, Seleucides and Greece/Macedon.

	24-01-2005 22:44									#59
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quote: Originally posted by Dry The book says...

Opps, I'm busted!

quote: Don't build Bacchus temples in cities you expect to stationate governors. And don't let governors too long in Gaul cities where there is a tavern. Try to build arenas (I think) asap in order to remove the tavern. As Julii, I build Jupiter temples in most cities, Bacchus temples only in cities I know I will almost never have let a leader.

What benefit is there to have a family governor compared to the AI anyway? It seems I can still construct units and buildings manually when a city is run by AI.

quote: Huge army means huge budget. Try to optimize your army. In my first campaign as Julii, I had 2-4 units per city and one big (12 units) army for whole Spain.

I get my backside handed to me if I have too small armies. Even armies with 15-20 units could be beaten by the Britons occasionally. And as I fight on several fronts, I need many of them. And an army that has been in a tough battle has to return to a good city to retrain. In the meantime, another army has to releave it on the front. I tend to have 4-6 large armies. You also need a good navy. I tried to complete the senate missions to blockade some ports. Sometimes it worked, but quite often there were 700 man enemy fleets stopping me.

quote: The best income are from ports and roads. It is usually the first improvement I build with 'poor' factions. My econnomy start to really raise only after I have build ports (level2) and paved roads. Trade rights with wealthy civs also helps. Put one of your diplo on a boat and send him to Egypt, Seleucides and Greece/Macedon.

I also construct roads, both for the economy and for my armies to march faster. The trade rights idea was a good hint. I will try it.

	24-01-2005 23:04									#60
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quote: What benefit is there to have a family governor compared to the AI anyway? It seems I can still construct units and buildings manually when a city is run by AI.

Governor stats may improve the mood and income of a city. Influence, for instance, makes the people content, management improves the money situation, and then there's the modifiers you get from the gov's retinue.