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Oerdin is offline Oerdin
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he might want to consider a trade skill. If you don't mind blue collar work, it makes a decent living. And doesn't require college education. I recommend one of the "easier" ones. Like air conditioning and refrigeration. Yes even in Alaska, those fields are in demand.


Then I'd suggest welding as you can use it just about any where. I know that NASCO (a local ship builder where I live) is hiring apprentice welders with zero experience for $9.80. It takes two years to become a journeyman but then your pay goes up to $18.50 per hour. That's solid pay for a blue collar worker.

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Suffering from ads?

That ain't great, but that ain't bad. And from there you can moving into building construction, which pays much better. Heck, welders can make upwards of $30 an hour in someplaces. Course it's a dangerous job.

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myself. I'm an operating engineer. nationally referred to as a stationary engineer. blue collar work most definately. Pay is well above $20 an hour.

Although still nothing compared to what city workers make. Yeah I'm kind of jealous.

Most of our city employees make well over $60,000 a year. It's ****ed up the goverment makes more money than most of the population.

If you can get a goverment job, keep it.

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I cant get a job up here in Barrow so Im stuck with nothing to do 24/7. It has been this way for over a year now. (with the exception of two months last summer)


Here, let me help you:
http://www.jobdango.com/alaska.asp?jobcity=Barrow
http://www.barrow-ak.ziply.com/jobs/

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Without a job I have no money. Without money I am entirely reliant on other people for everything from food and clothing to getting my hair cut and renting movies(which I cant do anyway).


As far as movies go, borrow from a friend - I'm a huge movie buff, and that's what I do. I've seen about 10 movies this month thanks to friends with DVDs.

As far as the rest, well...check the job links.

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Without money I cannot leave Barrow unless someone else can spring me, like my mom, who sprung me out of here 2 days ago, well not really because my sister had to go and be pregnant and go into false-premature labor and be sent out of the village down to anchorage and now my mom says I should just wait until after my sister gives birth before going to NM with her which could be tomorrow or in two months. (or most likely wont happen, since its all code speak for "son I dont have the money to send you down here")


Which is what a job is for...you don't need to work in Barrow as long as you can make enough working and living in Anchorage or Nome or Juneau or elsewhere (as I did in Allston and Boston and Brighton and Newburyport and Peabody, all in Massachusetts).

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I cannot whore myself out to the military like I always wanted. I have medical problems that would prevent that, its just always been a dream of mine so I thought that maybe just maybe when I turn 18 it will all be magicaly ok and I wont have any further problems but nooooooo.


I don't know what your problems are. My problem was obesity, and I worked through that and could have easily joined the military once I lost 85 lbs. If your problem is psychological or genetic, I'm sorry, but if it is something within your control (like obesity, depression, or anxiety), and the military is a good option for you, I suggest you do it - they'll pay for college as you need it.

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And no I havent gone to the Doc about it. The hospital up here has a horrible reputation and I wouldnt trust them to correctly diagnose a rash. I do however plan on visiting the doc down in NM, if I ever get there. If it is a fixable problem then maybe I can whore myself out. ( I doubt it though )


Guess what: if it isn't possible to get something done in Alaska, get it done elsewhere. And there are organizations that will pay for it. First off, if you can get it through an employer, do it (because there are jobs available all over Alaska). Second, if you can't, there are doctors on the cheap

http://www.isil.org/resources/lit/w...-afford-hc.html
http://alaska.uscity.net/Health/
http://www.mehs.educ.state.ak.us/po...ects/akhist.htm

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I have no drivers license, and I have no one who can teach me to drive.


http://www.state.ak.us/dmv

Get your ****ing driver's license. I don't know how much it costs in Alaska, but it can't be more than what I pay in Massachusetts (which, btw, I got myself without parents.)

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And I have an overdue library book that I'll end up owing over $10 on, with no money to pay that off with I wont be able to check out anymore books.


The least of your worries. You can get a lot of info online:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page
http://www.infoplease.com/
http://mentalhelp.net/

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So much for getting my GED and getting out of this **** hole early.


My 17 year-old cousin just gave birth. She also just got her GED. So did my friend who was coked-out for the past two years. So did about 600,000 others last year

http://www.acenet.edu/clll/ged/index.cfm

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worst of all Im starting to give up.


If you give up, the only disservice is to yourself. We here shouldn't care unless you help yourself.

I just gave you a lot to get you started. Please, follow through for yourself and for those of us here who believe in you.

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Tired of ads?

Find someone who needs some wood cut, and don't be afraid of the blisters.

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myself. I'm an operating engineer. nationally referred to as a stationary engineer. blue collar work most definately. Pay is well above $20 an hour.

Although still nothing compared to what city workers make. Yeah I'm kind of jealous.

Most of our city employees make well over $60,000 a year. It's ****ed up the goverment makes more money than most of the population.

If you can get a goverment job, keep it.




Federal Government jobs are even better.

The POTENTIAL for pay is lower than in the private sector, but the pay is good and so are the benefits.

Plus you have to be a complete dumbass to get fired.

The working conditions are usually better as well.

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Here, let me help you:
http://www.jobdango.com/alaska.asp?jobcity=Barrow
http://www.barrow-ak.ziply.com/jobs/


Did you bother to look at either of those links? One is nothing but scams, and the other doesn't have a job within five hundred miles of Barrow.

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.you don't need to work in Barrow as long as you can make enough working and living in Anchorage or Nome or Juneau or elsewhere (as I did in Allston and Boston and Brighton and Newburyport and Peabody, all in Massachusetts).


Have you looked at a map of Alaska? That's like telling a guy in Montana to get work in Texas. And comapring Massachusetts to Alaska? Heck, I don't even know if there's a highway from Barrow south.

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Look, Che, I'm giving him alternatives, which is more than I can say for you. What did you tell him to do? Join a construction team? Yeah, that's so easy, anyone who drops out of high school can just pick up a join one. Right.

http://www.hometownlocator.com/JobS...23&SCFIPS=02185
http://alaska.jobs.com
http://www.jobs.state.ak.us/offices/m/
http://www.groovejob.com/jobs/resul.../c_Barrow/e_483

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No, I told him to follow Oerdin's advice and finish school or get his GED, plus he ain't qualified for a lot of those jobs, since he dropped outta school like an idiot.

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Which, as you obviously see, I gave him links to as well.

I'm not quite sure why you're attacking me when I gave him many alternatives, more than anyone else on the board. A person who thinks they should "just quit" needs to get as many options as are available. I think that's what I gave Space.

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I'm not quite sure why you're attacking me when I gave him many alternatives, more than anyone else on the board.


Cuz yer're a splitter!

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Cuz yer're a splitter!


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I don't even know if there's a highway from Barrow south.


There is. When I was 20 my best friend and I hatched a plan to drive from San Diego to Barrow to see the artic ocean. It didn't work out and we ended up getting as far north as Prince George BC before we called it off.

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Both require a college degree and he doesn't even have a GED or high school deploma.


I have my GED.


Apparently I have to say this again, I CANNOT GET A JOB UP HERE AND I HAVE BEEN LOOKING NON-STOP FOR ALMOST AN ENTIRE YEAR NOW. Without a job I have no money, without money I have no way out of here under my own power. So quit telling me I should get a job.

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I wish I were a chick with a web cam right now.

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space, move to seattle, well start a commune of GED laden young men

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I wish I were a chick with a web cam right now.


I wish you were too.

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I'm not quite sure why you're attacking me when I gave him many alternatives, more than anyone else on the board.

Because, for all your "get your crap together" talk, you seem to forget he lives in a village of 4500 inhab, including many traditional Eskimos, and whose bond with civilization is air travel. It's far more difficult to find a job (any job) in such an isolated village than in a dense area that is among the richest of the world (Mass.). The links you provided offer no jobs whatsoever within 500 miles (!).

True, he could try to get his crap together on several aspects. He should be making no expenses whatsoever, and progressively gather enough money to go, at least to Anchorage (which, at least, is an actual city). He should try to solve his medical problems, or educate himself with the Net in his abundant spare time.

But the way you treat him is completely off the reality of Barrow. The land there isn't full of opportunity at all. There are simply no jobs (there are no DVD rental shops as well), and the best shot he has to make money is to follow NYE's advice: find some guy who wants wood cut, and don't be afraid of blisters.

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Or we could raise the money to let him fly to France where he could then claim asylum on the grounds of being forced to live in a harsh, desolate wasteland.

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Or we could raise the money to let him fly to France where he could then claim asylum on the grounds of being forced to live in a harsh, desolate wasteland.

We'd reject him, we don't like poor people

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Apparently I have to say this again, I CANNOT GET A JOB UP HERE AND I HAVE BEEN LOOKING NON-STOP FOR ALMOST AN ENTIRE YEAR NOW. Without a job I have no money, without money I have no way out of here under my own power. So quit telling me I should get a job.


Who are you going to blame for the overdue library book?

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From the picture quiz: Barrow, Alaska
As far as I understand, both the downtown city, suburbs, and airport are represented in this picture.
Seems like a very dynamic place

Hope you can find something useful to do Space
Btw, didn't you talk about going to Sweden?

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Got spare money?

It did make me chuckle reading that bit about the library book- I had one due back for today, and didn't fancy the one-hour walk to the library, so I used this amazing conrtaption called a telephone and renewed it that way. Technology these days, eh?

The year's being good for my jobhunt at the moment, quite a few prospects from looking at only two recruiters. Arr!

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From the picture quiz: Barrow, Alaska
As far as I understand, both the downtown city, suburbs, and airport are represented in this picture.

You're being overkill. The suburbs extend to the right. The part of the village that doesn't show on the pic is about AS BIG as the one depicted

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Let's have a look in the atlas where Barrow is...

...holy sh*t, that truly is the back of beyond...living somewhere like that would drive me utterly insane.

Get out dammit!

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my life sucks even more... plus, I just lost all the data on my secondary hard drive... all my mp3's all my downloads, ALL MY PORN!!!!@#!#@

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Fun fact: The nearest city to Barrow with a population larger than one million is Los Angelos. That's the equivalent of me, in England, having New York City as the largest nearby city.l

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Just a few options: Start an online web store for employment, go fishing so you don't have to buy food or borrow a rifle and hunt, sell the skins for money, learn how to prospect for gold, breed sled dogs and sell them, volunter to work for free at one of the local employers that way when a job does open you're first in line, write a book & sell it, learn to draw & start a web comic, become a hunting guide for stupid tourists, offer to shovel snow for cash, make home brewed beer and sell it, learn a musical instrument & join a band, join a church and go on a missionary trip (but don't come back), get a government job, hitch hike to Ankorage and live in the homeless shelter, find a cute girl and become a house husband.



These are all very good suggestions, if perhaps not always realistic.



I'm in a similiar sort of situation, although my problem is not that I'm "cut off" from opporunity, employment, and life in the fast lane, but that I don't want any of that, and have cut myself from it volountarily. It's not always easy finding your own way in this day and age, though.

I've actually done a number of things in Oerdin's suggestions - I've started to garden and grow some of my own vegetables. Last year was the first year I had a garden, and so it was mostly a learning process and something to keep me busy. While I didn't get alot of monetary value from it (and I didn't intend to), what I learned will be used to make my garden even more abundant the next year. Of course, I live in a climate with a short growing seasons, and I'm vegetarian. So having a self sustained food source is a long ways off But it saves a few dollars, gives me enjoyment, and teache sme alot.

I've also done a good deal of volounteer work at the local Art Gallery, leading to me geting paid for the occasional few weeks of work when there's an installation or event and alot of extra help is needed. It's also opened alot of opportunities to experience new things - I get to meet visiting artists, go to their workshops, and just meet alot of new people in general. Aswell as alot of diverse job experience.

I've learned to play the Harmonica. Not with the intent of joining a band or making money off it, but it's fun, cheap, and stimulating entertainment.

I've thought about the "missionary" work - only in my case it'd be environemental work. Planting trees in Africa, or shoveling baboon **** in taiwan or something. I'm not really ready for such a thing right now, though.

Becoming a "house husband" is something I dream of, but is not really somethign I have control over.


And my latest project is to learn pottery. Thanks to the connections I've made through the art gallery, I've gotten to know a few potters. I've taken a workshop, gotten some pointers from a friend, made an investment of buying 40kgs of clay and some tools (for only $60 or so) and am already having fun hand building and learning to work the clay. I also know someone who has a pottery wheel collecting dust, and they're willing to let me use it - hopefully I'll get ahold of that soon and I can work my way towards making more 'sellable' pieces.

I never did go through with geting my GED, though. I was really motivated for a while there... and was even thinking about working my way to university and such but kind of lost interest in it when I realised that I'd just be selling myself out and not really doing what I *want* if I go down that path (I'm not adverse to university in itself, but there really isnt a whole lot of studies avaiable that interest me, and I'm not really interesting in having a "real job" anyways - I'd probably just end up geting a dimploma in folklore&mythology or some crap). While having a GED wouldn't hurt, I just sort of put it on the back burner and forgot about it. But I've also been considering going to a credited Art School near here, which would be just as good for all intents and purposes, I think. This whole art thing is a bit new to me though, so I have to work on that a bit first before I'd be comfortable making that move.

 
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