10-01-2005 00:12									#31
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In that case I'd say PCI-E (or descendants) looks like the future but at present nothing is on the market to take advantage of the potential. So I wouldn't be too worried about getting an 'old' AGP card.

	10-01-2005 00:51									#32
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Is there really a difference between lets say, 3.4 GHz and 3.6 GHz?

	10-01-2005 01:29									#33
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quote: Originally posted by Lord Nuclear Is there really a difference between lets say, 3.4 GHz and 3.6 GHz?

3.6


minus-


3.4

=.2 +

so yes technically yes

	10-01-2005 01:33									#34
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Well you can pick it up in benchmarks, but in terms of a noticeable difference in practical terms there isn't one.

Always worth looking at the prices. 200Mhz more when you are at the top of the range costs a lot, for small gain. 200Mhz a bit off the top might well not set you back much more.

	10-01-2005 01:41									#35
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hehe, we started talking about AOE III and now we're talking about graphic cards... it really shows how bad RTS games are, if you have to be worried about gfx cards...

	10-01-2005 01:50									#36
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quote: Originally posted by Alex hehe, we started talking about AOE III and now we're talking about graphic cards... it really shows how bad RTS games are, if you have to be worried about gfx cards...

or actually learning that a RTS game is different in terms of setup with a PC..for optimal performance

I mean

U wouldnt take a hammer to do a skillsaw job now would you?
I hear lots of complaints about this game sux or blows..because of this or that when in fact the pc was never intended to perform

or

somone sez a game sux or blows because it look just like the version of two years earlier

we need to have the proper equipment to run state of the art games

I believe this is what we are doing hee

	10-01-2005 03:53									#37
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Exactly. I've heard MCE enhances graphics, is this so?

	10-01-2005 03:59									#38
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quote: Originally posted by Lord Nuclear Exactly. I've heard MCE enhances graphics, is this so?

well..if MCE is set up on a dual boot with a front side/back with a dl isdnoverload then yes

but if said MB is a monorail busload then probably then port would need to be manually opened and of course one would have to do an ip config from the "RUN" option on DOS

But thats all irrelevant if your imp code is set to a number greater than the d/l speed your clock is set at on a 133/133 speed in the BIOS

ok

back to topic at hand

	10-01-2005 05:28									#39
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quote: Originally posted by Grandpa Troll 3.6 minus- 3.4 =.2 + so yes technically yes

That picture is classic.


Cautiously optimistic about the game.

	10-01-2005 05:43									#40
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	10-01-2005 05:48									#41
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Don't spam GT.

	10-01-2005 06:08									#42
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why dont u guys care bout this game, it sounds like they'll make an impossibly different (as in more real) physics engine

BTW by the time this is out (end this yr maybe? ) the hardware to run it wouldnt cost too much (like mid range generation directX 10?

dont hate RTS, it has a lot in common w/ TBS

	10-01-2005 06:31									#43
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quote: Originally posted by HuangShang why dont u guys care bout this game, it sounds like they'll make an impossibly different (as in more real) physics engine BTW by the time this is out (end this yr maybe? ) the hardware to run it wouldnt cost too much (like mid range generation directX 10? dont hate RTS, it has a lot in common w/ TBS

I agree

that this will be a next generation engine...or the hopes of it will be

as for hating I dont think people hate as much as dont care for

Me I like both


In CIVIII in the few games of MP I had the privelege of playing I like whatever they call it where you play your turns and click in and then it would seem like simultaneaously the next turn was up..kinda like a mid point of the RTS and TBS

I do both games each for a different reason

In AOEII:The Conquerors I enjoyed the map editor and hope this will have a similiar feature

Most games have decent editors except C & C Generals which I havent really had the time to learn

Ok

Looking forward to I think Solver said February for some screenshots or updates

Gramps

	10-01-2005 09:20									#44
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I think a historical RTS with a realistic physics engine is a terrific idea. I'm just a little antsy about the execution; seems like it would be pretty difficult to pull off.

I'm also wondering how they are going to pull off the whole "age of exploration" thing in a RTS context. Will there be playable aboriginal nations?

	10-01-2005 17:59									#45
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No, but aboriginal nations are there (computer-controlled) and you can "ally" with them. Allying with a native tribe gives you a bonus. Allying with them all might or might not win the game for you.

	10-01-2005 21:36									#46
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@ thread

leave it to you guys to turn an anticipation thread into an ATI vs nVidia thread.

nVidia
openGL

btw, this game looks all right, AoE has been lame compared to other RTS's... I'll have to see about this one, however.

	10-01-2005 22:57									#47
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quote: Originally posted by Solver No, but aboriginal nations are there (computer-controlled) and you can "ally" with them. Allying with a native tribe gives you a bonus. Allying with them all might or might not win the game for you.

Why have they decided to make the First Nations non-playable?

That's just silly.

	11-01-2005 02:42									#48
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quote: Originally posted by DrSpike Always worth looking at the prices. 200Mhz more when you are at the top of the range costs a lot, for small gain. 200Mhz a bit off the top might well not set you back much more.

This is the right thing to do, you play FAR too much at the top end for very little return, every processor range has a 'sweet spot', its usually about 3/4 of the way up the range.

Another trick is that you can usually o/c a mid range processor to run has fast as the top of the range - 'cos usually they're the same model under a diffferent name.

	11-01-2005 02:45									#49
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quote: Why have they decided to make the First Nations non-playable? That's just silly.

Because they're going the path of having all nations rather similar, with some bonus differences and some unique units. Like AoE2. Having natives as playable wouldn't fit in with that

	11-01-2005 04:59									#50
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hmm interesting process Solver..

	12-01-2005 05:55									#51
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or u could look at it as they cant come up w/ a good story (or long enough story) and enough props to make the real Americans playable at all

i'm thinking that indigenous people will be throw in just for something else to do/get in ur way, a feature, kinda like how they put gods in AoM, which of course, is the real AoE3

i think i didnt miss quote this from an IGN interview (off the top of my head): you are gonna have to settle unconquered land in the name of your home nation/investors

BTW when i said hate i meant it as in hate on, which some people seemed to be doing, wutevr

	12-01-2005 06:07									#52
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quote: Originally posted by HuangShang i'm thinking that indigenous people will be throw in just for something else to do/get in ur way, a feature,

Maybe your right..they are put in to add some spice..which would be cool..maybe they have a chance to join you or maybe they try to slow you up

either way it sounds nice

Gramps

	12-01-2005 23:54									#53
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As I said, they exist there as tribes you can ally with to get a particular bonus.

	13-01-2005 00:25									#54
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quote: Originally posted by Solver As I said, they exist there as tribes you can ally with to get a particular bonus.

i wonder if you can have say 4 allies like this or perhaps unlimited?

	13-01-2005 02:16									#55
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There is a limited number of these tribes in each game, obviously the exact one is unclear at this point. But if you ally with all, it's a possibility to win the game.

	13-01-2005 05:20									#56
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quote: Originally posted by Solver There is a limited number of these tribes in each game, obviously the exact one is unclear at this point. But if you ally with all, it's a possibility to win the game.

Solver I am seeing a possible "twist"

It would be cool if say you allied with maybe 4 of these and then they all revolted at once because too many traits straining them

but maybe I have too much imagination?

Gramps

	13-01-2005 05:27									#57
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quote: Originally posted by HuangShang or u could look at it as they cant come up w/ a good story (or long enough story) and enough props to make the real Americans playable at all

Story? It's a historical RTS.

	13-01-2005 07:01									#58
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quote: Originally posted by Kuciwalker Story? It's a historical RTS.

ok then, they dont have the props or content
all campains have to have stories though

	13-01-2005 07:40									#59
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quote: Originally posted by Lord Nuclear Since were talking about computers, I should be getting a 3.6 GHz P4, X850 XT, 20" LCD, 2 GB of RAM.

The Tech that put my new computer together two weeks ago said 3 or 3.2 is about as fast has a chip can go because of the heat that it put off. He said they are trying to see if they can put 2 3gig chips together and see if it will run as a 6 gig machine.

My new computer is 2.8 gig, with 1 gig of ram, Niv. GForce 6600 w/128 meg, D925XCV mother board, USB 2.0/1394a audio card.

Civ 3 with 32 Civs take a turn at about 15 sec. On my 1.6 it took about 3 or 4 min.

	13-01-2005 07:59									#60
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I highly doubt that 3.0 GHz is the fastest possible.