15-01-2005 01:10									#91
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Does Huygens just take pics, or does it analyse the composition of the ground and atmosphere?

	15-01-2005 01:12									#92
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quote: Originally posted by Spiffor Does Huygens just take pics, or does it analyse the composition of the ground and atmosphere?

Yes.

Here's a link to Huygens' payload :
http://www.rssd.esa.int/index.php?p...NS&page=Payload

	15-01-2005 01:16									#93
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Theres a microphone? cool

	15-01-2005 01:16									#94
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quote: Originally posted by Eli First pic :

what the hell is that huge dark smooth expanse on the right side of the picture?

	15-01-2005 01:17									#95
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We can expect some colour pics, right?

	15-01-2005 01:18									#96
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probably the methane lakes....or a muddy plain. who knows. Guess we gotta wait for the next series of images.

	15-01-2005 01:18									#97
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A sea?

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quote: Originally posted by booger I agree. ESA could really challenge NASA. Europe has the resources and moreall, europe has a supporting public that NASA does not have. They would make sure these missions get off the ground and no scrapped. NASA really hasnt really lead the way since the cold war. In fact these last 14 years have been really bad activity wise, for NASA. So much more could of done after the cold war. I can count on one hand the missions that NASA did the last 15 years that are worth mentioning. Not that im knocking NASA. It just seems they slacked off since the commies fell.

ESA and NASA seem to perform best when cooperating rather than 'challenging' each other. huygens-Cassini isn't two missions it's really two parts of a single hugely successful mission.

	15-01-2005 01:19									#99
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The payload is just wow It's amazing how many instruments can be carried by this little, entirely automated thing.

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quote: Originally posted by alva We can expect some colour pics, right?

dont think its possible. Something about the visible wavelengths in the atmosphere wouldnt be the same digitally. Same with the MER's. The color would be added afterwords.

	15-01-2005 01:20									#101
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quote: Originally posted by alva We can expect some colour pics, right?

Probably not.

http://www.lpl.arizona.edu/~kholso/test_images.htm

Here are some test images, and all of them are grayscale.

Edit : Until you scroll down a bit more and see the color ones. :doh:

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quote: Originally posted by Geronimo ESA and NASA seem to perform best when cooperating rather than 'challenging' each other. huygens-Cassini isn't two missions it's really two parts of a single hugely successful mission.

Working together.
Competition
Rivalry

	15-01-2005 01:21									#103
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quote: Originally posted by alva We can expect some colour pics, right?

I'm by no means a specialist, but I imagine the colour pics will be reconstructed from the B&W pics, when the scientists know better about the composition of the atmosphere and surface, as well as with the further knowledge brought by the next pics.

	15-01-2005 01:27									#104
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Surface pic!

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	15-01-2005 01:30									#105
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The rocks look like they're on something softer. Do you know how soft the surface is?

	15-01-2005 01:31									#106
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quote: Originally posted by Eli Probably not. http://www.lpl.arizona.edu/~kholso/test_images.htm Here are some test images, and all of them are grayscale. Edit : Until you scroll down a bit more and see the color ones. :doh:

Somehow I doubt those pics are coming from Titan though, you are way to gullible.

	15-01-2005 01:31									#107
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quote: Originally posted by Eli Surface pic!

What's that in the topleft corner??! - an alien's thumb??

	15-01-2005 01:33									#108
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quote: Originally posted by dejon What's that in the topleft corner??! - an alien's thumb??

Someday, somewhere that will happen, must be some moment to witness.

	15-01-2005 01:34									#109
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quote: Originally posted by alva Somehow I doubt those pics are coming from Titan though, you are way to gullible.

It's a demonstration of the camera's abilities, so no color there = no color on Titan.

	15-01-2005 01:36									#110
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Who needs aliens anyways - most men have enough trouble understanding women.

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quote: Originally posted by booger dont think its possible. Something about the visible wavelengths in the atmosphere wouldnt be the same digitally. Same with the MER's. The color would be added afterwords.

The MER's certainly can take color pictures. The only trouble they have is making sure the colors are calibrated propely when combining the various filter images into the final color image. I think the huygens probe has a 3 filter system so it can probably take some sort of 'color' images but it will probably produce color images that won't have any resemblence to how things would look to human eyes given the compensation that has to be made for how dark it really is on Titan.

	15-01-2005 01:43									#112
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quote: Originally posted by Eli Surface pic!

I'm surprised the horizon is so close and curved. that doesn't seem right for an object the size of titan.

Somehow I thought it would 'look colder', on Titan.

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quote: Originally posted by booger Theres a microphone? cool

Nobody could hear you scream in space anyway

	15-01-2005 01:44									#114
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good point geronimo

That is an excellent surface pic. Soft round stones sank into the ground a bit. Wierd!

One thing I really want to see is Saturn in the background.

	15-01-2005 01:46									#115
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quote: Originally posted by Geronimo Somehow I thought it would 'look colder', on Titan.

We tend to associate the image of cold weather with snow, freeze or ice, but there may be not enough wateron Titan to cover it with ice...

	15-01-2005 01:49									#116
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quote: Originally posted by booger One thing I really want to see is Saturn in the background.

I've always figured that if Titan is too smoggy and cloudy for us to see it's surface from space, then it's probably too smoggy and cloudy for us to see anything in space from the surface as well.

	15-01-2005 01:50									#117
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you know i never really thought about it like that. You see all the artist impressions of the surface and yet they all show saturn and the sun


but you know what. The close proximity of titan to the billion times larger saturn probably gauruntees you something gets through.

	15-01-2005 01:51									#118
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quote: Originally posted by Spiffor We tend to associate the image of cold weather with snow, freeze or ice, but there may be not enough wateron Titan to cover it with ice...

that's probably it. I knew there wouldn't be snow but I probably unconsciously associated a landing on an 'icy moon' with a surface that would be covered with more white stuff or something.

	15-01-2005 01:53									#119
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quote: Originally posted by Eli Surface pic!

good thing we posted the surface pic! ESA has taken the picture down now the only picture that can be found is the earlier rivery looking one.

	15-01-2005 01:55									#120
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Man Hoagland is gonna be all over this thing