20-01-2005 13:09									#91
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quote: You should read some of the early Church fathers and mediaeval theologians on what 'women' are like. The misogyny and hatred is paralleled only in modern times by fundie Christian frothings and ravings about gay men (and lesbians, when they can remember they exist).

Well, even the Apostle Paul, for all his love of the unmarried state, insisted that neither married men nor women should deprive the other of their body.

I'd love to see some quotes backing up this assertion.

	20-01-2005 17:49									#92
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quote: Originally posted by Lazarus and the Gimp It's balanced out by the crap taste in music and films that comes with the territory. And the cripplingly prohibitive standards of personal hygiene.

Include me out of that assessment, thank you.





'I'd love to see some quotes backing up this assertion.'

Obi Gyn


Well, I'm sure we'd all love to see quotes backing up all your various assertions and assumptions, but we can't all get what we want.

I've listed some relevant church fathers renowned for their misogyny, some of whom I've quoted in this very forum before, and you've made a single statement about Paul, the Jew hater, not notably backed up by any direct quotes from any of his epistles.

I think for once I'll rest on my laurels, and let you do some work.

	20-01-2005 17:56									#93
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quote: It's balanced out by the crap taste in music and films that comes with the territory. And the cripplingly prohibitive standards of personal hygiene.

How I would love to believe you

Regarding Paul... is it particularly wise to take the advice on marriage of men who gre up thinking it was acceptable to beat women and treat them as property, merely by virtue of age and artificial connection to a fairy tale (connection made by similar men over the following millenium or two)?

	20-01-2005 18:16									#94
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quote: Originally posted by Whaleboy Regarding Paul... is it particularly wise to take the advice on marriage of men who gre up thinking it was acceptable to beat women and treat them as property, merely by virtue of age and artificial connection to a fairy tale (connection made by similar men over the following millenium or two)?

I'd say no.


But then I'm an atheistical gay homo pinko commie antichrist who makes assertions, so what would I know?

	20-01-2005 18:22									#95
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You're a commie? Cool

	20-01-2005 18:26									#96
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quote: Originally posted by Spiffor You're a commie? Cool

No, 'twas a jest.

I'd never join a club that would have me as a member.

I'm a Groucho Marx-ist.

	20-01-2005 19:30									#97
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Er, wasn't that Woody Allen? Or did he just quote Groucho. Either way, it's always been one of my favourite sayings.

	20-01-2005 19:37									#98
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quote: Originally posted by Winston Er, wasn't that Woody Allen? Or did he just quote Groucho. Either way, it'll always be one of my favourite sayings.

Winston, are you asking me for a quote?
Since when did you find religion?


I sent the club a wire stating, PLEASE ACCEPT MY RESIGNATION. I DON'T WANT TO BELONG TO ANY CLUB THAT WILL ACCEPT ME AS A MEMBER.

-- Groucho Marx


Those are my principles. If you don't like them I have others.

I've had a perfectly wonderful evening. But this wasn't it.

Either this man is dead or my watch has stopped.

The secret of life is honesty and fair dealing..if you can fake that, you've got it made.

Military intelligence is a contradiction in terms.

She got her good looks from her father. He's a plastic surgeon.

I worked myself up from nothing to a state of extreme poverty.

Remember men you are fighting for the ladies honor, which is probably more than she ever did.

Paying alimony is like feeding hay to a dead horse.

Last night I shot an elephant in my pyjamas and how he got in my pyjamas I'll never know.

We took pictures of the native girls, but they weren't developed. . . but we're going back next week.

Politics doesn't make strange bedfellows, marriage does.

I was married by a judge. I should have asked for a jury.

Marriage is the chief cause of divorce.

A child of five would understand this. Send someone to fetch a child of five.

From the moment I picked up your book until I laid it down, I was convulsed with laughter. Some day I intend reading it.

Go, and never darken my towels again.

Money frees you from doing things you dislike. Since I dislike doing nearly everything, money is handy.

Women should be obscene and not heard.


Groucho Marx- the Comedic Manifesto

	20-01-2005 19:42									#99
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara If it were a choice, I think I'd rather be gay. I'd like to have the fashion sense and ability to dance that comes with it. Plus, not having to deal with women.

Believe me, it's not inherent, despite what some misguided gays think. I know quite a few gay men and women, many of whom I'd consider close friends. Some of them definitely have great fashion/design sense, but there are others who just assume that because they're gay, they have that great sense too. And it's so tragic when they really don't.

	20-01-2005 19:46									#100
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quote: Originally posted by Kontiki Believe me, it's not inherent, despite what some misguided gays think.

I suspect I know rather more gay men than you do. And I don't think it's us that make the assumption, but others- like chegitz.

	20-01-2005 19:51									#101
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@ those Groucho quotes!

Thanks, that really cheered me up!

	20-01-2005 19:52									#102
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quote: Originally posted by Winston @ those Groucho quotes! Thanks, that really cheered me up!

Dane ardour.

	20-01-2005 19:58									#103
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You want to step outside and repeat that, mister?

	20-01-2005 20:02									#104
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quote: Originally posted by molly bloom I suspect I know rather more gay men than you do. And I don't think it's us that make the assumption, but others- like chegitz.

I'm sure you do, and perhaps you misunderstood me. I definitely know a few gay men that really believe they have great taste in fashion/design simply by virtue of them being gay - and they most certainly do not.

I did not mean to imply that all gays think this way - indeed, I also have gay friends who have horrible taste but know they have horrible taste.

	20-01-2005 20:08									#105
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quote: Originally posted by Winston You want to step outside and repeat that, mister?

Give it a Latin beat- 'de nada'- = 'de rien'

or in American, 'no biggie'.

	20-01-2005 22:03									#106
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Sex with the right person is never underrated. But sex for the sake of it does get boring.

It's like, when it's not there, you miss it. When it is there, you think "big deal".

	20-01-2005 22:11									#107
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quote: Originally posted by Whaleboy Regarding Paul... is it particularly wise to take the advice on marriage of men who gre up thinking it was acceptable to beat women and treat them as property, merely by virtue of age and artificial connection to a fairy tale (connection made by similar men over the following millenium or two)?

When the advice in question is "don't deny your wife sex", I think the answer is 'yes'.

	20-01-2005 23:04									#108
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quote: Originally posted by molly bloom I suspect I know rather more gay men than you do. And I don't think it's us that make the assumption, but others- like chegitz.

It was a joke, you know.

	20-01-2005 23:16									#109
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quote: Originally posted by Asher I was talking to UR. I don't know if Tubes is ugly or not.

So was I.

	21-01-2005 15:40									#110
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara It was a joke, you know.

I've seen your photos. My style guide is in the post.

	22-01-2005 06:32									#111
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quote: Originally posted by Asher Oh, shut up.

actually I've thought of it. It's not that far-fetched. but I cannot deny I'm attracted to women

	22-01-2005 06:43									#112
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quote: Originally posted by Last Conformist Well, you can find atheist puritanians too. There are always going to be exceptions, but I can't see how it would be unfair to say that Christianity generally takes a pretty dim view of sex and sexuality. @Diss: Forgive me if I take the fact you're starting threads like this as suggesting you actually do want sex (and that's inclusive of the mental bit Mrs Tub is speaking of - likely that's part of why you do not seem satisfied with bought sex), but try to tell yourself you don't want to.

similar to how women walk around saying: "I don't need a man"

possibly.

but mostly I made this thread to discuss sex in general. I didn't want to delve too far into my personal issues. I like to think I'm not that dysfunctional, though I might be. I don't want this to be another "me" thread.

	22-01-2005 06:47									#113
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara Bad pizza isn't good. Neither is bad sex.

I've never had bad pizza. some is better than others, but even the tv dinner pizzas are good.

	22-01-2005 09:53									#114
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I've had plenty of bad pizza. I've had pizza so bad I couldn't finish it.

	22-01-2005 10:15									#115
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara I've had plenty of bad pizza. I've had pizza so bad I couldn't finish it.

you just don't have a healthy appreciation of cheese.

	22-01-2005 10:15									#116
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speaking of lowering sexual libido. check this story out.

I've heard of guys doing this in other countries, but never in my home state.

man castrates himself.

http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_h...s/25705830.html

	22-01-2005 10:36									#117
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Uh.....just checking this thread out. I'm back, I guess....


I can't really relate to this just because my sex drive is really erratic. and yes, I still support comrade chairman.


who the heck is "Mrs. Tuberski?"

	22-01-2005 10:41									#118
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quote: Originally posted by Frankychan Uh.....just checking this thread out. I'm back, I guess.... I can't really relate to this just because my sex drive is really erratic. and yes, I still support comrade chairman. who the heck is "Mrs. Tuberski?"

the wife of Tuberski of course

	22-01-2005 10:49									#119
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Damn,

Tuber got a wife?

1) Holy crap. Congrats, my man! Damn, I've been away that long!

2) I hope she doesn't think like you do..Cause BYU does suck. ;P




Wow, I thought 'Poly changed....and I guess it has. Congrats Tuber!

	22-01-2005 10:52									#120
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although there is the slight possibility she is tuberski's DL .