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If Georgia was in the SEC before the 50s, it was Sinkwich. If not, then I'm not sure .


Yup. Frank Sinkwich. 1942, Georgia.

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I doubt that. I'm on the CFL site and 2004 season had PLENTY of blowouts. In fact, it was very rare to see the week where 1 game, out of the 4 played every week (ie, 25% of games every week), wasn't a blowout!


you need to redefine blowout fin the cfl, 21 points isn't that much, Therew have been many ocasions whereteams have come back from much larger defecites in the llast couple of minutes.

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Too much offense, not enough defense.


thats funy, why is it that the three strongest teams(TToronto, Montreal and Vancouver) are the ones with strong defences, and the team with the best offence finished second last in the league?

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The 3 downs make it more boring, IMO (reduces the strategic consequences of one more down).


Are you crazy? three downs means that every down counts. Three downs means that evry play is important, it turns a knockdown into half a stop instead of just an unimportant play.

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you need to redefine blowout fin the cfl, 21 points isn't that much, Therew have been many ocasions whereteams have come back from much larger defecites in the llast couple of minutes.


21 points is a pretty good margin. That's 3 TD scores (at least). Obviously the team did not come back from the 3 scores and may have been more outplayed than that. What is a blowout? 4 TD scores? 5 TD scores?

Don't be silly.

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thats funy, why is it that the three strongest teams(TToronto, Montreal and Vancouver) are the ones with strong defences, and the team with the best offence finished second last in the league?


Let's see, you have 4 QBs who've thrown for over 5,000 yards. That's almost half of the league. With a good number of running backs that get over 1500 yards. Yep, that's WAY too much offense.

Stong defenses... as opposed to letting everyone score on every play that is?

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Are you crazy? three downs means that every down counts. Three downs means that evry play is important, it turns a knockdown into half a stop instead of just an unimportant play.


So, by adding a 4th down, means that one down doesn't count . Are you in 2nd grade or something? Each down counts with 4 downs. Perhaps it is because we have more talented players, but a 'knockdown' shouldn't end a drive by itself.

And with only 2 downs before punt or FG, you can't get those sustained drives which consist for running for 3, 4 yards every play. Those amazing drives that eat up the clock and destroy the defense. What a shame losing that is .

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Ok, a not horribly tough one:

Who has the lowest Career ERA (min 1000 innings pitched) in MLB history?

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i know pedro has the active player lowest career era. this guy has either had to piitch in the dead ball era or way before, like turn of the century. it might not even be an official record, cuz i dont think they took ERAs till l1917 or something

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They had ERAs before 1917, but the record holder played only during the modern era (after 1900). And it is an official record.

And it isn't Pedro.

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Bob Gibson?

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I'm betting an old timer here. I would guess eithier Ed Walsh or Christy Mathewson.

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Plato's got it. Just looked it up: Ed Walsh, 1.82 ERA.

Bob Gibson ranks #90. So I was a little off.

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Trusting Guynemer, I'll go ahead and ask the next one.

In the NFL, which player has the most career fumbles?

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Ricky Waters.

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He was mentioned on another question, Warren Moon.

Dave Kreig was second.

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Yeah, Guy was right, it was Walsh.

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You're a question late Imran, I'm right, now.

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He was mentioned on another question, Warren Moon.

Dave Kreig was second.

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Warren Moon is correct. 161 career fumbles.

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Keeping with the turnovers theme.

Who has the most turnovers in NBA history for a career?

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Is this a team or a player?

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player.

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Hmmm.

It's gotta be a point guard, someone who took a lot of risks. Almost certainly someone with a lot of assists. I don't think it's Stockton...

I'll say Isiah Thomas.

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Just looked it up.

Wow.

Isiah Thomas is #4, with 3682 turnovers. The #1 player has nearly one thousand more.

Great question, Tube.

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Is it John Stockton then?

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21 points is a pretty good margin. That's 3 TD scores (at least). Obviously the team did not come back from the 3 scores and may have been more outplayed than that. What is a blowout? 4 TD scores? 5 TD scores?


5, any less then that and you have a decent chance of coming back within the last three minutes.

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So, by adding a 4th down, means that one down doesn't count . Are you in 2nd grade or something?


No, but it means a sack or short run still leaves you with options

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And with only 2 downs before punt or FG, you can't get those sustained drives which consist for running for 3, 4 yards every play. Those amazing drives that eat up the clock and destroy the defense. What a shame losing that is .


you still have them, they just consist of 7 or 8 yard passes instead.

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Well, I'm guessing it has to be someone with a long career. Just guessing, but Robert Parrish?

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You're on the right track, Plato.

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I'm guessing Jordan or Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (because of the 'shock' factor ).

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5, any less then that and you have a decent chance of coming back within the last three minutes.


Decent chance of coming back from 4 TDs down in the last three minutes?! And you wonder why the NFL has far more viewers!! What sillyness!

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No, but it means a sack or short run still leaves you with options


YES, the way it should be! It's utterly silly to have a sack or short run totally destroy a drive if it is on 1st down.

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you still have them, they just consist of 7 or 8 yard passes instead.


If you notice, I was talking about drives with 3-4 yard runs. Hardnose, smash mouth football.

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No one yet? 2 people have been close.

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Decent chance of coming back from 4 TDs down in the last three minutes?! And you wonder why the NFL has far more viewers!! What sillyness!


Well, you have a decent chance if you're the Indianapolis Colts, but for most football teams, you're right, it's a bit out of the question

As for 3 downs vs. 4 downs, 4 downs is the best for the NFL game.

Let's consider that fields are far more wide open in the CFL. I mean, if Martz was a head coach in the CFL, his 15 yard out routes would be the equivilent of a 5 yard hook. So, you only need 2 downs to make it worthwhile, otherwise people like Martz could have Chris Chandler wth a massive passer rating.

As for 4 downs, the NFL game is different. Things aren't as stretched out, and you need to attack the inside with more developed plays because there is less room for error. 1st and 2nd down are your wildcard downs. Do what you like, conservative or aggressive. Because of the tighter fields, you need to be less aggressive in order to keep turnovers to a minimum. Ball control, few mistakes, and intelligent play against the opponent is the key to a successful NFL drive, and because the NFL is inherently more conservative than the CFL, you will see closer games, and less scoring, because there is less room for error.

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