28-02-2005 09:41									#61
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Oh, BS! Some treacly disease-of-the-week movie beats out The Aviator? Gimme-a-break!

	28-02-2005 09:42									#62
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MDB was a great movie!!

I didn't vote for it because I made my picks before I saw the movie. I guess I could have changed my picks, but I really didn't give a ****.

	28-02-2005 09:42									#63
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Scorcese got the shaft yet again!

	28-02-2005 09:44									#64
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No ****, Bipolar!

	28-02-2005 09:46									#65
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well that's that. I love the T2 music by the orchestra. One of my favourite movies.

	28-02-2005 10:35									#66
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Jaime Foxx's speech was great.

It says a lot about the Academy when you can accurately predict at least 7 out of the 8 major awards. I was hoping for at least one upset (such as Kate Winslet or Thomas Hayden Church). Ah well...

Oh, and Scorcese was robbed...yet again. Eastwood would've won any other year but last year for Mystic River, and this was just the Academy making amends. But Scorcese's got at least a good 10 years left, if he keeps his health.

Oh yeah, and can we give whoever thought we needed BeyonceX3 on our TV tonight deserves a Russell Crowe punch in the chin.

	28-02-2005 11:01									#67
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Well it isn't like The Aviator was Scorcese's best work. Perhaps he was deserving of Gangs of New York, but not this year. Glad MDB won though. Good flick.

	28-02-2005 11:03									#68
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Not too sure how the Academy can make "amends" to one director already with an Oscar (for both Directing and Picture) over making "amends" to an even greater director who doesn't have an Oscar in either category.

	28-02-2005 11:04									#69
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get this. maybe they don't make amends at all, but actually vote for the film or actor most deserving.

	28-02-2005 11:06									#70
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui Well it isn't like The Aviator was Scorcese's best work. Perhaps he was deserving of Gangs of New York, but not this year. Glad MDB won though. Good flick.

Gangs of New York was an unqualified mess, with noted film historian Peter Biskind calling it Scorcese's Heaven's Gate. The Aviator was a much better film, though it wasn't perfect and was not his best. I thought The Aviator was the best live-action movie I saw all year.

And more - it was better than Million Dollar Baby.

	28-02-2005 11:07									#71
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident get this. maybe they don't make amends at all, but actually vote for the film or actor most deserving.

Last year proves the lie to that argument.

	28-02-2005 11:17									#72
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Btw, Laura and I saw Sideways today and found it totally unworthy of its B. Picture nomination, especially in a year with The Incredibles, Fahrenheit 9/11, and even Passion of the Christ in it. Sorry, Sideways, but I declare you to be Unworthy. You're not even 1/4 the film that Election was.

	28-02-2005 11:40									#73
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quote: And more - it was better than Million Dollar Baby.

Perhaps this isn't the best argument, but IMDB ratings:

Million Dollar Baby - 8.4 (#103 in IMDB's top 250)
Aviator - 7.6 (not in the Top 250)

Rotten Tomatoes:

Million Dollar Baby - 92% Fresh (95% - Cream of the Crop, 8.6/10 - average rating)
Aviator - 89% Fresh (81% - Cream of the Crop, 7.5/10 - average rating)

	28-02-2005 11:42									#74
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Oh, and speaking of Sideways:

Rotten Tomatoes:
96% Fresh (97% - Cream of the Crop, 8.7/10 - average rating)

IMDB:
8.1 (#188 in Top 250)

Sooo... Sideways seems to have more than a little of a claim to be where it was .

	28-02-2005 11:59									#75
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that proves it.

Imran is right, JohnT is wrong.

	28-02-2005 12:32									#76
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JohnT is always wrong, he just has to wait for his wife to tell him so.

	28-02-2005 18:41									#77
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I stand by what I said, even if Imrans pathetic attempts to pander to the lowest common denominator (IMDB?) somehow "disproves" my opinions.

	28-02-2005 18:45									#78
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no way, sideways was superior in many aspects to some movies, totally worthy, HOWEVER I'm not sure if it would have been worthy of Oscars. Nomination? absolutely. I would have given the best direction to Sideways. Or Aviator. DEFINITELY NOT MDB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

	28-02-2005 19:33									#79
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident get this. maybe they don't make amends at all, but actually vote for the film or actor most deserving.

Yeah, and that's why Return of the King won

	01-03-2005 03:39									#80
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the 'lord of the rings' movie trilogy is absolutely great and 'return of the king' deserved every one of the 11 oscars it got.

	01-03-2005 03:51									#81
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Atleast the man child defrapio didn't win.

I have a hard time not seeing him as the kid from Gilber Grape

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In the closest pool I've ever seen, congratulations to Alex!

Alex - 127
joncha - 126
The Emperor Fabulous - 125
reismark - 123
gjramsey - 90
Kassiopeia - 86
Japher - 83
Pekka - 79
Berzerker - 78
JohnT - 73
Dissident - 50

Please let me know if there are any errors in your scores (since I did this manually). The point values are as follows:

quote: 1. C - 16 2. A - 14 3. E - 8 4. D - 10 5. D - 12 6. A - 18 7. B - 6 8. D - 8 9. B - 8 10. D - 12 11. D - 12 12. E - 14 13. B - 9 14. C - 12 15. B - 18 16. B - 6 17. B - 12 18. A - 9 19. A - 1 20. E - 11 21. A - 10 22. D - 12 23. D - 8 24. E - 10

	01-03-2005 04:48									#83
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Having seen all five nominees for best flick, I certainly thought that MDB was a better movie than the Aviator.

As for Scorsece, lets him manke another great movie, and then maybe he will win an Oscar. If not, he will get a lifetime one.

Plenty of good people never got an oscar. Heck, Kubrick never got one, and died before they gave him a lifetime one.

	01-03-2005 04:49									#84
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quote: Originally posted by Alex the 'lord of the rings' movie trilogy is absolutely great and 'return of the king' deserved every one of the 11 oscars it got.

No it didn't .

	01-03-2005 05:14									#85
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woohoo, I have won!!! even having three wrong guesses in the main categories!

	01-03-2005 05:15									#86
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oh, imran, you're such a loser.

	01-03-2005 05:32									#87
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Alex: Is that you beating me with a hammer?

I think I placed third last year as well.

	01-03-2005 09:56									#88
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uggh, last place. I should have changed my votes to MDB after I seen the movie. I walked away knowing that was a great movie. Before I saw it I figured they'd give it to Sorcese to make up for the past.

	02-03-2005 11:16									#89
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Wow. I did amazingly well.