07-02-2005 03:33									#31
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It comes from The Story of English.

	07-02-2005 03:33									#32
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quote: Originally posted by loinburger YOU THINK YOU'RE BETTER THAN ME???

On the contrary, I feel I would not be able to learn each word to twimes: how to pronounce it, how to write it. I am unworthy against any english-speaker

I know you are kidding

	07-02-2005 03:35									#33
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quote: Originally posted by yaroslav I had always wondered why other languages are not that way. And, please, don't take it as an attack against the English, please. I have learned to love this language, although I am very bad at it.

English was one of the earliest to have its spelling standardized in dictionaries, and ever since then the pronunciation has been drifting away from where it had been three centuries ago.

Other languages have either regularly revised the official spellings or have had a habit of landing like a sack of bricks on anyone who mispronounces a word.

	07-02-2005 03:37									#34
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara It comes from The Story of English.

I think I can find sources for the size of the official dictionary (RAE), but probably they will be in Spanish. For instance, in our last official language we got more than 10,000 new words, and please, keep in mind that the official language is very slow when reacting again changes in the language, beacuse a new word need to be mainstream to be added to the dictionary. An there is a new edition each 3 or 4 years, so that's a lot of words for a short spwan

BTW, just for english speakers, many of the latter added words are of english origin, or new values for old words that have a common latin root in English and Spanish.

For instance, to ignore in Spanish is "to not know", but it has got the meaning of "not paying attention to a thing/a person, purposely" from the English language (IIRC), like in the sentence

"I am ignoring her to make her suffer"

Just an example of that my post is not against English, but only to point out my surprise

	07-02-2005 03:38									#35
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quote: Originally posted by Jaguar It's "Ed-you-kay-tion"

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	07-02-2005 03:40									#36
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara Because English is a polyglot lanugage. Our linguistic sources are: Latin, German, French, Celtic, Norse, etc. In addition, whenever we see a word in another language we like, we take it. English has the largest vocabulary of any language in the world, over half a million different words, not including scientifical and trade jargon. Spanish only has 200,000 words, by comparison.

Actually English is very inefficient that way. You need more words to say the same thing.

	07-02-2005 03:41									#37
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Just after checking, it appears that there were 9 years between the two last official dictionaries, so I retreat my stament. 10,000 new words in near 10 years is not as much. Sorry for the follow-up.

St Leo, the first "official" spanish dictionary is from 1711.

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BTW, I am heading towards bed, sorry for breaking this interesting debate, I will try to follow tomorrow. Thanks all for enligthing me about English and its wonder

(I have learned more popular, slang English here that in any other place )

	07-02-2005 03:43									#39
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quote: Originally posted by yaroslav (I have learned more popular, slang English here that in any other place )

Fair warning: "Hereuntoforthwith" has not yet caught on as a popular slang English experession. We're still working on that.

	07-02-2005 03:44									#40
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It's a dialectal thing. "Ejucation" is probably the commoner pronunciation in the good ol' US of A.

Saying that either usage makes you stupid is bigotted idiocy.

	07-02-2005 04:01									#41
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Actually using the j sound is much easier, so smarter people must do it. I've never heard anyone use the d sound.

	07-02-2005 04:10									#42
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Do you also say Ejward instead of Edward and Ejify instead of Edify?

(Admittedly, I do pronounce Edge with a 'j'.)

	07-02-2005 04:14									#43
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no, when we were getting off a crowded bus for phyiscs day we noticed another door near us, and read the sign and opened said door with the instructions. Then we commented that our 12 years of edjubacation paid off.

	07-02-2005 04:16									#44
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quote: Originally posted by St Leo Do you also say Ejward instead of Edward and Ejify instead of Edify? (Admittedly, I do pronounce Edge with a 'j'.)

Ejward does not roll off the tongue. Ejucation does.

	07-02-2005 05:20									#45
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Solution: Make the e silent. Du-kay-tion .

	07-02-2005 06:14									#46
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Well the correct pronunciation is a 'j' sound...

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=education

Look at the pronunciation key...

	07-02-2005 06:20									#47
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quote: Am I teh stupid for pronouncing education "ejucation"?

Only if you pronounce the "cation" phonetically as well.

Edge-u-cation

	07-02-2005 06:23									#48
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Cation? Like how you would pronounce it in chemistry?

	07-02-2005 08:45									#49
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Ejaculation

	07-02-2005 08:55									#50
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you teh stupid

	07-02-2005 09:12									#51
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quote: Originally posted by loinburger I mean, isn't the 'd' supposed to be pronounced as a 'j'?

Ejucation looks a lot like ejaculation, in my own twisted mind.