07-02-2005 21:43									#91
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui quote: Oh c'mon dude, don't tell me I needed to add a smiley. I didn't know which one you were talking about. We have loads of crappy films that reference holidays .

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	07-02-2005 21:43									#92
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quote: Originally posted by DanS Most areas of the US aren't expensive living.

That's because most areas of the U.S. aren't worth living in.

	07-02-2005 21:59									#93
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I think most areas of the US are nice places in which to live. They offer a lot, even though you personally may not prefer what they offer. To be clear, I don't prefer what these places offer either at this stage in my life, so I don't live there.

	07-02-2005 22:28									#94
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quote: Originally posted by Starchild A mindless, boring job for less than £20,000 a year and a laughable (but very american) 2 weeks of holiday? You're kidding me right?

Oh, i missed the two weeks holiday cr@p.

No way on Gods earth would I take a job that only gave two weeks holiday a year, five weeks is minimum plus two weeks paid sick (which I'll take whether I'm ill or not)

	07-02-2005 22:33									#95
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quote: Originally posted by DanS I think most areas of the US are nice places in which to live.

I couldn't dispute that even if I wanted to. Most places I've visted I've liked. Even Jacksonville, which I didn't like, had its strong points.

quote: They offer a lot, even though you personally may not prefer what they offer. To be clear, I don't prefer what these places offer either at this stage in my life, so I don't live there.

They don't offer a lot of jobs, and that's a necessity.

	07-02-2005 22:36									#96
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quote: Originally posted by reds4ever Oh, i missed the two weeks holiday cr@p. No way on Gods earth would I take a job that only gave two weeks holiday a year, five weeks is minimum plus two weeks paid sick (which I'll take whether I'm ill or not)

see its folks like you that then complain when they really get sick and have no sick leave left--

But I agree that 2 weeks holidays is pathetic

Here people seem to get 3-6 weeks and during the 10 days of Stampede, most people find that their job duties involve free breakfast, attending the rodeo and getting generally drunk at party after party

	07-02-2005 22:40									#97
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quote: (which I'll take whether I'm ill or not)

* sigh *

You still - after all those years - haven't caught on, have you.

When you're sick, you go to work. you're boss is happy and impressed.
Now, when you call in sick - which you're not - boss-man will assume you MUST be half-dead, otherwise you certainly would have shown up.

	07-02-2005 22:44									#98
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quote: Originally posted by alva quote: (which I'll take whether I'm ill or not) * sigh * You still - after all those years - haven't caught on, have you. When you're sick, you go to work. you're boss is happy and impressed. Now, when you call in sick - which you're not - boss-man will assume you MUST be half-dead, otherwise you certainly would have shown up.

Believe me thats my tactic, sick leave is for stuff like decorating the house, stuff you need to do but don't want to waste holidays on.

Sick leave is wasted if you are actually sick!

	08-02-2005 00:07									#99
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quote: Originally posted by reds4ever Believe me thats my tactic, sick leave is for stuff like decorating the house, stuff you need to do but don't want to waste holidays on. Sick leave is wasted if you are actually sick!

But it truly sucks when you have none left at all and something happens where you can't possibly go to work-- Do you really want to be off without pay ??

	08-02-2005 00:21									#100
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I took my first sick day in about a year on Friday.

	08-02-2005 01:06									#101
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Let's see, I'm close to the parameters in this thread...

At the same job since 1986.

- 40K...check - (in fact I have been flatlined on this figure for the past 8-10 years and I do not think that figure will rise much in the future).

- 40 hours a week...check - (occasional OT this past year brought me to 46K, which was a first for me)

- Boring...check - (a lot of button-pushing punctuated by occasional 'real' design work) Hey, I have on average 2-3 hours of actual work a day, leaving me the rest of the time to surf, read, and doze off. Certainly not a challenge by any stretch of the imagination. (and surfing does get old...)

(and its somewhat ironic that people will push around hundreds of workers in a civ-style game and not call that boring)

- So I do get 3 weeks of vacation as well as paid holidays, but no sick days.

Bottom line - I'm happy with the situation. Low stress. Lots of free time.

I live in a $275,000 house in a middle-class Chicago suburb. I never go hungry. I have a nice family. And my wife makes less than 1/2 of what I do.

We budget and are careful with the cash. No really nice vacations to speak of and we do not get out all that much, but that's OK.

Heck, I'm richer than 95% of the rest of the world. I live in a country that is blessed with prosperity. And when I lived in my previous house with the leaking roof, and cold and small rooms, I felt blessed too.

It's all a matter of perspective...

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	08-02-2005 01:32									#102
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Hel, I'm not even employrd, seeing as I'm studying my AS levels ATM, but I still would not bother if I was offered that sort of job. I would like the challenge of a difficult job, so long as I understood what sort of job I could get if and when I finished my education.

Ah, chemistry, so many oppurtunities...

	08-02-2005 02:16									#103
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sure. as long as its an easy job. 40k a year for 40 easy hours a week. maybe a porn star. or a game tester. or maybe a bed tester.

	08-02-2005 02:49									#104
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As others have said, I don't think a pay cut and longer hours would really be my permanent career ambition.

	08-02-2005 02:51									#105
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quote: Originally posted by Kuciwalker Actuaries make a hell of a lot more than 40k a year

Actuaries (seem to) have a charge out rate a hell of a lote more than 40k a day.

	08-02-2005 02:59									#106
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If the pay were $100,000, would any of you then accept?

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quote: Originally posted by Dauphin Actuaries (seem to) have a charge out rate a hell of a lote more than 40k a day.

If they work all 24 ours, probably

	08-02-2005 03:44									#108
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quote: Originally posted by Drogue If the pay were $100,000, would any of you then accept?

Nope. If money is the objective, again, it's very possible to make that...even 4-5 times as much per year with willpower and some luck.

Many small businesses, even five or less employees, can clear 100K after taxes.

If the objective is security, starting your own business is hardly without risk.

	08-02-2005 04:39									#109
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quote: Originally posted by Drogue If the pay were $100,000, would any of you then accept?

Now we're talking

	08-02-2005 04:53									#110
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I'm lazy and greedy so no!!

	08-02-2005 07:11									#111
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quote: 15 Aug is the somewhat more obscure Feast of the Assumption when Mary is supposed to have died (but didn't quite die, instead was "assumed" into heaven). "I'm not dead!"

Yeah, just like Elijah.

Nothing strange about that.

	08-02-2005 07:17									#112
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quote: Originally posted by Drogue If the pay were $100,000, would any of you then accept?

Try higher.

	08-02-2005 07:23									#113
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You'd have to take some out of that for the sick I'd lose getting a decent amount of holiday