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Boris Godunov
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Portland, OR
Aug 2001 time: 00:22
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident
the usefulness of police forces is debatable. NYC has the highest number, but they also have high crime, and a very high population. Imagine how bad it'd be if they had half the number of police.
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You don't know what you're talking about. Compared to other large cities, NYC has a low crime rate, esp. violent crime. It is, in fact, one of the safest big cities. A recent FBI report on crime nationwide ranked New York’s serious crime rate #203 of the 216 U.S. cities with a population of at least 100,000, and NYC is the safest of the top 25 largest U.S. cities.
And while I wouldn't attribute it solely to the police, I have to acknowledge the police is vastly responsible for the decrease in crime in NYC since the 1970s (it has been a steady downward trend). Huge police initiatives have been launched to clean up bad neighborhoods, and they have been successful. I'm not an authoritarian type of guy, but having lived in NY for 5 years, I cannot deny that the police were integral in reducing the crime rate.
Last edited by Boris Godunov on 25-02-2005 at 07:00
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Elok
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Land of Ramen Dragons
Mar 2003 time: 00:22
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quote: Originally posted by Azazel
I mean many of the general ideas he presented on life and society, although they weren't put in good words. His revisionism is boring, and stupid, but that's always the case with revisionism. The fact that he presents it in a very poor fashion doesn't make the ideology flawed ( there are other thing that do this ). It's like using fez' posts to "prove" that capitalism, and esp. it's more extreme parts are wrong and smuggly going "hur hur hur" over the fake victory. |
I'm not sure that anyone was going after communism directly, at least not yet. The MIM's particular version of it provides more than enough fodder for mockery without going after a target like Marx that's defensible.
I'm mostly just puzzled by your attitude towards these people who share your ideals just enough to make you look bad. Imagine if some guy were to stand up and tell people, say, that pederasty is wrong, and then go on to refer to the aliens who beamed prophecies about its wrongness into his brain from their base on the moon. I would note the validity of some of his points by my estimation, if it came to that, but I wouldn't rush to defend his philosophy as a whole on the basis of the very general points we happened to agree on.
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Las Vegas, Nevada
Feb 2000 time: 21:22
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quote: Originally posted by Boris Godunov
You don't know what you're talking about. Compared to other large cities, NYC has a low crime rate, esp. violent crime. It is, in fact, one of the safest big cities. A recent FBI report on crime nationwide ranked New York’s serious crime rate #203 of the 216 U.S. cities with a population of at least 100,000, and NYC is the safest of the top 25 largest U.S. cities.
And while I wouldn't attribute it solely to the police, I have to acknowledge the police is vastly responsible for the decrease in crime in NYC since the 1970s (it has been a steady downward trend). Huge police initiatives have been launched to clean up bad neighborhoods, and they have been successful. I'm not an authoritarian type of guy, but having lived in NY for 5 years, I cannot deny that the police were integral in reducing the crime rate. |
you are missing the second part of my post. I'm simply agreeing that the police forces do work.
And by high crime, I'm talking about raw numbers because of the high population. It's going to have more crime simply because it has more population. But imagine if you had half the police forces you have now. I'm sure you'd have more crime problems.
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