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evil conservatives.


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The worls is full of small minded *******s Who gives a **** what she wears.

Small minded liberals who think all conservatives are nazis

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Are there any such dress codes that bar women from wearing shirts and jackets?

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What if she had been a christian who refused to wear the dress because she said it was unchristian to show cleavage? I doubt we'd be accusing the school of discrimination. In fact, some would probably be making fun of her for being a prude.


Yep, some kids at school would make fun of her. Then the media -- especially Fox -- would show up to lionize her, declaring her the true voice of American youth. She'd be all over the national media for days, along with smug Christian pundits defending her against non-existant attacks. Her picture, in her demure dress, would be continually juxtaposed with pictures of Christine Aguilara, driving home a point so obvious it doesn't need articulation. The more hysterical conservative columnists -- think Cal Thomas -- would begin comparing her to the alleged "Christian martyr" of Columbine. Eventually, at a press conference, President Bush would be tossed a soft-ball question about the controversy, which he would use as an opportunity to praise her faith, denegrate teacher's unions, and promote abstinence-only sex education and No Child Left Behind. And the picture would run.

Have you been living abroad? Or do you just not get how America works now?

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Her sexuality has nothing to do with anything!


True, in a way. This is not so much about sexuality as it is about cross-dressing. And, fundamentally, gender-bound clothing is silly, gender-bound dress codes are double silly, and this is all triple silly for female humans since they got the right to wear whatever they wish back in the 1920s.

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It's ****ing clothes. Jesus Christ, why is this (school's) administration so ****ing stupid?
They are not stupid. I now work at a Middle School and we have a dress code period. If you don't follow it, you are in trouble period. If you do follow it, everything is fine.
The girl could have worn a dress that was not low cut and no one would have been able to see her breast.

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It's against the law to mandate that women wear dresses.

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It's against the law to mandate that women wear dresses.


But it isn't (unless you are in California) to say they can't wear pants. Especially when the men are required to wear suits.

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California

Social conventions are just deep rooted discrimination.

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Anyway, why don't they just crop the photos at the neck? The face is the main function of the book anyway.

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This is another reason I am against school uniforms, the female uniform almost invariably consists of a skirt, and forcing people to conform to culturally imposed dress expectations is wrong.

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Social conventions are just deep rooted discrimination.


Don't say that too loud. A year back (or so), I mentioned that a policy mandating skirts or dresses (ie, no pants) for women was sexist and nearly got my head ripped off by the people here.

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Social conventions are just deep rooted discrimination.


Don't say that too loud. A year back (or so), I mentioned that a policy mandating skirts or dresses (ie, no pants) for women was sexist and nearly got my head ripped off by the people here.


Thats Georgia, us yankees are much more civilized.

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Here meaning Poly, NOT Georgia.

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Here meaning Poly, NOT Georgia.

Well some people here are as dumb as I suspect people are in Georgia.

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But it isn't (unless you are in California) to say they can't wear pants. Especially when the men are required to wear suits.


This is a public school and it wasn't a school uniform.

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This is a public school and it wasn't a school uniform.


You said 'women', not 'girls'

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Yep, some kids at school would make fun of her. Then the media -- especially Fox -- would show up to lionize her, declaring her the true voice of American youth. She'd be all over the national media for days, along with smug Christian pundits defending her against non-existant attacks. Her picture, in her demure dress, would be continually juxtaposed with pictures of Christine Aguilara, driving home a point so obvious it doesn't need articulation. The more hysterical conservative columnists -- think Cal Thomas -- would begin comparing her to the alleged "Christian martyr" of Columbine. Eventually, at a press conference, President Bush would be tossed a soft-ball question about the controversy, which he would use as an opportunity to praise her faith, denegrate teacher's unions, and promote abstinence-only sex education and No Child Left Behind. And the picture would run.

Have you been living abroad? Or do you just not get how America works now?

Teh Rufus pwns all!!!

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It's obvious none of this hatred has anything to do with the sanctity of marriage.

Conservatives hate gay people. Plain and simple. Not all of them do, but I'm willing to bet most people do.



Some of them will admit it, others will try and sugarcoat it.

The worst is the bible bashers that say, "don't hate the gay person, hate their gayness."

okay!

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I thought Rufus was living abroad...

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This is another reason I am against school uniforms, the female uniform almost invariably consists of a skirt, and forcing people to conform to culturally imposed dress expectations is wrong.

The male uniform not merely almost invariably consists of a pair of trousers. How is that any more or less wrong?

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Heck, even tubgirl wears a school uniform.

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Yep, some kids at school would make fun of her. Then the media -- especially Fox -- would show up to lionize her, declaring her the true voice of American youth. She'd be all over the national media for days, along with smug Christian pundits defending her against non-existant attacks. Her picture, in her demure dress, would be continually juxtaposed with pictures of Christine Aguilara, driving home a point so obvious it doesn't need articulation. The more hysterical conservative columnists -- think Cal Thomas -- would begin comparing her to the alleged "Christian martyr" of Columbine. Eventually, at a press conference, President Bush would be tossed a soft-ball question about the controversy, which he would use as an opportunity to praise her faith, denegrate teacher's unions, and promote abstinence-only sex education and No Child Left Behind. And the picture would run.

Have you been living abroad? Or do you just not get how America works now?


Bravo!

(I see someone else beat me to the punch, but this passage was good enough to merit a second re-quoting)

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They are not stupid. I now work at a Middle School and we have a dress code period. If you don't follow it, you are in trouble period. If you do follow it, everything is fine.
The girl could have worn a dress that was not low cut and no one would have been able to see her breast.


Do you have a school dress code that requires females to wear a dress? Even here in the great state of Alabama the school dress codes dont require that certain clothes be worn, only what may not be worn (and that only applies to the type of clothing not who may wear it). Maybe the next step at this school will be to require that evil females wear a burka so that they dont show off their evil flesh.

I'm not opposed to dress codes at school (although I personally find the idea repugnant I accept that there are useful benefits). This is not a dress code, however, this is a type of school behaviour (some would label it religious while I label it nazi) that is all too common.

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Dunno.

On the one hand it seems to be silly to not allow her to be dressed on the photo this way.
On the other hand, if you allow this, you should also allow male transvestites to wear a skirt on photos for the yearbook

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Dress codes


Once in my life I was forced to wear such clothes she's wearing in that picture and it was like hell
Forcing people to wear clothes they hate to wear

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For all we know anyway, she could be wearing a skirt in that picture- it only shows the face and shoulders.

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Dress codes


Once in my life I was forced to wear such clothes she's wearing in that picture and it was like hell
Forcing people to wear clothes they hate to wear


The main reason I am against school uniforms is that it implants in a child's young mind that he/she will be punished if he/she does not conform.

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Dunno.

On the one hand it seems to be silly to not allow her to be dressed on the photo this way.
On the other hand, if you allow this, you should also allow male transvestites to wear a skirt on photos for the yearbook


yeah I got to admit there's a double standard here.

Normally it's acceptable for women to wear guys clothing. That's why I find this case so strange. But it's not acceptable for guys to wear women's clothing except in the name of comedy.

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After this I wonder if one of the guys at the school would rather wear a dress in the yearbook photo?

 
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