11-03-2005 08:46									#31
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quote: Originally posted by DrSpike Guild Wars takes this approach.

I had heard Guild Wars was interesting ... how is it in the gameplay department?

edit: oh yeah, it's in prerelease still Anyone beta'ed it? (Heck, anyone have a beta pass for the weekend of the 18th-20th this month that I can use? )

	11-03-2005 10:54									#32
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I think that in a few months time, WoW will be looking like a much more solid game. Many new things are being released for PVP, and questing, and they are making new servers as well. Sounds good.

	11-03-2005 12:51									#33
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quote: Originally posted by General Ludd There was a huge thread started as a petition when the game was released - it quickly became the largest and most replied to thread, even more-so than stickied blizzard threads. And all they did was lock it.

It had reached 500 posts, I reckon.

By the way, what I liked least in WoW is not the game itself, but the insane amount of kids in it. Feels like half of players or more are ten years old with ten minutes attention span at most and lots of immature habits.

	11-03-2005 13:12									#34
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stfu noob

	11-03-2005 14:08									#35
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Sounds familiar.

What server r u on?

	11-03-2005 14:24									#36
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Spikie likes WoW.
Ten-year-olds with a low attention span like WoW.

I'm sensing a theme here.

	11-03-2005 16:45									#37
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I don't know what he does here anyway, when my party killed him a while ago.

Probably respawned...

	11-03-2005 23:25									#38
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does WOW have any kind of single player game? Can you traverse outdoor areas without getting your ass beat to the ground by groups?

	11-03-2005 23:48									#39
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quote: Originally posted by Sir Ralph Sounds familiar. What server r u on?

Haven't got it yet. Will when I get time though.

	11-03-2005 23:49									#40
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quote: Originally posted by Sir Ralph I don't know what he does here anyway, when my party killed him a while ago. Probably respawned...

That was an impostor.

	11-03-2005 23:50									#41
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident does WOW have any kind of single player game? Can you traverse outdoor areas without getting your ass beat to the ground by groups?

It's a Massively Multiplayer game. If you want SP then play.........a SP game.

	12-03-2005 00:35									#42
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quote: Originally posted by DrSpike It's a Massively Multiplayer game. If you want SP then play.........a SP game.

naw, I still want the ability to kill other players if the mood strikes me. But I want to be a solo hunter-killer.

	12-03-2005 00:39									#43
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Griefer.

	12-03-2005 03:10									#44
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quote: Originally posted by DrSpike Griefer.

what is a griefer, exactly?

	12-03-2005 03:56									#45
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Some who gets their kicks by annoying others. On PvP servers they sometimes kill you just to be a pain, even when there is no advantage to them.

	12-03-2005 11:46									#46
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Or someone who kills you over and over and over despite the fact you are a level 10 farmer with leather armour and a wooden sword and they are a level 40 fighter with full magic plates and +4 sword of doom. And then doesn't even loot the money off your body.

	12-03-2005 14:19									#47
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I would never kill anybody over and over. Just once.

Actually I prefer to kill the annoying people, especially PK"ers. I PK PK'ers.

	12-03-2005 15:28									#48
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Pretty hard when they are level 50 and you haven't played a MMORPG for more than 1 month.

	12-03-2005 18:25									#49
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Ah... reminds me of the good ol' days of Shadowbane - hunting down flakachs that where trespassing on our territory and hiking north to stalk and kill dwarves for fun. And the desertlands. I rarely spent time there, but man, so many thieves and cut-throats - you really had to watch your back. If you want to survive there, you can't travel alone... unless maybe if you're a thief yourself.

Too bad it wasn't such a good game.

	12-03-2005 19:37									#50
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I don't really get the infatuation with PvP. I've been having a blast with CoH which thus far is only planning on adding arenas.

	12-03-2005 20:44									#51
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I have a 42 AR/Dev blaster on Victory. I'll finish levelling him when PvP is introduced properly in City of Villains.

	12-03-2005 21:05									#52
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Lvl 45 Energy/Energy Blaster on Virtue. Still exploring the Shadow Shard.

	13-03-2005 00:12									#53
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actually, I normally playe pve, only occasionally do I get the urge to kill greifers (and only if I can take them ).

	13-03-2005 00:40									#54
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quote: Originally posted by DinoDoc I don't really get the infatuation with PvP. I've been having a blast with CoH which thus far is only planning on adding arenas.

Some people like to match wits with an intelligent oponent, instead of killing hordes of mindless drones. Well I guess PvP can be like that too, sometimes.

	15-03-2005 15:35									#55
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Don't you have to pay a monthly or hourly fee to play this game?

	15-03-2005 16:46									#56
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Yes, these games have fees until they get a little old and have to start pulling stunts to attract new customers.

I loved EQ2 ut it became unplayable when I started heading into certain zones like Stormhold. Having to turn all the graphics off just to survive is not acceptable. I don't think WoW is a better game, but it looks great and plays smoothly on my PC. That has to win out.

	15-03-2005 19:24									#57
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Oerdin: One account costs about $15 a month. Most dedicated players, however, have at least 2.

Grumbold: Zones like Blackburrow and Stormhold are just the beginning, it's going to get significantly worse later in more difficult zones. You need a state of the art PC; forget what you read as "Minimal requirements" on the box. As I wrote above, 1 GB RAM, 3 GHz speed, an up-to-date 3D-adapter and either cable or DSL is the minimum you should have to enjoy Everquest II. I play it at 1600 x 1200 practically lagfree, even in zones as heavy as Stormhold or Blackburrow. In the last two weeks I was on three raids in Cauldron Hollow (a mid-30 level raid instance) with four full groups (24 players) and up to 6-8 mobs fighting at the same time and my computer with the above stats handled it just fine.

	16-03-2005 00:43									#58
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Why do you need 2? Only reasons I can see are character limits (like FFXI) or being able to log in two chars at once (like Eve).

	16-03-2005 01:00									#59
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quote: Originally posted by DrSpike Why do you need 2? Only reasons I can see are character limits (like FFXI) or being able to log in two chars at once (like Eve).

Most people who have two accounts have them for both those reasons, but primarily so that they can have two characters logged in at once. Remember that the vast majority of people who play MMORPGs are anti-social geeks - they like to play with themselves.

Plus, they can use it to exploit the game mechanics and make buffbots or nukebots that would be basically unplayable except as a second character. There was someone in DAoC who had 8 accounts, and had it rigged so that all his characters could act in synchrony with a single command.

	16-03-2005 01:28									#60
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But is that the case in EQ2? Some games make it easier than others to play 2 accounts. In Eve it's very easy, you can split the screen.