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Ite ad inferno.
Imperative case - Go to hell.
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Lundenwic
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Originally posted by Saras
These lines bring back the memories of performing Mozart's requiem in Meteora, Greece, in a shooting of a film to commemorate W.A.Mozart's 200th death (don't ask) anniversary.
What's your personal beef with tories anyway? |
Let's see: Margaret Thatcher was first elected Prime Minister on the evening I went to see Roxy Music's reunion Manifesto Tour concert in Birmingham. I returned home to find that the British equivalent of Kali was now in charge.
Many years later, having suffered the worst unemployment since the Great Depression, the most unpopular prime minister since WWII, urban decay, race riots, the sell off of most of the nation's assets and privatization of everything bar the atmosphere, record levels of homelessness, censorship on an unprecedented scale in the 20th Century outside of wartime, institutionalized government racism and homophobia, we eventually ended up with Tony Blair.
When Blair is a better option than what has gone before, the alternative must have been bad.
As you may be aware from having grown up behind the Iron Curtain, Thatcher was very fond of spouting off about government repression, censorship and freedom for unions. But only when these problems were far away, in Poland, Soviet Russia, East Germany or China.
At home, it was a very different matter.
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Vilnius, Lithuania
Apr 1999
time: 06:36
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Originally posted by molly bloom
Take any renowned Lithuanian composer, painter, poet, novelist, songwriter, dancer from the past.
Imagine that they are replaced by the Pop Idol or Eurovision equivalent.
That's how today's bunch of non-entities compare with the glory days of cultured 19th Century High Toryism. I've read some of Disraeli's novels, listened to Churchill's oratory*, and read Burke's political works and speeches.
The current party are the dregs of the so-called 'Thatcherite Revolution' when she surrounded herself with lily-livered yes men and 'greige' nobodies. Michael Howard was one of them, and there are still a few of the garageiste 80s tendency too.
* Churchill is a 20th Century Tory aberration- his WWII stint overshadows his earlier disasters and later peacetime period as Prime Minister which was not terribly successful either. |
I have to admit I was sort-of agent-provocateuring a bit, to squeeze out one of your nicely phrased summaries. Thanks 
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molly bloom
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Lundenwic
Oct 2001
time: 15:36
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Who do you think signed the sanctions into law?!  |
Idiot right back at you. Think twice, 'cos it ain't all right:
' 1986:
30 demonstrators are killed in South Africa. South Africa attacks targets in Botswana, Zambia and Zimbabwe.
The USA Congress imposes economic sanctions on South Africa in spite of a veto by President Reagan. Only 25% of the trade between the two countries is affected. Iron, steel and uranium continue to be exported from South Africa. In the next two years, USA exports to South Africa increase from $ 1,280 million to $ 1,710 million.
Reagan's response to these atrocities was to resist economic sanctions against PW Botha's regime and to veto UN resolutions seeking to punish South Africa. The far-reaching US sanctions legislation, the Comprehensive Anti-Apartheid Act of 1986, was actually passed over a presidential veto. '
So sanctions work against Libya, China, Poland under martial law and Nicaragua & Cuba, but apparently not against South Africa.
Gee, I wonder why ?
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