14-03-2005 03:43									#121
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Perhaps Smiley forgot to mention there were two one-sides ones?

	14-03-2005 03:52									#122
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I did not expect LN-Hercules to be so one sided.


Chapter 4.8
Another One Down

quote: Here is something to think about The Chariot. Reversed: Defeat. Failure to assert self-discipline. Collapse of plans. Loss of control. Vengeance.

Quite a bit had happened- alliances were formed and dissolved, battles fought, ships built. When the dust had all settled, the galaxy was one overlord fewer.

	14-03-2005 04:14									#123
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Orders sent for round 5 from the Galactic Capital of New Constantinople.

Medals and concubines all round for my admirals.

-Jam

	14-03-2005 04:23									#124
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Silly question - if someone shields or spies to no effect, do we find out? IE if a player not attacked shields do we know he shielded, or do we get no info?

	14-03-2005 04:46									#125
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We get no info

	14-03-2005 04:47									#126
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quote: Originally posted by Jamski We get no info

Shut up you.

	14-03-2005 07:15									#128
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I sent the fixed up GUI to smiley ... I haven't a clue how to post the size of pics that he posts, perhaps it's an individual permission he got for doing this ...

	14-03-2005 07:40									#129
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The only way people find out about shields is when they attempt to send a ship through one.

	14-03-2005 08:26									#130
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Spies are always revealed when used. Shields only if something (a spy or a shield) encounters it.

Snoopy- As long as the image is <= 800 pixels & <=500 kb you ought to be able to post it. Save it as a .GIF and it ought to work.

Last edited by :) Smiley on 14-03-2005 at 11:51

	14-03-2005 09:29									#131
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So it can be 800x120000 essentially (and under 500kb)? I thought it was 800x600 Will do. But you should be able to do it, this time

	14-03-2005 10:41									#132
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A warning, though: If you do really make a 800x120000 graphic, there will definitely be people complaining about the excessive width of the page it causes...

	14-03-2005 11:50									#133
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800 is max width, there is no limit to height.

	14-03-2005 16:05									#134
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Well, the height is limited by the filesize of the actual image. Essentially though, you can have a very tall image. Whether that is a good thing...

And what a waste of a shield. I build one, and people just don't bother to impale themselves on it.

	14-03-2005 16:36									#135
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It's not possible to impale on shields which are build, only the ones which are used...

	14-03-2005 17:03									#136
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Orders in.

EDIT: Precisely.

	15-03-2005 03:30									#137
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Sent, BTW.

A note to ljube, Paddy, and Spaced Cowboy:

I am warning you now: I have put up my third and final shield. If you attack me and lose to my shield again, you will be the laughing stock of this game. So please, if you want to provide me with endless amusement, attack my shield a third time. Go on. I dare you.

	15-03-2005 03:42									#138
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nice one jaguar ...

	15-03-2005 05:12									#139
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O yes, orders sent a while ago... say hi, Jaguar.

	15-03-2005 08:39									#140
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orders send

	15-03-2005 09:13									#141
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OMG, Jaguar's pm box is full.....ah well....

*not that it is going to matter after having him largely taken out next turn*

Maybe it is time to anaylize attack-defense strategy pay off since we've enough combat for a good sample I think.

Oh, and LN, shields are the only form of effective defense in GO.

	15-03-2005 09:15									#142
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Thanks Moron, however, your evil Finnish plan failed, and I am still alive.

	15-03-2005 09:19									#143
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Well, taking out 80% of production capacity is petty good.

Though giving it to jamski is kinda :scary:

	15-03-2005 09:21									#144
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What's Kassiopeia got to do with this ?

Orders not yet sent..........because i have a question

Suppose the game has say........15 players left, including an alliance of DrSpike and GeneralTacticus, plus Whoha and Thiben (among others).

If DrSpike and GeneralTacticus agree on an allied attack against Thebun but GeneralTacticus sends in his orders 1st of the 15 players, and DrSpike sends in his orders last of the 15 players and Whoha also attacks Theeben but sends in his orders 7th out of 15, which attack would be processed first?

Whoha versus Theban
Then
DrSpike/GeneralTacticus versus the survivor of Whoha/Teeben

OR

DrSpike/GeneralTacticus versus Thebeen
Then
Whoha versus the survivor(s)??


Not that it matters, I just don't understand the LIFO system of attacks

* Sparrowhawk

Edit: and no it is not a coincidence that I choose for everyone to attack Theben in the above example but I did deliberately choose players not in this game

	15-03-2005 09:23									#145
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Sent.

	15-03-2005 09:27									#146
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Sparrow, I would assume that the alliance attack is considered complete when the last ally sends in their orders.

So if ally A1 sends first, then other person B sends second, then Ally A2 sends third, the attack goes

Allies A1+A2 <> Defender C
then if A1+A2 win and B "attacks all comers",
A1+A2 <> B
or
B <> Defender C (if C beats A1+A2).

Smiley/Jamski would have to confirm, however.

	15-03-2005 09:42									#147
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The current setup, btw.

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	15-03-2005 09:59									#148
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hmmmm....sparrowhawk appears to have been peaceful green life for a long time.......while only having 5 bases.....

*sniff sniff*

	15-03-2005 10:37									#149
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Well, that is after all the policy of the peaceful Cosmos Stardust ...

While Polly Siffan just needs some more space to entertain in. That, and continue my experiments. (Social experiments, if you must ask.)

	15-03-2005 12:33									#150
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10/15
Waiting for:
Kass
Paddy
Lord Nuclear
Spaced Cowboy
Ljube

hmmm.....

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About the last-in, first-out system:
This system was devised I believe to give those who send orders in early an advantage, especially since the "attack anyone who's there" tactic was introduced midway through GO I.

With alliances, the last ally to send is the one that matters. Thus, DrSpiek and GT would fight first.

With order revisions, changes to OoB or ships being sent don't effect the sequence. This is mostly because I on average have to make about 4 to 6 clarifications per turn and keeping tabs on everything would be far too messy. The number is only reset to the end when a new target is specified, or when an alliance is formed.

In case you wonder what my end of the interface looks like, this is the attack data from the last round (#4). 1 is the first to send, the highest number the last to send.

Note that I don't process the turn in the same sequence as orders are sent, only with multiple attackers on one target are the numbers put to use.

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