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Errr, sorry, this is London, not Dodge City. |
Organized crime doesnt discriminate.
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Could we please have your experience of disarming axe-wielding maniacs, with or without a partner to help you? |
None, but I wouldnt sit on my ass and watch another person get hacked to bits.
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Which still doesn't support your comment about building site foremen in London having guns lying around.
Welcome to a country which has gun laws.
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I dont know about over there but over here organized crime frequently uses construction sites for a number of things.
Gun laws are as effective as locking your front door when you leave your house. If someone wants a gun they can get one.
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Gun crime has risen by 35% in a year, new Home Office figures show.
There were 9,974 incidents involving firearms in the 12 months to April 2002 - a rise from 7,362 over the previous year.
That represents an average of 27 offences involving firearms every day in England and Wales, with guns fired in nearly a quarter of cases. |
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/2640817.stm
Its not recent but it proves my point
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No, it doesn't. You've gone from assuming that building sites in the United Kingdom are run by organized crime and therefore routinely have guns lying around, to now stating that anyone over here who wants a gun can find one. |
My comment was "If it is a crooked operation..." I never said that it absolutely was.
You were the one who implied that because of the gun laws in the UK no can get a gun.
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Tell me then, where do you suggest I start in equipping myself with an illegal weapon ?
I live in East London, perhaps you can tell me the nearest outlet for illegal firearms close to me, or who to contact. |
Go out and ask the right people, I dont live there so I couldnt tell you who they are.
Assault rifles and pistol silencers are illegal here in the states, I cant walk out my door and get one in less than an hour.
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I reckon there's a good chance this is a landlord/tenant dispute...
... 'cos when I was living in London, the thought of taking an axe to my landlord was very powerful indeed.
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Britain -- Parliament increasingly has given the police power to stop and search vehicles as well as pedestrians. Police may arrest any person they "reasonably" suspect supports an illegal organization. The grand jury, an ancient common law institution, was abolished in 1933. Civil jury trials have been abolished in all cases except libel, and criminal jury trials are rare. . . . While America has the Miranda rules, Britain allows police to interrogate suspects who have asked that interrogation stop, and allows the police to keep defense lawyers away from suspects under interrogation for limited periods. Britain allows evidence which has been derived from a coerced confession to be used in court. Wiretaps do not need judicial approval and it is unlawful in a British court to point out the fact that a police wiretap was illegal." (Kopel, 1992, pp. 101-102.)
Recently, London law enforcement authorities began installing cameras overlooking selected intersections in the city`s business district, to observe passers-by on the sidewalks. The British Home Office has introduced "`Anti-Social Behaviour Orders` -- special court orders intended to deal with people who cannot be proven to have committed a crime, but whom the police want to restrict anyway. Behaviour Orders can, among other things, prohibit a person from visiting a particular street or premises, set a curfew or lead to a person`s eviction from his home. Violation of a Behaviour Order can carry a prison sentence of up to five years. Prime Minister Tony Blair is now proposing that the government be allowed to confine people proactively, based on fears of their potential danger to society." (Kopel, et al., 2001, p. 27.)
"The British government frequently bans books on national security grounds. In addition, England`s libel laws tend to favor those who bring suit against a free press. Prior restraint of speech in the United States is allowed only in the most urgent of circumstances. In England, the government may apply for a prior restraint of speech ex parte, asking a court to censor a newspaper without the newspaper even having notice or the opportunity to present an argument. . . . Free speech in Great Britain is also constrained by the Official Secrets Act, which outlaws the unauthorized receipt of information from any government agency, and allows the government to forbid publication of any `secret` it pleases. . . . The act was expanded in 1920 and again in 1989 -- times when gun controls were also expanded." (Kopel, 1991, pp. 99-102.) |
http://www.nraila.org/Issues/FactSheets/Read.aspx?ID=78
 God bless America. I'll take dangerous gun filled ghettos over oppressive government any day.
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15-03-2005 19:35
Maybe I should go to Londond one day and attempt to buy an illegal firearm just for the fun of it. 
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