18-03-2005 00:35									#31
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I admit that I'm very overweight, but I believe that what is considered the "norm" in BMI is rediculous. I've seen many people who are MUCH more overweight than me.

	18-03-2005 00:36									#32
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The calculater states my bmi is 20.2

	18-03-2005 00:40									#33
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He must be.

90 pounds over my weight and close to the same height.

	18-03-2005 01:05									#34
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quote: Be honest in the poll, if your BMI is 25.1, you are overweight, it does not matter is your only .2 there.

77kg and 1.76m = 24.9
170 lb and 5' 9" = 25.1

Which should I use.

	18-03-2005 01:07									#35
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the one with the real units.

	18-03-2005 01:08									#36
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I am only overweight in America. How ironic.

	18-03-2005 01:10									#38
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I appear to be exactly the same height and weight as Dauphin. It's a weight I carry well.

	18-03-2005 01:11									#39
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21.9

Woohoo I'm normal.

First time for everyhting I guess.

	18-03-2005 01:13									#40
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Anyone know the actual SI formula for BMI? It seems to be a form of two-dimensional mass density (kg/m^2), so I'd guess something akin to m/A, though I wouldn't know about how exactly the height gets transformed into a unit of area instead. /shrug

	18-03-2005 01:13									#41
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21.7, but I'm still a little overweight. My waist is still pudgy, and I can't fit into pants I could when I was a teenager. Even 32's are a little tight for me. I used to wear 30 sized waist.

I did get down to 133 pounds last year after losing 50 pounds of weight, but I gained 10 pounds back.

	18-03-2005 01:17									#42
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quote: Originally posted by SpencerH Here's the problem with the BMI 5'7" 220lbs BMI 34.5 I'm not obese, or even 'chubby'. There's no account taken for muscle.

I'm going to have to pull the bullshit flag.

You are telling me you are 5'7" and 220 pounds!

You must be built like Arnold Swarchenegger was in the 70's then.

	18-03-2005 01:18									#43
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25.9 - slightly overweight

This test doesn't take into account age or ethnic differences. Older people tend to carry a bit more of a spread due to the forces of age and gravity.

	18-03-2005 01:19									#44
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	18-03-2005 01:20									#45
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quote: This test doesn't take into account age or ethnic differences. Older people tend to be fatter

yup.

	18-03-2005 01:20									#46
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident 21.7, but I'm still a little overweight. My waist is still pudgy, and I can't fit into pants I could when I was a teenager. Even 32's are a little tight for me. I used to wear 30 sized waist. I did get down to 133 pounds last year after losing 50 pounds of weight, but I gained 10 pounds back.

You must have limbs like twigs. At a BMI of 25, I've got a 32 inch waist. Then again, I'm built like an orang-utan.

	18-03-2005 01:22									#47
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this test will give accurate results for 95% percent of all people. only pro athletes and stuff will have problems, as those who are buffed up. however, being that buff cant be good for you (if youre 5ft 8, 215, even if its all muscle, that cant be good for you)

	18-03-2005 01:24									#48
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident I'm going to have to pull the bullshit flag. You are telling me you are 5'7" and 220 pounds! You must be built like Arnold Swarchenegger was in the 70's then.

There is an element of truth there though...I am the same height and weigh about 200 now...when I used to weigh 140 at this height I looked emaciated and that is supposedly 'normal'. I am very heavily built - what would be normal for me would be the upper end of that normal BMI...

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quote: Originally posted by Azazel quote: This test doesn't take into account age or ethnic differences. Older people tend to be fatter yup.

I didn't say fatter

	18-03-2005 01:26									#50
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BMI = 21.1
145lb - 5'10
66m - 1.77m

	18-03-2005 01:33									#51
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quote: Originally posted by Lawrence of Arabia this test will give accurate results for 95% percent of all people. only pro athletes and stuff will have problems, as those who are buffed up. however, being that buff cant be good for you (if youre 5ft 8, 215, even if its all muscle, that cant be good for you)

Nah- I don't buy that. If you've got a big frame you'll weigh more, even with no fat.

	18-03-2005 01:37									#52
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I guess I'm normal - 5'10", 170lbs, BMI 24.4

	18-03-2005 01:39									#53
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quote: Originally posted by Dauphin quote: Be honest in the poll, if your BMI is 25.1, you are overweight, it does not matter is your only .2 there. 77kg and 1.76m = 24.9 170 lb and 5' 9" = 25.1 Which should I use.

Whichever is more exact.

As for the complaints about the test:

Yes, as JohnT said, the issue is one of Body MASS. There is an "ideal" healthy bodyweight, and deviation from this "ideal". being big and muscle bound might be considered healthy by some, but such people are definitelly out of norm. You can go further up than you can down, because of course you go down enough, you are dead.

This is the definition that is used by states, given that they need something to guage this issue, and its difficult to start putting in all other possible variables.

So get over it.

As for the Frame issue- the human body has so many shapes. People are generally NOT square, unless they are short and fat.

So again, get over it.

	18-03-2005 01:40									#54
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Arnold competed at around 250 lbs at ~4-5% bodyfat. I'm not competition lean, I'm just not fat i.e. no paunch, no obvious excess. If I was to powerlift again I'd drop to around 200 in competition and be quite lean.

EDIT: like I said I dont float in fresh water at all. Fat floats and increases bouyancy.

	18-03-2005 01:41									#55
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No one has to get over anything, you've got to get context on the whole concept.

	18-03-2005 01:43									#56
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quote: Nah- I don't buy that. If you've got a big frame you'll weigh more, even with no fat.

sure, but the bigger you are, the shorter your life will be. how old do you think shaq and yao are gonna be when they die? nowhere near the average lifespan thats for sure.

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quote: Originally posted by GePap As for the Frame issue- the human body has so many shapes. People are generally NOT square, unless they are short and fat. So again, get over it.

When you sport a 46 inch chest and 18 inch neck, the simple laws of physics would suggest that unless that you're some sort of human/helium hybrid, you're going to weigh more. So get over it.

	18-03-2005 01:51									#58
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quote: Originally posted by Lawrence of Arabia sure, but the bigger you are, the shorter your life will be. how old do you think shaq and yao are gonna be when they die? nowhere near the average lifespan thats for sure.

Who let the Grim Reaper in and told him he had something to contribute?

	18-03-2005 01:55									#59
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its a fact - the bigger you are, no matter for what reason, the more your heart needs to pump blood, the quicker it will get worn out on average, and the sooner you will die. what you eat has of course a part in how long you live, but two people who eat the same stuff, both are fit, but one is larger will end up dead first on average.

	18-03-2005 01:58									#60
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Well that's most cheering to know, but it has very little relevance to the post of mine you quoted.