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steroids in baseball (Time out:0 days after 20-03-2005, 03:31)
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Moral Hazard is offline Moral Hazard
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Firstly the attack on Republicans in the OP is a bit off. Most of the republicans on the panel were quite obviously only interested in using the bully pulpit, and the Dems were far more viscious, some calling for immediate legislation.

Secondly, it really doesn't take that much time out of the Govt. to yell at baseball for a day; because there are more important things doesn't mean that you shouldn't also take care of the lesser important things, especially if they are easier to accomplish.

Last but certainly not least - Baseball is far superior to Football.

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Firstly the attack on Republicans in the OP is a bit off. Most of the republicans on the panel were quite obviously only interested in using the bully pulpit, and the Dems were far more viscious, some calling for immediate legislation.

Secondly, it really doesn't take that much time out of the Govt. to yell at baseball for a day; because there are more important things doesn't mean that you shouldn't also take care of the lesser important things, especially if they are easier to accomplish.

Last but certainly not least - Baseball is far superior to Football.


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since this thread has been threadjacked, I have a question.

Does anyone know what kind of program I need to run XLS files?

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Since this thread got jacked, I'm ignoring Diss and getting it back on topic.

American Football and Baseball are sporting ghettoes- they aren't that big on a global basis. The question is- do you want them to be real, global sports? Featured in the Olympics and all that?

If you do, the drugs have to go.

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The question is- do you want them to be real, global sports?


I don't think most Americans care.

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So? That fact that American Football is a mutant form of rugby doesn't preclude it from being our national pastime.




I thought that was eating saturated fats and sugars disguised as snacks....

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God, why'd they have to delete KrazyHorse's thread?

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Originally posted by molly bloom I thought that was eating saturated fats and sugars disguised as snacks....


Oh yeah, that's right, no other country has junk food. I had forgotten.

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Since this thread got jacked, I'm ignoring Diss and getting it back on topic.

American Football and Baseball are sporting ghettoes- they aren't that big on a global basis. The question is- do you want them to be real, global sports? Featured in the Olympics and all that?

If you do, the drugs have to go.


We don't really care. Baseball has a decent foreign following, football has a small but growing global following. However, it doesn't matter to me whether those sports ever become as big internationally as soccer. I'd rather watch a pre-season NFL game than an Olympic competition. Olympics .

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If you do, the drugs have to go.
Congress is making noises about shoving the Olympic standard down thier throats.

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Oh yeah, that's right, no other country has junk food. I had forgotten.



I'm sorry, I hadn't realised you were so sensitive about the subject.


I should have said, 'America's national pastime, devising and eating cuisine minceur repasts' .

Wycoff is offline Wycoff
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Originally posted by molly bloom I should have said, 'America's national pastime, devising and eating cuisine minceur repasts' .


Oh Noes! Zing!

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Oh Noes! Zing!



Yes it does rather presuppose you know what cuisine minceur is, to get the joke. My bad.

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I thought that was eating saturated fats and sugars disguised as snacks....
Well that's more of a Eurocom pastime now.

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Well that's more of a Eurocom pastime now.



I'm just off for my daily helping of deep fried battered refined sugar, with beef dripping sauce.

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I'd guessed as much.

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Originally posted by molly bloom Yes it does rather presuppose you know what cuisine minceur is, to get the joke. My bad.


No, it was just the most stereotypically gay insult I have ever seen. It did produce a chuckle, though, but probably not in the way that you intended.

(relax, I'm just kidding with you)

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I'm just off for my daily helping of deep fried battered refined sugar, with beef dripping sauce.


that sounds good, can I have some?

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What do you mean it sounds good? He probably will ruin it and deep fry it in vegetable oil.

Everyone knows you have to use lard.

ACK!

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molly bloom is a he?

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Well duh.

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American Football and Baseball are sporting ghettoes- they aren't that big on a global basis. The question is- do you want them to be real, global sports? Featured in the Olympics and all that?


Um... baseball is in the Olympics, and it has a pretty good foriegn following, especially in East Asia and Latin America.

Oh, and I don't give a flying **** if they were using steroids. Just like I don't care that Mickey Mantle, Willie Mays and their compatriots in the 50s and 60s were hopped up on greenies (amphetamines).

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Oh, and I don't give a flying **** if they were using steroids. Just like I don't care that Mickey Mantle, Willie Mays and their compatriots in the 50s and 60s were hopped up on greenies (amphetamines).

If some folks in the league use doping, then it becomes mandatory to use it in order to stay on top... all the straight clean players will end up unemployed while the dopers end up getting millions of dollars and using their money and influence to reinforce the drug habit in the nation...

Yeah, great... let's just make it mandatory to use drugs in the most popular sport of the nation... that'll show a good example to the kids who want to be sport stars; really, it does...

You druglovers are disgusting. Is nobody else thinking about the children anymore?

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If some folks in the league use doping, then it becomes mandatory to use it in order to stay on top


And if some folks use greenies, it becomes mandatory to use it to stay on top. If some folks use the spitball, it becomes mandatory to use it to stay on top (though that never happened).

Can you prove that most of the players in the league are using it? From the random testing done last year, it seems less than 5% were doping.

Furthermore, you think I actually care. And **** the kids. If they are that stupid, let them use the crap.

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Yeah, great... let's just make it mandatory to use drugs in the most popular sport of the nation... that'll show a good example to the kids who want to be sport stars; really, it does...


Or we could have a legally mandated sports salary cap that prevents any player from making more than $350,000 a year. Makes less incentive for people to risk their health tahn the possibility of securiing a $100 million+ contract.

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Or we could have a legally mandated sports salary cap that prevents any player from making more than $350,000 a year. Makes less incentive for people to risk their health tahn the possibility of securiing a $100 million+ contract.

Well that'd be good, too.

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Can you prove that most of the players in the league are using it? From the random testing done last year, it seems less than 5% were doping.

Depends from the testing methods. Most stuff isn't even seen on the standard piss-in-the-pot tests.

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Furthermore, you think I actually care. And **** the kids.

Thanks for proving my point...

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Thanks from proving my point...


You are welcome. We have enough 'think about the children' crap. **** the children. If they are that stupid, they deserve to die. I'm sick of all this 'for the children' crap.

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Molly? You really need some sort of disclaimer in your sig. Something along the lines of "Yes. I have a penis."

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American Football and Baseball are sporting ghettoes- they aren't that big on a global basis. The question is- do you want them to be real, global sports?


The last thing we need is Europeans playing baseball, talk about lack of charisma. Which is the problem with hockey too many boring Canadian and European players. Why is it that all the interesting players (Roenick, Hull ...) are American. An obligitory USA! USA!

While it doesn't become mandatory for a player to use steroids if other players are doing so. It does increase the pressure to use them.

Unlike Imran I do think less of players who are cheating, but like Imran I don't really care about the children. Although I feel bad for the parents, why is it that they found needles and lots of empty bottles only after their kids committed suicide? They really weren't being responsible parents, and share some of the blame. Of course the kids deserve most of the blame, but kids are dumb.

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Molly? You really need some sort of disclaimer in your sig. Something along the lines of "Yes. I have a penis."




But I already know you do. You've mentioned it several times and how much pleasure it gives to you (and I imagine Mrs. Gimp too).

I'm not doing your advertising until I get to sample the product.

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The whole concept of congress having hearings on this matter is beyond bizarre. I watched a few minutes yesterday. What a joke! Members of congress asking players whether congress should "step in" if the new baseball steroid rules are not sufficient. Whats next? Will they ask Jerry Springers audience for advice?

Acquiring and using steroids without a prescription is illegal. No more needs to be done. Congress has no more right to tell baseball how to run their business than they can tell Microsoft or Ford how to run their businesses. If the panel members had (collectively) the sense god gave to chickens they would have told the committee so.

 
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