01-04-2005 02:28									#421
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	01-04-2005 02:39									#422
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every team has one game where things dont go their way. france had their's against us when they completely dominated and didnt score. we've had ours when we almost lost to cyprus, but somehow managed to win. you guys have yet to have yours, but dont worry, you WILL get yours, hopefully at the hands of the swiss. you cannot keep on scoring in the final minutes of every game and hope to tie it up. enjoy the comfy confines of Berne when you come here we will have a huge reception party with a full stadium, and our two world class strikers Alexander Frei and Johan Vonlanthen, along with a goalie whose made some unbelievable saves and who is MVP so far of the team, Zuberbülher. sure, we've got some work to do, but by sept 3rd, dont worry, all the kinks will be ironed out and we will break your hearts

	01-04-2005 02:48									#423
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hey have you guys checked out matchcast on the official fifa website? its a bit like what they have for mlb games online. its limited, but they had france- israel on it

	01-04-2005 02:52									#424
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I have a couple of matches on TV, but it could be a nice suppliment.

So, what's Switzerland's next game, anyway?

	01-04-2005 02:57									#425
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at the faroe islands, june 4th, that should put as back into first place, and net us at least 3 goals if not 5. im in the US so i need to listen to it on a stream from a local swiss radio station (RSR for example) the commentators are good tho

	01-04-2005 03:12									#426
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quote: Originally posted by Lawrence of Arabia hey have you guys checked out matchcast on the official fifa website? its a bit like what they have for mlb games online. its limited, but they had france- israel on it

No, I hadn't really thought of going to FIFA.com for that, but thanks for the tip . I'll definetly use it for future games which are not on TV!

	01-04-2005 04:17									#427
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Ireland will beat Switzerland at home. Case closed.

	01-04-2005 04:28									#428
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Yay!!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/foo...ted/4399073.stm

	01-04-2005 04:59									#429
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quote: Originally posted by Lawrence of Arabia we can assume that ireland beats cyprus, they will have 18 pts in 9 matches, switzlerland will have 18 pts in 8 mathces. switzlerland only has to win one out of the two remaining games to go on, while ireland needs to beat switzerland. switzerland can play for the tie against both france (at home) AND ireland, and still qualify.

You're screwing up the math somewhere. Ireland and Switzerland currently both have 9 points from 5 matches. In the remaining 5 matches, they both play exactly the same opponents (only in a different order, obviously) and each other. In club competitions the order of matches can make a difference but international matches are much too far apart. So their chances of qualifying are EXACTLY equal (except that Switzerland has a slightly better goal difference), it all hinges on their performances against France and each other (assuming they don't screw up against Israel, but I don't expect they will).

I personally think France and Ireland will go through, but it *is* very tense and everything is still to possible, even for Israel...

	01-04-2005 05:03									#430
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quote: Ireland will beat Switzerland at home. Case closed.

dont forget, they choked during Euro 2004 qualifiers aginst . . . yep, you guessed it, switzerland.

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quote: In club competitions the order of matches can make a difference but international matches are much too far apart.

i would disagree - switzerland plays france oct 8th and ireland oct 12th. thats only 4 days or rest. you can see how well we played with 4 days of rest last time - we barely beat cyprus after playing france. so that will adversely affect switzerland. the only plus is that they play at home on oct 8th, which gives them a better chance of winning. out of the top three teams we play, we only play ireland away (israel and france both play in switzerland) which gives us the edge in that area.

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check this out - Zidane says he wants to return to play international soccer for one game, when france plays ireland. uh oh, even zidane sees the tight spot that france is in.

http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com/06/fr/050331/6/1pli.html

	01-04-2005 05:09									#433
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quote: Originally posted by Lawrence of Arabia dont forget, they choked during Euro 2004 qualifiers aginst . . . yep, you guessed it, switzerland.

They choked on us in '96 but they kicked our arses in '02. They thrive on revence...

	01-04-2005 05:17									#434
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also, barthez may be suspended. hes being investigated by the french football association (but knowing the french and the desperate straights they are in, they wont pull the trigger)

http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com/06/fr/050322/6/1npw.html

quote: They choked on us in '96 but they kicked our arses in '02. They thrive on revence...

they already blew their load on us tho - they hyped themselves up like no other, and then they end up blowing their lead and we tied it. we were missing frei and spycher and a bunch of other players while ireland had a full squad. plus roy keane got a yellow card for playing out of control.

	01-04-2005 05:17									#435
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quote: Originally posted by Lawrence of Arabia i would disagree - switzerland plays france oct 8th and ireland oct 12th. thats only 4 days or rest. you can see how well we played with 4 days of rest last time - we barely beat cyprus after playing france.

That's a Swiss problem then, I never noticed any other countries suffering from that. E.g. Israel had no trouble with France just 4 days after Ireland. And last year the Netherlands beat Scotland with 6-0 just 4 days after losing 1-0. They get a week off in the run-up to both matches, you gotta have a pretty poor team conditionally to not be able to play two matches in 4 days.

quote: out of the top three teams we play, we only play ireland away (israel and france both play in switzerland) which gives us the edge in that area.

Ireland plays all three matches at home.

	01-04-2005 05:20									#436
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quote: That's a Swiss problem then,

must be

quote: Ireland plays all three matches at home.

yeah but thats a disadvantage cuz all the players will hit the pubs before the game and will be completely smashed come game time. at leasat with away games, they are mostly confined to the hotels cuz the y dont know any local watering holes

	01-04-2005 05:24									#437
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Let's just wait 'til June and see... At this point it's all so close anyway it'll go to the team that wants it most...

	01-04-2005 05:29									#438
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2002:

Ireland 1- 2 Switzerland (Landsdowne, Dublin Euro Qual)

2003:

Switzerland 2 - 0 Ireland (Jakob Park, Berne Euro Qual)

2004:

Switzerland 1 - 1 Ireland (Jakob Park, Berne World Cup Qual)

2005:

Ireland 1 - 2 Switzerland (Landsdowne, Dublin World Cup Qual)

nothings gonna change!

	01-04-2005 05:36									#439
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Fabio Celestini puts in the game winner as Switzerland beats Ireland in Ireland 2 to 1

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	01-04-2005 10:34									#440
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Btw, been reading some history of teams in the EPL, especially about the somewhat, ehrm, sordid past of Chelsea and anti-semitism. MikeH, with the owner now being a Jew and West London becoming very cosmopolitan how is that past being dealt with?

Just curious, not putting anyone on the spot or anything.

	01-04-2005 12:18									#441
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Shearer has anounced he will play another year btw.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foo...ted/4399073.stm

	01-04-2005 13:03									#442
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui Btw, been reading some history of teams in the EPL, especially about the somewhat, ehrm, sordid past of Chelsea and anti-semitism. MikeH, with the owner now being a Jew and West London becoming very cosmopolitan how is that past being dealt with? Just curious, not putting anyone on the spot or anything.

Well Chelsea did have elements of notoriously racist support and the previous owner (along with the FA and other clubs) spent the last 20 years trying to get rid of most of it. Chelsea is so expensive to live in/go and see the team (I only went once this season £50 a ticket!) that loads of the fans you get in there are fairly rich middle class guys or couples... rather than the old school fans.

Oh and found this link:


http://www.lbhf.gov.uk/news/2005_01...st_27_01_05.htm

	01-04-2005 19:47									#444
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70€???? That's just sick!!!!

	01-04-2005 20:25									#445
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quote: Originally posted by alva Shearer has anounced he will play another year btw. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foo...ted/4399073.stm

WOOOOOOOOT!!!!!!!!

	01-04-2005 20:25									#446
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Indeed.

Was worth it to see the rubbish Newcastle United crushed 4-0 though.

	01-04-2005 20:26									#447
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And I had £2 bet on Lampard as first scorer and 2-0 Chelsea as well. Worth about £60 if I won. I think I was about the only unhappy Chelsea fan when we scored the third.

	01-04-2005 20:32									#448
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quote: Originally posted by MikeH Well Chelsea did have elements of notoriously racist support and the previous owner (along with the FA and other clubs) spent the last 20 years trying to get rid of most of it. Chelsea is so expensive to live in/go and see the team (I only went once this season £50 a ticket!) that loads of the fans you get in there are fairly rich middle class guys or couples... rather than the old school fans.

Yeah, I figure that Chelsea's changing neighborhood character would change minds. Especially now it's become so posh. I hear that the stadium has a mall attached to it.

I really didn't know much about Chelsea's past (and the far-right hooligans who backed the team back in the 70s and early 80s) until I read "How Soccer Explains the World". Very good book, btw. I recommend it.

	01-04-2005 21:16									#449
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Apparently Mourinho's fine is less than a days pay!

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/headli...=329274&cc=5739

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quote: Originally posted by alva Shearer has anounced he will play another year btw. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foo...ted/4399073.stm

I posted that yesterday. Don't you folks read?