22-03-2005 06:05									#31
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quote: Originally posted by Kuciwalker Alex Sieke (a kid on my team last year, on varsity) had something like a 6:12 and got recruited to Princeton - full scholarship, IIRC - with a 3.2 GPA (if that) he's at a 6:06 now

True, but Xav's a lightweight. 6:27 while staying under 165lbs is pretty impressive, and involves more training that I can shake a stick at. He rowed a marathon (42k) the other day for charity, which is just insane.

And 6:12 get's a full scholarship? That might just about get you into our first XIII, though while at school it's pretty impressive I guess

	22-03-2005 06:06									#32
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Remember he's a full year younger that high school grads on your side of the pond.

	22-03-2005 09:51									#33
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quote: Originally posted by Gibsie Why would you want to row for 5 1/2 hours a day

Good practice if he's ever abandoning a sinking ship?

	22-03-2005 14:49									#34
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	22-03-2005 14:57									#35
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	22-03-2005 15:05									#36
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	22-03-2005 15:10									#37
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Say... 15 calories at 5cm^3....

For 6k calories you'd need to injest 2000 cubic centimeters of *** a day! Or basically blow 400 guys a day.

	22-03-2005 15:15									#38
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A bit more on the topic, HOLY **** 6k calories a day!? Back when I was going to the weight room every day I was eating about 3k and thought that was a freakishly large amount. I had to force feed myself because I had no appetite after the first few days.

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quote: Originally posted by Kuciwalker you have at least 70 lbs and 8" on me there

Well I am a proper heavyweight rower i guess

I am guessing you're in a lightweight crew then? Or they not have those at HS level? Lightweights are nuts.. one guy i rowed with had a natural weight of 82kg but dieted down for races to 72kg.. wasn't too healthy imo.

6k is alot to eat (especially when you're Kuci size I guess), but 3500-4000 is easy, though slightly harder if you want it in nutritious food You got a nutritionist's program on what to eat?

	22-03-2005 15:21									#40
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quote: You got a nutritionist's program on what to eat?

Clearly he doesnt if hes eating pizza.

	22-03-2005 15:23									#41
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Not necessarily.. freshly prepared pizza is a pretty decent way to get calories in. As long as you don't go for the processed, deep pan junk, it's not unhealthy.

	22-03-2005 15:28									#42
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quote: Not necessarily.. freshly prepared pizza is a pretty decent way to get calories in. As long as you don't go for the processed, deep pan junk, it's not unhealthy.

Unless hes going rowing right after eating all of that pizza it will just turn to fat. Pizza has a ton of cheese on it, cheese is almost all fat, fat most easily turns into fat.

not to mention all of those carbs he'll get from the crust

	22-03-2005 15:34									#43
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident I would be more impressed if you ingested 500-600 calories daily. I've done it (for only a couple days), and it isn't easy.

I've gone two days without eating anything. Then I get a massive headache...

	22-03-2005 15:38									#44
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quote: Originally posted by Space05us quote: Not necessarily.. freshly prepared pizza is a pretty decent way to get calories in. As long as you don't go for the processed, deep pan junk, it's not unhealthy. Unless hes going rowing right after eating all of that pizza it will just turn to fat. Pizza has a ton of cheese on it, cheese is almost all fat, fat most easily turns into fat. not to mention all of those carbs he'll get from the crust

True but as he said it was lunch and he had 2.5hrs of rowing afterwards in the afternoon, it's pretty safe to assume that won't matter that much for him Also the amount of cheese on pizza is very controllable.

	22-03-2005 16:28									#45
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Oh and carbs = good for endurance sports. Why do you reckon people carb load before marathons, or boxers before fights. My main calorific intake is probably carbs, I'd say about 50-60%, 30% protein and rest fat i guess.

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quote: Oh and carbs = good for endurance sports. Why do you reckon people carb load before marathons, or boxers before fights. My main calorific intake is probably carbs, I'd say about 50-60%, 30% protein and rest fat i guess.

They load up on quality carbs like rice, pasta, etc. Pizza dough is trash food.

	22-03-2005 17:57									#47
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True, I'd not eat pizza in heavy training.. I eat pasta 5-6 times a week.

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quote: Originally posted by Space05us They load up on quality carbs like rice, pasta, etc. Pizza dough is trash food.

So's pasta. Pasta, and anything else made from Duram wheat, isn't a good form of carbs. Having said that, the quality of the carbs doesn't matter so much when it's starch and doesn't affect performance much. But pizza dough is just as good, nutritionally, as pasta.

Which reminds me, need to get back into training...

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quote: So's pasta. Pasta, and anything else made from Duram wheat, isn't a good form of carbs. Having said that, the quality of the carbs doesn't matter so much when it's starch and doesn't affect performance much. But pizza dough is just as good, nutritionally, as pasta.

Thats why you buy whole-grain/unbleached pastas.

	22-03-2005 19:42									#50
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quote: Originally posted by Space05us A bit more on the topic, HOLY **** 6k calories a day!? Back when I was going to the weight room every day I was eating about 3k and thought that was a freakishly large amount. I had to force feed myself because I had no appetite after the first few days.

I eat a lot normally. I have a fast metabolism.

	22-03-2005 19:43									#51
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quote: Originally posted by lightblue Well I am a proper heavyweight rower i guess I am guessing you're in a lightweight crew then? Or they not have those at HS level? Lightweights are nuts.. one guy i rowed with had a natural weight of 82kg but dieted down for races to 72kg.. wasn't too healthy imo.

We don't precisely have lightweights, but I'm in that group, yeah.

quote: 6k is alot to eat (especially when you're Kuci size I guess), but 3500-4000 is easy, though slightly harder if you want it in nutritious food You got a nutritionist's program on what to eat?

I usually eat a lot anyway. Most of the new calories are from pizza and stuff

	22-03-2005 19:44									#52
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quote: Originally posted by Space05us quote: Oh and carbs = good for endurance sports. Why do you reckon people carb load before marathons, or boxers before fights. My main calorific intake is probably carbs, I'd say about 50-60%, 30% protein and rest fat i guess. They load up on quality carbs like rice, pasta, etc. Pizza dough is trash food.

I have sandwiches too.

EDIT: in fact, I just finished an after-rowing snack of a nice, fat ham sandwhich, orange juice and yogurt.

	22-03-2005 19:49									#53
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quote: I eat a lot normally. I have a fast metabolism.

No kuci, I have a fast metabolism. you have a worm.

edit: come to think of it you are also a lot more active than I was when I went to the weight room. I only did about 10 minutes cardio a day, I was trying to gain weight.

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Oh, I forgot, I'm getting a lot of carbs from the big pretzel rods I munch on throughout the day.

	22-03-2005 21:03									#55
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Fast metabolisms seem a pain. IN college I knew a short, wiry law student, maybe, MAYBE he wieghted 120 lbs- anyways, I was about 100lb heavier than him, and yet he ate twice as much as I did, if not more- because his metabolism was way too fast. The guy would have 4 or 5 chicken cutlets and tons of carbohydrates and milk and you name it- never gained an ounce.

	22-03-2005 21:17									#56
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quote: Originally posted by Kuciwalker I eat a lot normally. I have a fast metabolism.

No, you're a teenager.

I used to eat twice as much as I do today.

	22-03-2005 21:18									#57
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When I was 16-17 I was eating ~4k calories a day. I'm under 2000 nowadays.

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quote: Originally posted by KrazyHorse No, you're a teenager.

Same thing

	22-03-2005 21:29									#59
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I used to get 5 or 6 full plates when I went to a buffet.

Plus dessert...