24-03-2005 21:54									#61
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization: The Boardgame

1. City Hobgoblins - Stuie
2. Georgia Granies - Imran
3. Columbus Interns - Guynemer
4. The Arcade Fire - asleepatthewheel
5. Revenge of the Nerds - jdd
6. Berzerker - Berzerker
7. Your World Champions - LoA
8. Ramsey's Whiffers - gjramsey
9. Vancouver Isle Bears - vlad
10. Boston Rebels - The Emperor Fabulous
11. Houston's Owls of Rice - vlad anterkov
12. Apocalypses - Apocalypse

1.1 Albert Pujols (1B - STL)
1.2 Alex Rodriguez (3B - NYY)
1.3 Randy Johnson (SP - NYY)
1.4 Johan Santana (SP - MIN)
1.5 Barry Bonds (OF - SF)
1.6 Vlad Guerrero (OF - LAA)
1.7 Pedro Martinez (SP - NYM)
1.8 Carlos Beltran (OF - NYM)
1.9 Miguel Tejada (SS - BAL)
1.10 Alfonso Soriano (2B - TEX)
1.11 Bobby Abreu (OF - PHI)
1.12 Jason Schmidt (SP - SF)

2.12 Adrian Beltre (3B - SEA)
2.11 Manny Ramirez (OF - BOS)
2.10 Ichiro Suzuki (OF - SEA)
2.9 Scott Rolen (3B - STL)
2.8 Carl Crawford (CF - TB)
2.7 Mark Prior (SP - CHC)
2.6 Todd Helton (1B - COL)
2.5 Jim Thome (1B - PHI)
2.4 Eric Gagne (RP - LA)
2.3 Jim Edmonds (CF - StL)
2.2 Curt Schilling (SP - BOS)
2.1 Adam Dunn (1B/OF - CIN)

3.1 Melvin Mora (3B - BAL)
3.2 Miguel Cabrera (OF - FLA)
3.3 Derek Jeter (SS - NYY)
3.4 Mark Teixiera (1B - TEX)
3.5 Ben Sheets (SP - MIL)
3.6 Roger Clemens (SP - HOU)
3.7 David Ortiz (1B - BOS)
3.8 Aramis Ram?rez (3B - CHC)
3.9 Tim Hudson (SP - ATL)
3.10 Carlos Delgado (1B - FLA)
3.11 Keith Foulke (RP - BOS)
3.12 Brad Lidge (RP - HOU)

4.12 Johnny Damon (CF - BOS)
4.11 Mike Young (SS - TEX)
4.10 Mariano Rivera (RP - NYY)
4.9 Jake Peavy (SP - SD)
4.8 Gary Sheffield (OF - NYY)
4.7 Francisco Rodriguez (RP - LAA)
4.6 Carlos Zambrano (SP - CHI)
4.5 Oliver Perez (SP - PIT)
4.4 Carlos Guillen (SS - DET)
4.3 Aubrey Huff (1B/3B/OF - TB)
4.2 Nomar Garciaparra (SS - CHC)
4.1 Jimmy Rollins (SS - PHI)

5.1 Francisco Cordero (RP - TEX)
5.2 Roy Oswalt (SP - HOU)
5.3 Eric Chavez (3B - OAK)
5.4 Juan Pierre (CF - FLA)
5.5 Hank Blalock (3B - TEX)
5.6 Armando Benitez (RP - SFG)
5.7 Edgar Renteria (SS - BOS)
5.8 Rafael Furcal (SS - ATL)
5.9 John Smoltz (SP - ATL)
5.10 Josh Beckett (SP - FLA)
5.11 Matt Clement (SP - BOS)
5.12 Paul Konerko (1B - CWS)

6.12 Lance Berkman (OF - HOU)
6.11 Corey Patterson (CF - CHC)
6.10 Chipper Jones (3B/OF - ATL)
6.9 Sammy Sosa (OF - BAL)
6.8 Billy Wagner (RP - PHI)
6.7 Marcus Giles (2B - ATL)
6.6 Jose Reyes (2B/SS - NYM)
6.5 Hideki Matsui (OF - NYY)
6.4 Victor Martinez (C - CLE)
6.3 Ivan Rodriguez (C - DET)
6.2 Travis Hafner (1B - CLE)
6.1 Chone Figgins (All sorts of stuff - LAA)

7.1 Carl Pavano (SP - NYY)
7.2 Trevor Hoffman (RP - SD)
7.3 Kerry Wood (SP - CHC)
7.4 Mark Loretta (2B - SD)
7.5 Joe Nathan (RP - MIN)
7.6 Jason Isringhausen (RP - STL)
7.7 Jason Varitek (C - BOS)
7.8 Mike Mussina (SP - NYY)
7.9 Rich Harden (SP - OAK)
7.10 Barry Zito (SP - OAK)
7.11 Jorge Posada (C - NYY)
7.12 Juan Uribe (2B,3B,SS - CWS)

8.12 Jaret Wright (SP - NYY)
8.11 Justin Morneau (1B - MIN)
8.10 Javy Lopez (C - BAL)
8.9 Joe Mauer (C - MIN)
8.8 Jeff Kent (2B - LA)
8.7 Mark Mulder (SP - STL)
8.6 Mike Piazza (C - NYM)
8.5 Scott Podsednik (CF - ChW)
8.4 Matt Morris (SP - STL)
8.3 Shawn Green (1B/OF - ARI)
8.2 Aaron Rowland (CF - ChW)
8.1 Carlos Lee (OF - MIL)

9.1 Jeremy Burnitz (CF - CHC)
9.2 Johnny Estrada (C - ATL)
9.3 Octavio Dotel (RP - OAK)
9.4 Roy Halladay (SP - TOR)
9.5 Bret Boone (2B - SEA)
9.6 Guilermo Mota (RP - FLA)
9.7 Mike Lowell (3B - FLA)
9.8 Derrek Lee, ChC (1B - CHC)
9.9 Ken Griffey Jr. (CF - CIN)
9.10 Orlando Cabrera (SS - LAA)
9.11 David Wright (3B - NYM)
9.12 Pedro Feliz (1B,3B,SS - SF)

10.12 Kelvin Escobar (SP - LAA)
10.11 Brad Radke (SP - MIN)
10.10 Moises Alou (OF - SF)
10.9 Bartolo Colon (SP - LAA)
10.8 Richie Sexson (1B - SEA)
10.7 Dan Kolb (RP - ATL)
10.6 Magglio Ordonez (OF - DET)
10.5 Jason Kendall (C - OAK)
10.4 JD Drew (OF - LAD)
10.3 Sean Casey (1B - CIN)
10.2 Chris Carpenter (SP - StL)
10.1 Paul Lo Duca (C - FLA)

11.1 Greg Maddux (SP - CHC)
11.2 Brian Giles (OF - SD)
11.3 Jeremy Bonderman (SP - DET)
11.4 Jason Marquis (SP - STL)
11.5 Livan Hernández (SP- WAS)
11.6 Troy Glaus (3B - ARI)
11.7 Trot Nixon (RF - BOS)
11.8 Javier Vazquez (SP - ARI)
11.9 Jason Bay (OF - PIT)
11.10 Odalis Perez (SP - LA)
11.11 Ray Durham (2B - SFG)
11.12 Ryan Freel (2B,3B,CF - CIN)

12.12 Mark Buehrle (SP - CHW)
12.11 CC Sabathia (SP - CLE)
12.10 Vernon Wells (CF - TOR)
12.9 Austin Kearns (OF - CIN)
12.8 A.J. Burnett (SP - FLA)
12.7 Yhency Brazoban (RP - LOS)
12.6 Garrett Anderson (CF - LAA)
12.5 Shingo Takatsu (RP - ChW)
12.4 Larry Walker (OF - StL)
12.3 Freddy Garcia (SP - ChW)
12.2 Jose Vidro (2B - WAS)
12.1 Danny Graves (RP - CIN)

13.1 Pat Burrell (OF - PHI)
13.2 Troy Percival (RP - DET)
13.3 Brian Roberts (2B - BAL)
13.4 Aaron Boone (3B - CLE)
13.5 Tom Gordon (RP - NYY)
13.6 Chase Utley (2B - PHI)
13.7 Lew Ford (CF - MIN)
13.8 Jose Mesa (RP - PIT)
13.9 Scott Kazmir ( SP - TB)
13.10 B.J. Ryan (RP - BAL)
13.11 Bob Wickman (RP - CLE)
13.12 Jake Westbrook (SP CLE)

14.12 Michael Barrett (C - CHC)
14.11 Phil Nevin (1B - SD)
14.10 Dave Roberts (CF - SD)
14.9 Tadahito Iguchi (2B - CHW)
14.8 Brad Penny (SP - LAD)
14.7 Jose Guillen (OF - WAS)
14.6 Derek Lowe (SP-LA)
14.5 Steve Finley (CF-LAA)
14.4 Braden Looper (RP -NYM)
14.3 LaTroy Hawkins (RP - CHC)
14.2 Jason Lane (OF - HOU)
14.1 David Wells (SP - BOS)

15.1 Rodrigo Lopez (SP/RP - BAL)
15.2 Zack Greinke (SP - KCR)
15.3 Juan Rincon (RP - MIN)
15.4 BAPAY (The name will come when I have time to look it up)

jdd, you are up.

	25-03-2005 00:47									#62
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization 2

Bump for jdd.

	25-03-2005 01:27									#63
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization III: Complete

1. City Hobgoblins - Stuie
2. Georgia Granies - Imran
3. Columbus Interns - Guynemer
4. The Arcade Fire - asleepatthewheel
5. Revenge of the Nerds - jdd
6. Berzerker - Berzerker
7. Your World Champions - LoA
8. Ramsey's Whiffers - gjramsey
9. Vancouver Isle Bears - vlad
10. Boston Rebels - The Emperor Fabulous
11. Houston's Owls of Rice - vlad anterkov
12. Apocalypses - Apocalypse

1.1 Albert Pujols (1B - STL)
1.2 Alex Rodriguez (3B - NYY)
1.3 Randy Johnson (SP - NYY)
1.4 Johan Santana (SP - MIN)
1.5 Barry Bonds (OF - SF)
1.6 Vlad Guerrero (OF - LAA)
1.7 Pedro Martinez (SP - NYM)
1.8 Carlos Beltran (OF - NYM)
1.9 Miguel Tejada (SS - BAL)
1.10 Alfonso Soriano (2B - TEX)
1.11 Bobby Abreu (OF - PHI)
1.12 Jason Schmidt (SP - SF)

2.12 Adrian Beltre (3B - SEA)
2.11 Manny Ramirez (OF - BOS)
2.10 Ichiro Suzuki (OF - SEA)
2.9 Scott Rolen (3B - STL)
2.8 Carl Crawford (CF - TB)
2.7 Mark Prior (SP - CHC)
2.6 Todd Helton (1B - COL)
2.5 Jim Thome (1B - PHI)
2.4 Eric Gagne (RP - LA)
2.3 Jim Edmonds (CF - StL)
2.2 Curt Schilling (SP - BOS)
2.1 Adam Dunn (1B/OF - CIN)

3.1 Melvin Mora (3B - BAL)
3.2 Miguel Cabrera (OF - FLA)
3.3 Derek Jeter (SS - NYY)
3.4 Mark Teixiera (1B - TEX)
3.5 Ben Sheets (SP - MIL)
3.6 Roger Clemens (SP - HOU)
3.7 David Ortiz (1B - BOS)
3.8 Aramis Ram?rez (3B - CHC)
3.9 Tim Hudson (SP - ATL)
3.10 Carlos Delgado (1B - FLA)
3.11 Keith Foulke (RP - BOS)
3.12 Brad Lidge (RP - HOU)

4.12 Johnny Damon (CF - BOS)
4.11 Mike Young (SS - TEX)
4.10 Mariano Rivera (RP - NYY)
4.9 Jake Peavy (SP - SD)
4.8 Gary Sheffield (OF - NYY)
4.7 Francisco Rodriguez (RP - LAA)
4.6 Carlos Zambrano (SP - CHI)
4.5 Oliver Perez (SP - PIT)
4.4 Carlos Guillen (SS - DET)
4.3 Aubrey Huff (1B/3B/OF - TB)
4.2 Nomar Garciaparra (SS - CHC)
4.1 Jimmy Rollins (SS - PHI)

5.1 Francisco Cordero (RP - TEX)
5.2 Roy Oswalt (SP - HOU)
5.3 Eric Chavez (3B - OAK)
5.4 Juan Pierre (CF - FLA)
5.5 Hank Blalock (3B - TEX)
5.6 Armando Benitez (RP - SFG)
5.7 Edgar Renteria (SS - BOS)
5.8 Rafael Furcal (SS - ATL)
5.9 John Smoltz (SP - ATL)
5.10 Josh Beckett (SP - FLA)
5.11 Matt Clement (SP - BOS)
5.12 Paul Konerko (1B - CWS)

6.12 Lance Berkman (OF - HOU)
6.11 Corey Patterson (CF - CHC)
6.10 Chipper Jones (3B/OF - ATL)
6.9 Sammy Sosa (OF - BAL)
6.8 Billy Wagner (RP - PHI)
6.7 Marcus Giles (2B - ATL)
6.6 Jose Reyes (2B/SS - NYM)
6.5 Hideki Matsui (OF - NYY)
6.4 Victor Martinez (C - CLE)
6.3 Ivan Rodriguez (C - DET)
6.2 Travis Hafner (1B - CLE)
6.1 Chone Figgins (All sorts of stuff - LAA)

7.1 Carl Pavano (SP - NYY)
7.2 Trevor Hoffman (RP - SD)
7.3 Kerry Wood (SP - CHC)
7.4 Mark Loretta (2B - SD)
7.5 Joe Nathan (RP - MIN)
7.6 Jason Isringhausen (RP - STL)
7.7 Jason Varitek (C - BOS)
7.8 Mike Mussina (SP - NYY)
7.9 Rich Harden (SP - OAK)
7.10 Barry Zito (SP - OAK)
7.11 Jorge Posada (C - NYY)
7.12 Juan Uribe (2B,3B,SS - CWS)

8.12 Jaret Wright (SP - NYY)
8.11 Justin Morneau (1B - MIN)
8.10 Javy Lopez (C - BAL)
8.9 Joe Mauer (C - MIN)
8.8 Jeff Kent (2B - LA)
8.7 Mark Mulder (SP - STL)
8.6 Mike Piazza (C - NYM)
8.5 Scott Podsednik (CF - ChW)
8.4 Matt Morris (SP - STL)
8.3 Shawn Green (1B/OF - ARI)
8.2 Aaron Rowland (CF - ChW)
8.1 Carlos Lee (OF - MIL)

9.1 Jeremy Burnitz (CF - CHC)
9.2 Johnny Estrada (C - ATL)
9.3 Octavio Dotel (RP - OAK)
9.4 Roy Halladay (SP - TOR)
9.5 Bret Boone (2B - SEA)
9.6 Guilermo Mota (RP - FLA)
9.7 Mike Lowell (3B - FLA)
9.8 Derrek Lee, ChC (1B - CHC)
9.9 Ken Griffey Jr. (CF - CIN)
9.10 Orlando Cabrera (SS - LAA)
9.11 David Wright (3B - NYM)
9.12 Pedro Feliz (1B,3B,SS - SF)

10.12 Kelvin Escobar (SP - LAA)
10.11 Brad Radke (SP - MIN)
10.10 Moises Alou (OF - SF)
10.9 Bartolo Colon (SP - LAA)
10.8 Richie Sexson (1B - SEA)
10.7 Dan Kolb (RP - ATL)
10.6 Magglio Ordonez (OF - DET)
10.5 Jason Kendall (C - OAK)
10.4 JD Drew (OF - LAD)
10.3 Sean Casey (1B - CIN)
10.2 Chris Carpenter (SP - StL)
10.1 Paul Lo Duca (C - FLA)

11.1 Greg Maddux (SP - CHC)
11.2 Brian Giles (OF - SD)
11.3 Jeremy Bonderman (SP - DET)
11.4 Jason Marquis (SP - STL)
11.5 Livan Hernández (SP- WAS)
11.6 Troy Glaus (3B - ARI)
11.7 Trot Nixon (RF - BOS)
11.8 Javier Vazquez (SP - ARI)
11.9 Jason Bay (OF - PIT)
11.10 Odalis Perez (SP - LA)
11.11 Ray Durham (2B - SFG)
11.12 Ryan Freel (2B,3B,CF - CIN)

12.12 Mark Buehrle (SP - CHW)
12.11 CC Sabathia (SP - CLE)
12.10 Vernon Wells (CF - TOR)
12.9 Austin Kearns (OF - CIN)
12.8 A.J. Burnett (SP - FLA)
12.7 Yhency Brazoban (RP - LOS)
12.6 Garrett Anderson (CF - LAA)
12.5 Shingo Takatsu (RP - ChW)
12.4 Larry Walker (OF - StL)
12.3 Freddy Garcia (SP - ChW)
12.2 Jose Vidro (2B - WAS)
12.1 Danny Graves (RP - CIN)

13.1 Pat Burrell (OF - PHI)
13.2 Troy Percival (RP - DET)
13.3 Brian Roberts (2B - BAL)
13.4 Aaron Boone (3B - CLE)
13.5 Tom Gordon (RP - NYY)
13.6 Chase Utley (2B - PHI)
13.7 Lew Ford (CF - MIN)
13.8 Jose Mesa (RP - PIT)
13.9 Scott Kazmir ( SP - TB)
13.10 B.J. Ryan (RP - BAL)
13.11 Bob Wickman (RP - CLE)
13.12 Jake Westbrook (SP CLE)

14.12 Michael Barrett (C - CHC)
14.11 Phil Nevin (1B - SD)
14.10 Dave Roberts (CF - SD)
14.9 Tadahito Iguchi (2B - CHW)
14.8 Brad Penny (SP - LAD)
14.7 Jose Guillen (OF - WAS)
14.6 Derek Lowe (SP-LA)
14.5 Steve Finley (CF-LAA)
14.4 Braden Looper (RP -NYM)
14.3 LaTroy Hawkins (RP - CHC)
14.2 Jason Lane (OF - HOU)
14.1 David Wells (SP - BOS)

15.1 Rodrigo Lopez (SP/RP - BAL)
15.2 Zack Greinke (SP - KCR)
15.3 Juan Rincon (RP - MIN)
15.4 BAPAY (The name will come when I have time to look it up)
15.5 Doug Davis (SP-MIL?)

	25-03-2005 02:29									#64
	Browse Apolyton AD-FREE

Yeah, it's Milwaukee.

Berzerker is up.

	25-03-2005 03:49									#65
	Got spare money?

1. City Hobgoblins - Stuie
2. Georgia Granies - Imran
3. Columbus Interns - Guynemer
4. The Arcade Fire - asleepatthewheel
5. Revenge of the Nerds - jdd
6. Berzerker - Berzerker
7. Your World Champions - LoA
8. Ramsey's Whiffers - gjramsey
9. Vancouver Isle Bears - vlad
10. Boston Rebels - The Emperor Fabulous
11. Houston's Owls of Rice - vlad anterkov
12. Apocalypses - Apocalypse

1.1 Albert Pujols (1B - STL)
1.2 Alex Rodriguez (3B - NYY)
1.3 Randy Johnson (SP - NYY)
1.4 Johan Santana (SP - MIN)
1.5 Barry Bonds (OF - SF)
1.6 Vlad Guerrero (OF - LAA)
1.7 Pedro Martinez (SP - NYM)
1.8 Carlos Beltran (OF - NYM)
1.9 Miguel Tejada (SS - BAL)
1.10 Alfonso Soriano (2B - TEX)
1.11 Bobby Abreu (OF - PHI)
1.12 Jason Schmidt (SP - SF)

2.12 Adrian Beltre (3B - SEA)
2.11 Manny Ramirez (OF - BOS)
2.10 Ichiro Suzuki (OF - SEA)
2.9 Scott Rolen (3B - STL)
2.8 Carl Crawford (CF - TB)
2.7 Mark Prior (SP - CHC)
2.6 Todd Helton (1B - COL)
2.5 Jim Thome (1B - PHI)
2.4 Eric Gagne (RP - LA)
2.3 Jim Edmonds (CF - StL)
2.2 Curt Schilling (SP - BOS)
2.1 Adam Dunn (1B/OF - CIN)

3.1 Melvin Mora (3B - BAL)
3.2 Miguel Cabrera (OF - FLA)
3.3 Derek Jeter (SS - NYY)
3.4 Mark Teixiera (1B - TEX)
3.5 Ben Sheets (SP - MIL)
3.6 Roger Clemens (SP - HOU)
3.7 David Ortiz (1B - BOS)
3.8 Aramis Ram?rez (3B - CHC)
3.9 Tim Hudson (SP - ATL)
3.10 Carlos Delgado (1B - FLA)
3.11 Keith Foulke (RP - BOS)
3.12 Brad Lidge (RP - HOU)

4.12 Johnny Damon (CF - BOS)
4.11 Mike Young (SS - TEX)
4.10 Mariano Rivera (RP - NYY)
4.9 Jake Peavy (SP - SD)
4.8 Gary Sheffield (OF - NYY)
4.7 Francisco Rodriguez (RP - LAA)
4.6 Carlos Zambrano (SP - CHI)
4.5 Oliver Perez (SP - PIT)
4.4 Carlos Guillen (SS - DET)
4.3 Aubrey Huff (1B/3B/OF - TB)
4.2 Nomar Garciaparra (SS - CHC)
4.1 Jimmy Rollins (SS - PHI)

5.1 Francisco Cordero (RP - TEX)
5.2 Roy Oswalt (SP - HOU)
5.3 Eric Chavez (3B - OAK)
5.4 Juan Pierre (CF - FLA)
5.5 Hank Blalock (3B - TEX)
5.6 Armando Benitez (RP - SFG)
5.7 Edgar Renteria (SS - BOS)
5.8 Rafael Furcal (SS - ATL)
5.9 John Smoltz (SP - ATL)
5.10 Josh Beckett (SP - FLA)
5.11 Matt Clement (SP - BOS)
5.12 Paul Konerko (1B - CWS)

6.12 Lance Berkman (OF - HOU)
6.11 Corey Patterson (CF - CHC)
6.10 Chipper Jones (3B/OF - ATL)
6.9 Sammy Sosa (OF - BAL)
6.8 Billy Wagner (RP - PHI)
6.7 Marcus Giles (2B - ATL)
6.6 Jose Reyes (2B/SS - NYM)
6.5 Hideki Matsui (OF - NYY)
6.4 Victor Martinez (C - CLE)
6.3 Ivan Rodriguez (C - DET)
6.2 Travis Hafner (1B - CLE)
6.1 Chone Figgins (All sorts of stuff - LAA)

7.1 Carl Pavano (SP - NYY)
7.2 Trevor Hoffman (RP - SD)
7.3 Kerry Wood (SP - CHC)
7.4 Mark Loretta (2B - SD)
7.5 Joe Nathan (RP - MIN)
7.6 Jason Isringhausen (RP - STL)
7.7 Jason Varitek (C - BOS)
7.8 Mike Mussina (SP - NYY)
7.9 Rich Harden (SP - OAK)
7.10 Barry Zito (SP - OAK)
7.11 Jorge Posada (C - NYY)
7.12 Juan Uribe (2B,3B,SS - CWS)

8.12 Jaret Wright (SP - NYY)
8.11 Justin Morneau (1B - MIN)
8.10 Javy Lopez (C - BAL)
8.9 Joe Mauer (C - MIN)
8.8 Jeff Kent (2B - LA)
8.7 Mark Mulder (SP - STL)
8.6 Mike Piazza (C - NYM)
8.5 Scott Podsednik (CF - ChW)
8.4 Matt Morris (SP - STL)
8.3 Shawn Green (1B/OF - ARI)
8.2 Aaron Rowland (CF - ChW)
8.1 Carlos Lee (OF - MIL)

9.1 Jeremy Burnitz (CF - CHC)
9.2 Johnny Estrada (C - ATL)
9.3 Octavio Dotel (RP - OAK)
9.4 Roy Halladay (SP - TOR)
9.5 Bret Boone (2B - SEA)
9.6 Guilermo Mota (RP - FLA)
9.7 Mike Lowell (3B - FLA)
9.8 Derrek Lee, ChC (1B - CHC)
9.9 Ken Griffey Jr. (CF - CIN)
9.10 Orlando Cabrera (SS - LAA)
9.11 David Wright (3B - NYM)
9.12 Pedro Feliz (1B,3B,SS - SF)

10.12 Kelvin Escobar (SP - LAA)
10.11 Brad Radke (SP - MIN)
10.10 Moises Alou (OF - SF)
10.9 Bartolo Colon (SP - LAA)
10.8 Richie Sexson (1B - SEA)
10.7 Dan Kolb (RP - ATL)
10.6 Magglio Ordonez (OF - DET)
10.5 Jason Kendall (C - OAK)
10.4 JD Drew (OF - LAD)
10.3 Sean Casey (1B - CIN)
10.2 Chris Carpenter (SP - StL)
10.1 Paul Lo Duca (C - FLA)

11.1 Greg Maddux (SP - CHC)
11.2 Brian Giles (OF - SD)
11.3 Jeremy Bonderman (SP - DET)
11.4 Jason Marquis (SP - STL)
11.5 Livan Hernández (SP- WAS)
11.6 Troy Glaus (3B - ARI)
11.7 Trot Nixon (RF - BOS)
11.8 Javier Vazquez (SP - ARI)
11.9 Jason Bay (OF - PIT)
11.10 Odalis Perez (SP - LA)
11.11 Ray Durham (2B - SFG)
11.12 Ryan Freel (2B,3B,CF - CIN)

12.12 Mark Buehrle (SP - CHW)
12.11 CC Sabathia (SP - CLE)
12.10 Vernon Wells (CF - TOR)
12.9 Austin Kearns (OF - CIN)
12.8 A.J. Burnett (SP - FLA)
12.7 Yhency Brazoban (RP - LOS)
12.6 Garrett Anderson (CF - LAA)
12.5 Shingo Takatsu (RP - ChW)
12.4 Larry Walker (OF - StL)
12.3 Freddy Garcia (SP - ChW)
12.2 Jose Vidro (2B - WAS)
12.1 Danny Graves (RP - CIN)

13.1 Pat Burrell (OF - PHI)
13.2 Troy Percival (RP - DET)
13.3 Brian Roberts (2B - BAL)
13.4 Aaron Boone (3B - CLE)
13.5 Tom Gordon (RP - NYY)
13.6 Chase Utley (2B - PHI)
13.7 Lew Ford (CF - MIN)
13.8 Jose Mesa (RP - PIT)
13.9 Scott Kazmir ( SP - TB)
13.10 B.J. Ryan (RP - BAL)
13.11 Bob Wickman (RP - CLE)
13.12 Jake Westbrook (SP CLE)

14.12 Michael Barrett (C - CHC)
14.11 Phil Nevin (1B - SD)
14.10 Dave Roberts (CF - SD)
14.9 Tadahito Iguchi (2B - CHW)
14.8 Brad Penny (SP - LAD)
14.7 Jose Guillen (OF - WAS)
14.6 Derek Lowe (SP-LA)
14.5 Steve Finley (CF-LAA)
14.4 Braden Looper (RP -NYM)
14.3 LaTroy Hawkins (RP - CHC)
14.2 Jason Lane (OF - HOU)
14.1 David Wells (SP - BOS)

15.1 Rodrigo Lopez (SP/RP - BAL)
15.2 Zack Greinke (SP - KCR)
15.3 Juan Rincon (RP - MIN)
15.4 BAPAY (The name will come when I have time to look it up)
15.5 Doug Davis (SP-MIL?)
15.6 Eddie Guardado (RP-SEA)

	25-03-2005 03:51									#66
	Remove this text

15.7 andy pettitte (SP - HOU)

	25-03-2005 03:52									#67
	Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

1. City Hobgoblins - Stuie
2. Georgia Granies - Imran
3. Columbus Interns - Guynemer
4. The Arcade Fire - asleepatthewheel
5. Revenge of the Nerds - jdd
6. Berzerker - Berzerker
7. Your World Champions - LoA
8. Ramsey's Whiffers - gjramsey
9. Vancouver Isle Bears - vlad
10. Boston Rebels - The Emperor Fabulous
11. Houston's Owls of Rice - vlad anterkov
12. Apocalypses - Apocalypse

1.1 Albert Pujols (1B - STL)
1.2 Alex Rodriguez (3B - NYY)
1.3 Randy Johnson (SP - NYY)
1.4 Johan Santana (SP - MIN)
1.5 Barry Bonds (OF - SF)
1.6 Vlad Guerrero (OF - LAA)
1.7 Pedro Martinez (SP - NYM)
1.8 Carlos Beltran (OF - NYM)
1.9 Miguel Tejada (SS - BAL)
1.10 Alfonso Soriano (2B - TEX)
1.11 Bobby Abreu (OF - PHI)
1.12 Jason Schmidt (SP - SF)

2.12 Adrian Beltre (3B - SEA)
2.11 Manny Ramirez (OF - BOS)
2.10 Ichiro Suzuki (OF - SEA)
2.9 Scott Rolen (3B - STL)
2.8 Carl Crawford (CF - TB)
2.7 Mark Prior (SP - CHC)
2.6 Todd Helton (1B - COL)
2.5 Jim Thome (1B - PHI)
2.4 Eric Gagne (RP - LA)
2.3 Jim Edmonds (CF - StL)
2.2 Curt Schilling (SP - BOS)
2.1 Adam Dunn (1B/OF - CIN)

3.1 Melvin Mora (3B - BAL)
3.2 Miguel Cabrera (OF - FLA)
3.3 Derek Jeter (SS - NYY)
3.4 Mark Teixiera (1B - TEX)
3.5 Ben Sheets (SP - MIL)
3.6 Roger Clemens (SP - HOU)
3.7 David Ortiz (1B - BOS)
3.8 Aramis Ram?rez (3B - CHC)
3.9 Tim Hudson (SP - ATL)
3.10 Carlos Delgado (1B - FLA)
3.11 Keith Foulke (RP - BOS)
3.12 Brad Lidge (RP - HOU)

4.12 Johnny Damon (CF - BOS)
4.11 Mike Young (SS - TEX)
4.10 Mariano Rivera (RP - NYY)
4.9 Jake Peavy (SP - SD)
4.8 Gary Sheffield (OF - NYY)
4.7 Francisco Rodriguez (RP - LAA)
4.6 Carlos Zambrano (SP - CHI)
4.5 Oliver Perez (SP - PIT)
4.4 Carlos Guillen (SS - DET)
4.3 Aubrey Huff (1B/3B/OF - TB)
4.2 Nomar Garciaparra (SS - CHC)
4.1 Jimmy Rollins (SS - PHI)

5.1 Francisco Cordero (RP - TEX)
5.2 Roy Oswalt (SP - HOU)
5.3 Eric Chavez (3B - OAK)
5.4 Juan Pierre (CF - FLA)
5.5 Hank Blalock (3B - TEX)
5.6 Armando Benitez (RP - SFG)
5.7 Edgar Renteria (SS - BOS)
5.8 Rafael Furcal (SS - ATL)
5.9 John Smoltz (SP - ATL)
5.10 Josh Beckett (SP - FLA)
5.11 Matt Clement (SP - BOS)
5.12 Paul Konerko (1B - CWS)

6.12 Lance Berkman (OF - HOU)
6.11 Corey Patterson (CF - CHC)
6.10 Chipper Jones (3B/OF - ATL)
6.9 Sammy Sosa (OF - BAL)
6.8 Billy Wagner (RP - PHI)
6.7 Marcus Giles (2B - ATL)
6.6 Jose Reyes (2B/SS - NYM)
6.5 Hideki Matsui (OF - NYY)
6.4 Victor Martinez (C - CLE)
6.3 Ivan Rodriguez (C - DET)
6.2 Travis Hafner (1B - CLE)
6.1 Chone Figgins (All sorts of stuff - LAA)

7.1 Carl Pavano (SP - NYY)
7.2 Trevor Hoffman (RP - SD)
7.3 Kerry Wood (SP - CHC)
7.4 Mark Loretta (2B - SD)
7.5 Joe Nathan (RP - MIN)
7.6 Jason Isringhausen (RP - STL)
7.7 Jason Varitek (C - BOS)
7.8 Mike Mussina (SP - NYY)
7.9 Rich Harden (SP - OAK)
7.10 Barry Zito (SP - OAK)
7.11 Jorge Posada (C - NYY)
7.12 Juan Uribe (2B,3B,SS - CWS)

8.12 Jaret Wright (SP - NYY)
8.11 Justin Morneau (1B - MIN)
8.10 Javy Lopez (C - BAL)
8.9 Joe Mauer (C - MIN)
8.8 Jeff Kent (2B - LA)
8.7 Mark Mulder (SP - STL)
8.6 Mike Piazza (C - NYM)
8.5 Scott Podsednik (CF - ChW)
8.4 Matt Morris (SP - STL)
8.3 Shawn Green (1B/OF - ARI)
8.2 Aaron Rowland (CF - ChW)
8.1 Carlos Lee (OF - MIL)

9.1 Jeremy Burnitz (CF - CHC)
9.2 Johnny Estrada (C - ATL)
9.3 Octavio Dotel (RP - OAK)
9.4 Roy Halladay (SP - TOR)
9.5 Bret Boone (2B - SEA)
9.6 Guilermo Mota (RP - FLA)
9.7 Mike Lowell (3B - FLA)
9.8 Derrek Lee, ChC (1B - CHC)
9.9 Ken Griffey Jr. (CF - CIN)
9.10 Orlando Cabrera (SS - LAA)
9.11 David Wright (3B - NYM)
9.12 Pedro Feliz (1B,3B,SS - SF)

10.12 Kelvin Escobar (SP - LAA)
10.11 Brad Radke (SP - MIN)
10.10 Moises Alou (OF - SF)
10.9 Bartolo Colon (SP - LAA)
10.8 Richie Sexson (1B - SEA)
10.7 Dan Kolb (RP - ATL)
10.6 Magglio Ordonez (OF - DET)
10.5 Jason Kendall (C - OAK)
10.4 JD Drew (OF - LAD)
10.3 Sean Casey (1B - CIN)
10.2 Chris Carpenter (SP - StL)
10.1 Paul Lo Duca (C - FLA)

11.1 Greg Maddux (SP - CHC)
11.2 Brian Giles (OF - SD)
11.3 Jeremy Bonderman (SP - DET)
11.4 Jason Marquis (SP - STL)
11.5 Livan Hernández (SP- WAS)
11.6 Troy Glaus (3B - ARI)
11.7 Trot Nixon (RF - BOS)
11.8 Javier Vazquez (SP - ARI)
11.9 Jason Bay (OF - PIT)
11.10 Odalis Perez (SP - LA)
11.11 Ray Durham (2B - SFG)
11.12 Ryan Freel (2B,3B,CF - CIN)

12.12 Mark Buehrle (SP - CHW)
12.11 CC Sabathia (SP - CLE)
12.10 Vernon Wells (CF - TOR)
12.9 Austin Kearns (OF - CIN)
12.8 A.J. Burnett (SP - FLA)
12.7 Yhency Brazoban (RP - LOS)
12.6 Garrett Anderson (CF - LAA)
12.5 Shingo Takatsu (RP - ChW)
12.4 Larry Walker (OF - StL)
12.3 Freddy Garcia (SP - ChW)
12.2 Jose Vidro (2B - WAS)
12.1 Danny Graves (RP - CIN)

13.1 Pat Burrell (OF - PHI)
13.2 Troy Percival (RP - DET)
13.3 Brian Roberts (2B - BAL)
13.4 Aaron Boone (3B - CLE)
13.5 Tom Gordon (RP - NYY)
13.6 Chase Utley (2B - PHI)
13.7 Lew Ford (CF - MIN)
13.8 Jose Mesa (RP - PIT)
13.9 Scott Kazmir ( SP - TB)
13.10 B.J. Ryan (RP - BAL)
13.11 Bob Wickman (RP - CLE)
13.12 Jake Westbrook (SP CLE)

14.12 Michael Barrett (C - CHC)
14.11 Phil Nevin (1B - SD)
14.10 Dave Roberts (CF - SD)
14.9 Tadahito Iguchi (2B - CHW)
14.8 Brad Penny (SP - LAD)
14.7 Jose Guillen (OF - WAS)
14.6 Derek Lowe (SP-LA)
14.5 Steve Finley (CF-LAA)
14.4 Braden Looper (RP -NYM)
14.3 LaTroy Hawkins (RP - CHC)
14.2 Jason Lane (OF - HOU)
14.1 David Wells (SP - BOS)

15.1 Rodrigo Lopez (SP/RP - BAL)
15.2 Zack Greinke (SP - KCR)
15.3 Juan Rincon (RP - MIN)
15.4 BAPAY (The name will come when I have time to look it up)
15.5 Doug Davis (SP-MIL?)
15.6 Eddie Guardado (RP-SEA)
15.7 Andy Petitte sp? (SP - HOU)

	25-03-2005 03:55									#68
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Ramsey is up!

	25-03-2005 04:00									#69
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And you're up in poly 2

	25-03-2005 04:56									#70
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quote: Originally posted by The Emperor Fabulous That is so friggin annoying

**** you

quote: Yeah, I agree. It's also a royal pain in the ass. You are an owner, you can at least pick some people out of the blue. You can have SOME idea of what position you want, at least

and you

I bapayed myself so the draft could move forward and not waste time.

I won't bother to be helpful to you in the future.

	25-03-2005 05:01									#71
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Um... being helpful is LEAVING A LIST! Or being more specific than "BAPAY me". Why don't you go to Yahoo now and try to find the next in the list. It isn't an easy exercise this late in the draft.

And one of the reasons for the slow draft is for people to do research on their picks. By BAPAYing half your draft, you show you aren't putting in the effort that others may be to make this a good league.

	25-03-2005 05:18									#72
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui Um... being helpful is LEAVING A LIST! Or being more specific than "BAPAY me". Why don't you go to Yahoo now and try to find the next in the list. It isn't an easy exercise this late in the draft.

Sorry, I thought you were actually keeping track of these things.

quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui And one of the reasons for the slow draft is for people to do research on their picks. By BAPAYing half your draft, you show you aren't putting in the effort that others may be to make this a good league.

Have I bapayed half my draft? Please add it up. No need to use hyperbole Imran, unless you're trying to make this more personal. I only do it when I have no time and don't want the rounds stalling on me. Weren't you afraid just a few days ago that this wasn't moving fast enough?


Do I care about this draft? Sure I do. And I have drafted players taht I wanted the vast majority of the time. And I do care about my 14th pick, but when it rolled around, I had just awakened, and had to leave for a long ~10hr day of work, where I can neither check poly nor the fantasy page.

If this was such a fricking inconvenience to you, then a pm would have gotten the message across.

	25-03-2005 05:20									#73
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui Remember, we've gone to the 12 hour BAPAY, so if I'm not around, just pull the trigger, k?

I thought you would appreciate me authorizing this hours in advance of when it would become mandated (as had I not checked in, I would have missed the 12 hour mark)


oh well

	25-03-2005 05:23									#74
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forget him asleep - hes a lawyer.

	25-03-2005 05:25									#75
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quote: Sorry, I thought you were actually keeping track of these things.

Nope... don't look at who is next for BAPAY until needed. It would complicate things to no end.

quote: I only do it when I have no time and don't want the rounds stalling on me

When most people are afraid of that they send a list. It's much more responsive.

quote: If this was such a fricking inconvenience to you,

Berz indicated earlier that it usually is.

	25-03-2005 05:26									#76
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Good pick, jdd; Davis was next on my list.

	25-03-2005 05:30									#77
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quote: Originally posted by Lawrence of Arabia forget him asleep - hes a lawyer.

Its tough to make it to 3L, believe me, I know.

	25-03-2005 05:33									#78
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui quote: Sorry, I thought you were actually keeping track of these things. Nope... don't look at who is next for BAPAY until needed. It would complicate things to no end.

i misunderstood your role.

I will do my own bapay list, it should take 15 minutes.

	25-03-2005 05:34									#79
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Yeah, I'm not, as LoA seems to think, you guys' mommy. Berz knows how it is as FFZ, where everyone gets together to help. Everyone contributes in BAPAY's, PMing the next guy, etc, etc. I don't understand why, here, there is an assumption that the Commissioner should do everything and anything.

	25-03-2005 05:38									#80
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It takes maybe 5-10 minutes to make a selection, but for someone else to BAPAY us it takes longer because they have to find out if the absent manager has a position to fill and then find the BAPAY for that position. It is rough on the commish when the BAPAYs start piling up. Just get yourself maybe 30 minutes and make up a list, its alot easier for everyone else. But of course its better to ask for a BAPAY than let everyone wait the 12 hours

	25-03-2005 05:40									#81
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People, honestly. I work 80 hours a week, 30 hours at a stretch, during which time I have zero access to Poly. When I'm not at work, I'm exhausted and generally pissed off.

But even I still make the time and effort to make a real pick, or at least leave a list with someone. Jesus tap dancing Christ, is it really that difficult? Sack up.

	25-03-2005 05:47									#82
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I guess I need to take a catcher sometime.
1. City Hobgoblins - Stuie
2. Georgia Granies - Imran
3. Columbus Interns - Guynemer
4. The Arcade Fire - asleepatthewheel
5. Revenge of the Nerds - jdd
6. Berzerker - Berzerker
7. Your World Champions - LoA
8. Ramsey's Whiffers - gjramsey
9. Vancouver Isle Bears - vlad
10. Boston Rebels - The Emperor Fabulous
11. Houston's Owls of Rice - vlad anterkov
12. Apocalypses - Apocalypse

1.1 Albert Pujols (1B - STL)
1.2 Alex Rodriguez (3B - NYY)
1.3 Randy Johnson (SP - NYY)
1.4 Johan Santana (SP - MIN)
1.5 Barry Bonds (OF - SF)
1.6 Vlad Guerrero (OF - LAA)
1.7 Pedro Martinez (SP - NYM)
1.8 Carlos Beltran (OF - NYM)
1.9 Miguel Tejada (SS - BAL)
1.10 Alfonso Soriano (2B - TEX)
1.11 Bobby Abreu (OF - PHI)
1.12 Jason Schmidt (SP - SF)

2.12 Adrian Beltre (3B - SEA)
2.11 Manny Ramirez (OF - BOS)
2.10 Ichiro Suzuki (OF - SEA)
2.9 Scott Rolen (3B - STL)
2.8 Carl Crawford (CF - TB)
2.7 Mark Prior (SP - CHC)
2.6 Todd Helton (1B - COL)
2.5 Jim Thome (1B - PHI)
2.4 Eric Gagne (RP - LA)
2.3 Jim Edmonds (CF - StL)
2.2 Curt Schilling (SP - BOS)
2.1 Adam Dunn (1B/OF - CIN)

3.1 Melvin Mora (3B - BAL)
3.2 Miguel Cabrera (OF - FLA)
3.3 Derek Jeter (SS - NYY)
3.4 Mark Teixiera (1B - TEX)
3.5 Ben Sheets (SP - MIL)
3.6 Roger Clemens (SP - HOU)
3.7 David Ortiz (1B - BOS)
3.8 Aramis Ram?rez (3B - CHC)
3.9 Tim Hudson (SP - ATL)
3.10 Carlos Delgado (1B - FLA)
3.11 Keith Foulke (RP - BOS)
3.12 Brad Lidge (RP - HOU)

4.12 Johnny Damon (CF - BOS)
4.11 Mike Young (SS - TEX)
4.10 Mariano Rivera (RP - NYY)
4.9 Jake Peavy (SP - SD)
4.8 Gary Sheffield (OF - NYY)
4.7 Francisco Rodriguez (RP - LAA)
4.6 Carlos Zambrano (SP - CHI)
4.5 Oliver Perez (SP - PIT)
4.4 Carlos Guillen (SS - DET)
4.3 Aubrey Huff (1B/3B/OF - TB)
4.2 Nomar Garciaparra (SS - CHC)
4.1 Jimmy Rollins (SS - PHI)

5.1 Francisco Cordero (RP - TEX)
5.2 Roy Oswalt (SP - HOU)
5.3 Eric Chavez (3B - OAK)
5.4 Juan Pierre (CF - FLA)
5.5 Hank Blalock (3B - TEX)
5.6 Armando Benitez (RP - SFG)
5.7 Edgar Renteria (SS - BOS)
5.8 Rafael Furcal (SS - ATL)
5.9 John Smoltz (SP - ATL)
5.10 Josh Beckett (SP - FLA)
5.11 Matt Clement (SP - BOS)
5.12 Paul Konerko (1B - CWS)

6.12 Lance Berkman (OF - HOU)
6.11 Corey Patterson (CF - CHC)
6.10 Chipper Jones (3B/OF - ATL)
6.9 Sammy Sosa (OF - BAL)
6.8 Billy Wagner (RP - PHI)
6.7 Marcus Giles (2B - ATL)
6.6 Jose Reyes (2B/SS - NYM)
6.5 Hideki Matsui (OF - NYY)
6.4 Victor Martinez (C - CLE)
6.3 Ivan Rodriguez (C - DET)
6.2 Travis Hafner (1B - CLE)
6.1 Chone Figgins (All sorts of stuff - LAA)

7.1 Carl Pavano (SP - NYY)
7.2 Trevor Hoffman (RP - SD)
7.3 Kerry Wood (SP - CHC)
7.4 Mark Loretta (2B - SD)
7.5 Joe Nathan (RP - MIN)
7.6 Jason Isringhausen (RP - STL)
7.7 Jason Varitek (C - BOS)
7.8 Mike Mussina (SP - NYY)
7.9 Rich Harden (SP - OAK)
7.10 Barry Zito (SP - OAK)
7.11 Jorge Posada (C - NYY)
7.12 Juan Uribe (2B,3B,SS - CWS)

8.12 Jaret Wright (SP - NYY)
8.11 Justin Morneau (1B - MIN)
8.10 Javy Lopez (C - BAL)
8.9 Joe Mauer (C - MIN)
8.8 Jeff Kent (2B - LA)
8.7 Mark Mulder (SP - STL)
8.6 Mike Piazza (C - NYM)
8.5 Scott Podsednik (CF - ChW)
8.4 Matt Morris (SP - STL)
8.3 Shawn Green (1B/OF - ARI)
8.2 Aaron Rowland (CF - ChW)
8.1 Carlos Lee (OF - MIL)

9.1 Jeremy Burnitz (CF - CHC)
9.2 Johnny Estrada (C - ATL)
9.3 Octavio Dotel (RP - OAK)
9.4 Roy Halladay (SP - TOR)
9.5 Bret Boone (2B - SEA)
9.6 Guilermo Mota (RP - FLA)
9.7 Mike Lowell (3B - FLA)
9.8 Derrek Lee, ChC (1B - CHC)
9.9 Ken Griffey Jr. (CF - CIN)
9.10 Orlando Cabrera (SS - LAA)
9.11 David Wright (3B - NYM)
9.12 Pedro Feliz (1B,3B,SS - SF)

10.12 Kelvin Escobar (SP - LAA)
10.11 Brad Radke (SP - MIN)
10.10 Moises Alou (OF - SF)
10.9 Bartolo Colon (SP - LAA)
10.8 Richie Sexson (1B - SEA)
10.7 Dan Kolb (RP - ATL)
10.6 Magglio Ordonez (OF - DET)
10.5 Jason Kendall (C - OAK)
10.4 JD Drew (OF - LAD)
10.3 Sean Casey (1B - CIN)
10.2 Chris Carpenter (SP - StL)
10.1 Paul Lo Duca (C - FLA)

11.1 Greg Maddux (SP - CHC)
11.2 Brian Giles (OF - SD)
11.3 Jeremy Bonderman (SP - DET)
11.4 Jason Marquis (SP - STL)
11.5 Livan Hernández (SP- WAS)
11.6 Troy Glaus (3B - ARI)
11.7 Trot Nixon (RF - BOS)
11.8 Javier Vazquez (SP - ARI)
11.9 Jason Bay (OF - PIT)
11.10 Odalis Perez (SP - LA)
11.11 Ray Durham (2B - SFG)
11.12 Ryan Freel (2B,3B,CF - CIN)

12.12 Mark Buehrle (SP - CHW)
12.11 CC Sabathia (SP - CLE)
12.10 Vernon Wells (CF - TOR)
12.9 Austin Kearns (OF - CIN)
12.8 A.J. Burnett (SP - FLA)
12.7 Yhency Brazoban (RP - LOS)
12.6 Garrett Anderson (CF - LAA)
12.5 Shingo Takatsu (RP - ChW)
12.4 Larry Walker (OF - StL)
12.3 Freddy Garcia (SP - ChW)
12.2 Jose Vidro (2B - WAS)
12.1 Danny Graves (RP - CIN)

13.1 Pat Burrell (OF - PHI)
13.2 Troy Percival (RP - DET)
13.3 Brian Roberts (2B - BAL)
13.4 Aaron Boone (3B - CLE)
13.5 Tom Gordon (RP - NYY)
13.6 Chase Utley (2B - PHI)
13.7 Lew Ford (CF - MIN)
13.8 Jose Mesa (RP - PIT)
13.9 Scott Kazmir ( SP - TB)
13.10 B.J. Ryan (RP - BAL)
13.11 Bob Wickman (RP - CLE)
13.12 Jake Westbrook (SP CLE)

14.12 Michael Barrett (C - CHC)
14.11 Phil Nevin (1B - SD)
14.10 Dave Roberts (CF - SD)
14.9 Tadahito Iguchi (2B - CHW)
14.8 Brad Penny (SP - LAD)
14.7 Jose Guillen (OF - WAS)
14.6 Derek Lowe (SP-LA)
14.5 Steve Finley (CF-LAA)
14.4 Braden Looper (RP -NYM)
14.3 LaTroy Hawkins (RP - CHC)
14.2 Jason Lane (OF - HOU)
14.1 David Wells (SP - BOS)

15.1 Rodrigo Lopez (SP/RP - BAL)
15.2 Zack Greinke (SP - KCR)
15.3 Juan Rincon (RP - MIN)
15.4 BAPAY (The name will come when I have time to look it up)
15.5 Doug Davis (SP-MIL?)
15.6 Eddie Guardado (RP-SEA)
15.7 Andy Petitte sp? (SP - HOU)
15.8 Mike Lieberthal (C - Phi)

	25-03-2005 06:10									#83
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vlad is up in both leagues

	25-03-2005 06:13									#84
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quote: Originally posted by Guynemer People, honestly. I work 80 hours a week, 30 hours at a stretch, during which time I have zero access to Poly. When I'm not at work, I'm exhausted and generally pissed off. But even I still make the time and effort to make a real pick, or at least leave a list with someone. Jesus tap dancing Christ, is it really that difficult? Sack up.

You're a good man, Guy .

And thanks Berz... you are good people too.

Btw, it's been close to 45 minutes from when asleep said it would take him 15 minutes to make a BAPAY list . Just saying is all .

	25-03-2005 06:18									#85
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I had second thoughts about doing it, I'd rather Asleep just make a pick. Like Chris said at FFZ, why look for a Bapay only for the person to show up and change it.

	25-03-2005 06:23									#86
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That's true... though for a while there Jeff Weaver bounced around for like 4 or 5 BAPAYs . So that wasn't that hard... until someone actually stuck with him... bastard .

	25-03-2005 07:53									#87
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Sent to Imran.

If Vlad doesn't show up, can I pick for him?

	25-03-2005 07:54									#88
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Yes .

	25-03-2005 09:38									#89
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Bump for vlad.

	25-03-2005 09:51									#90
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quote: Yeah, I'm not, as LoA seems to think, you guys' mommy. Berz knows how it is as FFZ, where everyone gets together to help. Everyone contributes in BAPAY's, PMing the next guy, etc, etc. I don't understand why, here, there is an assumption that the Commissioner should do everything and anything.

it must be your first time in a leadership role - its easy to tell, you are too heavy handed, and you dont listen enough to others. i know you might find this hard to understand and that there might be lots of smilieys and stuff in your response, but in the end, the way the league is run, all the ups and downs, come back to you. at FFZ, everyone respects the commie, so they put in extra work. thats all directly reflected in the commies leadership skills. he has them motivated and makes them feel a part of it. its as simple as that.