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Kontiki
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Aug 2001
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There's alot of pretty good equipment out there, so if you're not a true audiophile, you shouldn't have trouble finding something that suits you for a decent price - by which I mean a minimum of $1200 Cdn (assuming a very basic system).
A few things to keep in mind in general:
- Never, ever, EVER buy a home-theatre-in-a-box system if you want decent sound. The basic laws of physics are important in sound - you simply cannot get good, rich sound out of the tiny thin speakers that most of these have.
- Don't be swayed by power output - sound qualilty has just about nothing to do with it. My system (which I woudn't even call particularly great - Denon receiver/amp, Yamaha CD player, Bose speakers (my weakest point) and an Energy sub) doesn't have that much wattage compared to one of those cheap 500W JVC boomboxes, but it sounds about a million times better.
- For the love of God, don't ever think that getting "expensive" speakers and hooking them up to your PC will sound good. It just won't.
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Whaleboy
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Please make all cheques payable to Whaleboy
Jan 2003
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You get what you pay for? They sound tinny, too terse and too forward whereas mine are more laid back and transparent. Also mine are squidgey. Pwned!
Note the fact that yours aren't bi-wired and have a smaller internal volume with smaller drivers, meaning they have a preference for high-mid range frequences, which coupled with the high wattage and your admittedly low-resistance amp, means anything imperfect becomes evident which you probably notice with more orchestral music.
Last edited by Whaleboy on 25-03-2005 at 06:09
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Drogue
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Omnipresent conscience
Oct 2002
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 facts make good speakers! Yes, gentlemen, it's all about the capacity, the wattage, the size of them! Absolutely nothing to do with how they sound, it's all about measurable statistics.
Yep, an Mozart's violin only sounded particularly nice because it's chamber was bigger than a typical violin. Oh, wait, it wasn't.
Biwiring makes almost no difference, and internal volume isn't that important, otherwise floorstanders would always be vastly better than bookshelves. I'd rather have £2000 Kef reference bookshelves than Q35 floorstanders. It's not size that matters, it's how good they sound.
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Whaleboy
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Please make all cheques payable to Whaleboy
Jan 2003
time: 05:19
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facts make good speakers! Yes, gentlemen, it's all about the capacity, the wattage, the size of them! Absolutely nothing to do with how they sound, it's all about measurable statistics.
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And, pray tell, how do you propose measuring how they sound? It is surely not surprising that the ears of collosal prikcs are bound to sound the same, a characteristic no doubt of both who spend more time writing about their hatred of Kent than actually listening to music.
If you want to talk about speaker quality, then you want to talk about measurable characteristics, leaving the consumer to decide upon his preference.
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Yep, an Mozart's violin only sounded particularly nice because it's chamber was bigger than a typical violin. Oh, wait, it wasn't.
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Mozard didn't own a violin for much of his life. It's a common misconception that Mozart composed his violin concertos on that instrument, the majority was on the piano.
And the biggest factor in determining the quality of any instrument, and as a proficient saxophonist you should be aware of this; is the player  .
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internal volume isn't that important, otherwise floorstanders would always be vastly better than bookshelves
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Floorstanders aren't so much bigger for two reasons; practicality, shadowing and negative echos cancelling out the lower frequencies which is a problem for very large chambers (bigger chamber, lower resonant freq.)
The size of the chamber is absolutely crucial, it determines the resonant frequency of the entire unit, the degree of shadowing, the response in high-frequencies and to an extent, the degree of diffraction, second only in that regard to the driver itself, whereby the less diffraction, the further higher-freqs will travel, since they degrade faster. This is why you could have a 100W set of headphones but because of high diffusing you take them an inch from your ear and previously high-quality sound is lost.
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It's not size that matters, it's how good they sound.
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Pretty much the entire premise of your argument; woefully simplistic on one count, embarrassingly erroneous on another.
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Drogue
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Omnipresent conscience
Oct 2002
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Originally posted by Provost Harrison
Well, you've been utterly useless thus far. And the price will be in the hundreds of pounds, not thousands  |
Really? Those links weren't to anything that appeals, not the advice given by loads of people? We're not talking about thosands, you can find a really decent system for ~£700 new or ~£400 second hand looking at the stuff we've put there.
If you actually want help, some info, like ho much you want to spend, what type of music you listen to, what you want in a hi-fi system (ie. something loud and engaging, something detailed, something you can relax to, etc.), we could probably be more help.
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24-03-2005 19:48
I'm not getting into your petty speaker argument again. They're reviewed as been exceptionally clear and detailed for the price, so hey. And yes, there's a difference between good and bad quality cables. Not between decent non-branded ones and 10 times the price branded cables. You don't need to spent hundreds to get decent cables.
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