05-04-2005 06:49									#31
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quote: Originally posted by binTravkin Im wondering what you're complaining about..

No one was posting their e-mail addies, and there's no discussion about game settings.

So, what game settings would everyone prefer?

quote: You have already too much players (3-4 is optimal) and you just need to find a CMN (which is your job if CMN doesn't appear himself).

Regarding the # of players, Zalek and Chickenbrain haven't posted here at all anymore after announcing they'd like to participate. Which isn't really an encouraging sign for future activity. And to be honeest, I'd like this to be a game with veteran players, and as far as I can tell Zalek and Chickenbrain don't have much PBEM experience (my apologies if this isn't true). Which means they'd be probably be easily overrun, which isn't fun for them either.

So personally I'd prefer to play the game with AndiD, Hercules and GeoModder. Would that be ok for you guys??

quote: Originally posted by dacole so goog is not around currently? Is he ok..he is an amazing cmn the ac game he set up for me recently was the first time I've seen the peacekeeprs beat a uni player (me) to the HT wonder (had to change my strategy a bit was interesting)

He's already back again. Was just unavailable for a few days, around the time I started this thread.

	05-04-2005 11:02									#32
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quote: I can tell Zalek and Chickenbrain don't have much PBEM experience (my apologies if this isn't true). Which means they'd be probably be easily overrun

I can not tell you much about ChickenBrain, but Zalek is one of the most active players @CGN and I think he'd even overrun you if got some luck.

Please hesitate before making such statements. People might take them as an insult. If you said this about me, I'd be pretty insulted.

Some players here have lots of expierence but still play worse than relatively new ones. I for myself have 5 years SMACX, 2 years MP, >1 year PBEM expierence. With each PBEM I earn something new, but it does not change much. If you haven't got strategical thinking, no expierence can help you. Hercules is in 2 games with me and can confirm that although im quite less expierenced than him Im faring pretty well.
The same is true with Zalek. He's new but he's good.


About game settings. Cmon, you're Spartan - go on and state your most favourite and then discuss them if someone prefers something different!


As you started this, you should organise it.

	05-04-2005 14:10									#33
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And check the thread again, I've posted my addy AND some preferences already.

	05-04-2005 20:25									#34
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How about these rules?

I don't really care about spoils of the war. I assume they'd be beneficial for the Cult and Spartans, but whatever.

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	05-04-2005 20:39									#35
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Spoils of War is also beneficial to the AI, don't forget that.

For the rules:

	05-04-2005 21:07									#36
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You may want switch intense rivalry on if you gonna have beefed AIs.

Them being too friendly to someone does no good to gameplay..

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quote: Originally posted by Maniac He's already back again. Was just unavailable for a few days, around the time I started this thread.

I'm available to CMN the game, if needed - but I see that Ouro_827 has already volunteered, so I don't want to step on any toes

(Ouro - do you want to collaborate on this one, and I'll walk you through some of the innovations we CMN's have come up with for making the AI more competitive?)

	06-04-2005 05:28									#38
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quote: Originally posted by binTravkin You may want switch intense rivalry on if you gonna have beefed AIs.

Personally I'd prefer no intense rivalry, or preset likes and dislikes of AI factions to this or that human faction. I rather like the AI attitude towards you to depend fully on how you act to them.

Also one of the main reasons I like the Spartans is because they can explore faster, and meet other factions earlier to make all kinds of deals. Intense rivarly would partially eliminate this dimension of the game.

	06-04-2005 10:32									#39
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The same goes for Morgan & Commerce.

I don't mind beefed up AIs - technologically and in terms of intelligence if that is possible but I would mind numb aggressors as AI.

	07-04-2005 06:05									#40
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It isn't stepping on my toes. Never mind that I go around in bare feet. I'd love to see what exactly you do to tune up the AI! You have my e-mail from another game, I believe. Glad to be of service!

	08-04-2005 19:39									#41
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Well (Ouro, I'll e-mail you regularly with suggestions/comments, etc) it looks like a fab four:

Maniac - Sparta
AndiD - Morgan
hercules - Drones
GeoModder - Cult

with the AI as Hive, University and Gaians

Standard map, and in-game rules as suggested by Maniac, as well as external conduct rules

Unanswered questions:

• Average settings, or abundant native life for the Cult and Gaians (or tweaked to give their 2 factions lotsa fungus and towers?)
  
• 50% to 70% water (like the default Planet - and earth)?
  
• AI to be a credible threat, but not uber-factions
  
• Disable the Empath Guild and the Cloudbase Academy (grossly game-imbalancing for PBEMs?) or leave them in with 80% odds that the Gaians and University, respectively, will get them? (only Ouro can ask me how that's done!!)

	08-04-2005 21:34									#42
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I am happy with these proposals.

And yes disable CBA and the Empath Guild.

	08-04-2005 22:04									#43
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I prefer abundant native life of course.
But I'll settle for a little red paradise around my starting location.

	11-04-2005 16:57									#44
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Well, i fear you droped me from this. No bad feelings about it, but what do i need to do if i want to be part of a SMAC / SMAX. And of course it might be that i will be overrun soon. Anyhow it is still a pleasure to play against human beeings compared to dumb AI which annoys and usually only wins because of unfair game settings.

	11-04-2005 17:04									#45
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quote: but what do i need to do if i want to be part of a SMAC / SMAX

Take advice from this thread and start a new one announcing you want SMAX. You can also go to CGN and sign up for next tournament or ask for H2H game.

	11-04-2005 20:06									#46
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Sounds fine for me - I'm neutral about abundant native life vs. just boosted positions for Gaia and Cult.

Sounds like a tough game, then

Morgan question: Stockpile energy allowed?

	11-04-2005 22:20									#47
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quote: Originally posted by Maniac (in the first post) Stockpiling in Build Queues allowed at any time

	12-04-2005 19:24									#48
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So the advice is to use www.civgaming.net?

	12-04-2005 19:39									#49
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No, advice is to post a thread like this one, but if you're lazy you can just sign up there, you won't need to discuss practically anything, just wait a bit while you have needed player count and then wait a bit more while I make it.

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Com'on people, let's get this moving...

	16-04-2005 14:24									#51
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I totally agree with Geo in that matter...

	16-04-2005 19:11									#52
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Well, I was kinda waiting for a Manaic reply to this:

quote: Originally posted by Googlie Or you could make it a six-way PBEM with Zalek and Chickenbrain added - or, Maniac, you could be in 2 parallel PBEMs with Zalek replacing AndiD as Morgan and Chickenbrain replacing Hercules (different map, and maybe different AI, of course)

But if the concensus is to go with Maniac-Hercules-GeoModder-AndiD, then Ouro and I can get cracking

	16-04-2005 19:43									#53
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Woops, I didn't know you were waiting for my reply.

I'd indeed prefer only this PBEM with the people you mentioned. I don't want to start too many PBEMs to avoid that I'd have too little time when things get busier again.

	16-04-2005 21:01									#54
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Be more specific, Maniac!!

Do you want a 6 player PBEM, or a 3-4 player (if Herc is still with us).

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	17-04-2005 04:57									#56
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I am still here.

	20-04-2005 05:49									#57
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*Pokes* You people want to give input on water? Or what?

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62 percent.

	21-04-2005 19:13									#59
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quote: Originally posted by Ouro_827 *Pokes* You people want to give input on water? Or what?

Just wondering: are you and Googlie currently busy setting up this game? I'm unsure what is happening if anything is happening, and what info would still be required.

	21-04-2005 20:25									#60
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Ouro and I are working on it - have exchanged ideas and are curently looking at possible maps

Bear with us just a little longer ...... (it's worth the wait to get it right first time)