04-04-2005 11:25									#31
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Yep, don't cause waves while your stuff is still in their house. I've heard horror sotries about pissed off landlords/roommates. Next do what I did and only live with people the same general age as you because it saves a lot of hassles. Once I rented a room from this 40 year old black divorcee with a five year old wo loved to scream at 5am and was still poopng his pants. She'd go snooping in my room and complain if I drank beer in my own room ("because I have a small child") which is fair enough but she should have mentioned that in the lease. Finally she became a born again Christian and went totally psycho on me complaining about the "pagan" things I had in my room. I had a few D&D books and a Buddha statue I had bought in Thailand. :rolleys:

The final straw was she told me to get rid of my wine collection. My girlfriend at the time and I loved to spend vacations traveling the California coast and going wine tasting at the hundreds of small wineries whose products you couldn't find at the store. Thus I had a decent sized collection of wines I was aging and when she became born again she decided alcohol was the devil's juice and told me either the wine collection (stored neatly in a wine rack I had bought) was gone by the weekend (it was thursday) or I had to be out by Sunday. My lease said she had to give 30 days notice and I pointed that out but she started screaming and saying she'd throw all my things out and change the locks so I just packed my stuff and left.

I know I could have sued her and won but I just couldn't be bothered. I just filled a report with the campus housing authority and she was no longer allowed to advertise to students through the campus housing authority's web site. Take my advice and room with people your own age.

	04-04-2005 18:08									#32
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quote: Originally posted by Oerdin My guess is he's just a snoopy old man. Asher just wise up and get your own place.

"My own place"?

I move 2,000km west in 5 months, that makes getting my own place a bit impractical.

	04-04-2005 18:10									#33
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Month to month leases are your friend.

	04-04-2005 18:34									#34
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Asher, Move out now before you end up one of the people under the stairs!

BTW what software/hardware etc did you use for all this. I'm very interested.

	04-04-2005 18:40									#35
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quote: Originally posted by SpencerH Asher, Move out now before you end up one of the people under the stairs! BTW what software/hardware etc did you use for all this. I'm very interested.

PC and Creative Webcam NX Pro. The Webcam came with all this software for free.

This is the software:

quote: Creative WebCam Monitor Using sophisticated motion detection algorithm, WebCam Monitor detects and captures a picture whenever anybody or anything gets near your PC. Just point your camera, pick a capture mode (either regular intervals or motion detection) and WebCam Monitor does the rest. The software is able to automatically sound an alarm, send you e-mail, or even upload a snapshot to your Web site. WebCam Monitor includes a collection of web templates and graphics so you can show your images to the world even without knowing HTML!

	04-04-2005 18:42									#36
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Moving is a huge pain in the ass and I don't think I have it in me to move again, and I'm pretty sure they'd keep the deposit I'd given them as well as this month's rent, so I'd be out $1000 on top of having to pay another deposit and first-month's-rent on a new place. :|

	04-04-2005 18:45									#37
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Can you put a lock on the door...

	04-04-2005 18:47									#38
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quote: Originally posted by Ming Can you put a lock on the door...

FAR too low tech

	04-04-2005 18:54									#39
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quote: Originally posted by Drake Tungsten quote: In almost any state, they need to give you 24 hours notice. He doesn't live in the states, though. Canada lacks many of the freedoms we take for granted, so I wouldn't be so sure things work the same there in this situation.

Actually, for renter's rights we're a lot better than the US.

	04-04-2005 18:56									#40
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Quebec especially is very strong when it comes to renter's rights.

	04-04-2005 18:56									#41
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quote: Originally posted by reds4ever FAR too low tech

It's more complex than that.

My "bedroom" has 2 doors -- one of which has a lock on it, and I do lock. The other door leads into the rest of the "apartment" (the first leads into the house), which I can't lock because Ben (the guy who lives in the other room in the apartment) uses a closet behind that door. I have a plastic curtain thing to close between that closet and my room, but it doesn't lock.

The entrance to the apartment needs to be open because another guy in the basement (named Toby) needs to use the bathroom in the apartment as well.

	04-04-2005 19:01									#42
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quote: Originally posted by Asher PC and Creative Webcam NX Pro. The Webcam came with all this software for free.

Thanks. IMO the software looks to be worth more than the webcam. Amazing!

	04-04-2005 19:38									#43
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quote: Originally posted by Asher It's more complex than that. My "bedroom" has 2 doors -- one of which has a lock on it, and I do lock. The other door leads into the rest of the "apartment" (the first leads into the house), which I can't lock because Ben (the guy who lives in the other room in the apartment) uses a closet behind that door. I have a plastic curtain thing to close between that closet and my room, but it doesn't lock. The entrance to the apartment needs to be open because another guy in the basement (named Toby) needs to use the bathroom in the apartment as well.

wow-- it sounds like the norm is for a heck of a lot of guys to be traipsing through your bedroom . . . . Something you might even have favored before you found your committed relationship .

On locks-- I think that a tenant can't put a lock on an apartment without giving the landlord a key. The idea is that the landlord as owner must always have the ability to have access but may only legally do so with notice or in an emergency etc.

	04-04-2005 19:48									#44
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quote: Originally posted by Drake Tungsten quote: In almost any state, they need to give you 24 hours notice. He doesn't live in the states, though. Canada lacks many of the freedoms we take for granted, so I wouldn't be so sure things work the same there in this situation.

The line was cast and one bite. 7/10 for the attempt.

	04-04-2005 20:28									#45
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quote: Originally posted by Flubber wow-- it sounds like the norm is for a heck of a lot of guys to be traipsing through your bedroom . . . . Something you might even have favored before you found your committed relationship .

Only the one guy comes in my bedroom (Ben), and it's more of coming in the hallway before my bedroom. There are two closets in the hallway, then my bedroom...but the door is before the closets. I have a plastic curtain slider thing to close between the closets and my room.

That said, Ben is really hot and walks around in his CK boxerbriefs after 9pm-ish He lived in the room next to me at the old place. Mechanical Engineering student from Waterloo.

He has a girlfriend, though.

	04-04-2005 21:05									#46
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Your right to privacy is usually dictated by the laws of the state or province you're in. You need to check the local laws.

In Calif., your landlord would be in big trouble.

	04-04-2005 21:07									#47
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Wow, that's some creepy crap. Have you read your landlord thr riot act yet, or are you going to keep filming?

I can see him turning it around and telling you off for daring to leave yor gas-guzzling PC on while you were out though. Naughty boy.

	04-04-2005 21:14									#48
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quote: Originally posted by Zkribbler Your right to privacy is usually dictated by the laws of the state or province you're in. You need to check the local laws.

Which is why I posted some of the relevant provisions

	04-04-2005 21:50									#49
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quote: Originally posted by Gibsie Wow, that's some creepy crap. Have you read your landlord thr riot act yet, or are you going to keep filming? I can see him turning it around and telling you off for daring to leave yor gas-guzzling PC on while you were out though. Naughty boy.

He approached me about that yesterday. It's on 24/7 for work purposes, and that's that. He said that was fine.

	04-04-2005 21:56									#50
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Basement apartments are legal in Toronto? Here in NYC they are illegal (yet extremely common, which leads to heaps of tenant abuse)

	04-04-2005 21:57									#51
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Slightly off topic, but are you each paying $500, as in $1000 total rent for a two bedroom basement suite in (presumably) Markham? Isn't that a little steep?

	04-04-2005 22:18									#52
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After reading the preceding facts and fellow poster advice.....

Two assumptions:

1) You are in Toronto or elsewhere in the province of Ontario
2) You share a kitchen and/or bathroom with the owner.


In Ontario you are protected by the Tenant Protection Act IF you qualify as a tenant. If my 2nd assumption is correct (shared facilities) then you do not qualify for this act's protections.

By definition you are a "roomer" or boarder and have virtually no rights in this province. Sorry.

	04-04-2005 22:25									#53
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So have you confronted him already?

From the video and his behavior I think he wanted to check out to get more information about you behind your back to decide what kind of person you are. He didn't dare to touch anything though and it doesn't look like he'd be mean.

You could hide the video and meet with him for a little bit of talking to ease him and let the cam run for another week afterwards. If he still intrudes there is something fishy. I think it's better not to play your trump card too early.

Sometimes people are just a bit too curious.

	04-04-2005 22:31									#54
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quote: Originally posted by Kontiki Slightly off topic, but are you each paying $500, as in $1000 total rent for a two bedroom basement suite in (presumably) Markham? Isn't that a little steep?

Yeah, each $500. And it's par for the course from what I've looked at and seen, it's a large room and such in a really nice house (4,500 sq feet) in a really nice neighborhood.

quote: After reading the preceding facts and fellow poster advice..... Two assumptions: 1) You are in Toronto or elsewhere in the province of Ontario 2) You share a kitchen and/or bathroom with the owner. In Ontario you are protected by the Tenant Protection Act IF you qualify as a tenant. If my 2nd assumption is correct (shared facilities) then you do not qualify for this act's protections. By definition you are a "roomer" or boarder and have virtually no rights in this province. Sorry.

1 is correct, the house is technically in Richmond Hill, Ontario
2 is not correct, I share the kitchen and bathroom with Ben, the other basement tenant who is to move in tonight. The owners have their own kitchen and bathrooms upstairs.

	04-04-2005 22:33									#55
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quote: Originally posted by Atahualpa So have you confronted him already? From the video and his behavior I think he wanted to check out to get more information about you behind your back to decide what kind of person you are. He didn't dare to touch anything though and it doesn't look like he'd be mean. You could hide the video and meet with him for a little bit of talking to ease him and let the cam run for another week afterwards. If he still intrudes there is something fishy. I think it's better not to play your trump card too early. Sometimes people are just a bit too curious.

This is the approach I'm planning on taking now after I've cooled off a bit. I'm leaving the camera running while I'm at work or otherwise out of the house.

It looks like he may have just been checking to see if I unplugged the mini-fridge...

If he keeps it up, I'll use the trump card on him.

	04-04-2005 22:35									#56
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quote: Originally posted by Atahualpa So have you confronted him already? From the video and his behavior I think he wanted to check out to get more information about you behind your back to decide what kind of person you are. He didn't dare to touch anything though and it doesn't look like he'd be mean. You could hide the video and meet with him for a little bit of talking to ease him and let the cam run for another week afterwards. If he still intrudes there is something fishy. I think it's better not to play your trump card too early. Sometimes people are just a bit too curious.

Ditto

Tell him you noticed things moved around and wonder if it was possible that somebody was in your room. That might startle him enought to stay out.

Waterloo huh?
I was just there a week or so ago to see Remi Boucher.

	04-04-2005 22:35									#57
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You have rights then Asher.

Do you know where to find the info online?

	04-04-2005 22:36									#58
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quote: Originally posted by Max Webster Waterloo huh? I was just there a week or so ago to see Remi Boucher.

Got ya beat...I was there this morning.

	04-04-2005 22:37									#59
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quote: Originally posted by Max Webster Ditto Tell him you noticed things moved around and wonder if it was possible that somebody was in your room. That might startle him enought to stay out. Waterloo huh? I was just there a week or so ago to see Remi Boucher.

I'm in Waterloo on the majority of weekends. Friday afternoon through Sunday evening.

If he enters again, I'm going to bring up the point of privacy.

If he enters after that, I'll show him the tapes and tell him he needs to give 24hrs notice.

	04-04-2005 23:29									#60
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quote: Originally posted by TCO In almost any state, they need to give you 24 hours notice. The lack of a formal lease is irrelevant. Just tell them kindly that you would like 24 hours notice for any entrance to your dwelling (except for emergencies). Act confident. Beleive me, they will know what that is. Absent a lease, they (or you) can leave with 30 days notice.

hahaha, yea which state is he in again