11-04-2005 11:20									#31
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quote: Originally posted by Provost Harrison So you couldn't just plug in an iPod and copy from your computer to the device? That would be crap...

You can, and you don't need special software or iTunes.

The iPod works like a portable HD.

	11-04-2005 11:23									#32
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quote: You don't think it's user friendly to have a device icon on your system, then when you drag a music file there it'll add it to the device library?

Only if you treat your music files like any other file, instead of using a task based interface like itunes. I thought Windows was supposed to be about task based interfaces -- what a joke. I never look at the music files on my system. They are buried in some folder somewhere -- itunes adds them automatically, and trashes them automatically if I command delete them from its library. Hunting through the hard drive to find music files? - no thanks.

And I was forced to use XP the other day. What a piece of ****, it can't even display Unicode Greek with all the accents properly, and IE is just retarded (I love that stupid dog that wags its tail while you search for ****).

How anyone could get any work done with that crap is beyond me.

	11-04-2005 11:34									#33
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Someone wants to pick a fight... I bet you look like that tough dude in Once Were Warriors.

	11-04-2005 14:54									#34
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quote: Originally posted by DRoseDARs @ Alva, Bkeela I will never go back to casettes if I can help it. I didn't enjoy carrying around bulky casettes; I didn't enjoy carrying around bulky CDs. This was the main reason I decided against a MiniDisk player a few years back, instead opting for my first MP3 player. MP3 > Casettes + CDs + MiniDisks

My "Yes" was that he is the only one still using casettes,

	11-04-2005 15:03									#35
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Here's something to consider:

" A new $29 Camera Connector lets the iPod Photo double as an enormous backup for your digital camera. Using this tiny adapter, you can download your latest shots off your camera to free up space in its own memory for new pictures.

"It's the definition of simplicity in operation. Plug a camera's USB cable into the Connector's jack, turn the camera on and the iPod will prompt you to import your pictures. As they transfer, it will flash a thumbnail preview of each on the iPod's screen; when you're done, you can delete those shots off the camera or leave them intact. "

And...
"Now Apple is taking another crack at adding color to an iPod. The price of entry is now $349, and Apple sells only one non-color-screen iPod outside of the iPod mini line. In other words, color now amounts to a feature you get for free if you want more than 20 gigabytes of storage in an iPod."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dy...5-2005Apr9.html

	11-04-2005 17:59									#36
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quote: Originally posted by Ramo This is what I'm talking about (they also have a 1 GB model for about $100 less): http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/t...e&s=electronics

#Hey thanks! thats looks just the ticket. Any idea if it loses all its memory if you replace the battery?!? I hope not

	11-04-2005 18:42									#37
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quote: Originally posted by Agathon Only if you treat your music files like any other file, instead of using a task based interface like itunes.

My question is why don't you implement both?

quote: I thought Windows was supposed to be about task based interfaces -- what a joke.

As far as I understand, Windows doesn't work like the above unless the "player" is simply a USB Mass Storage system (USB-key) like the Nomad MuVo. The Zens require a music app like MediaSource, WMP, Winamp (w/ plugins), etc to transfer music.

quote: I never look at the music files on my system. They are buried in some folder somewhere -- itunes adds them automatically, and trashes them automatically if I command delete them from its library. Hunting through the hard drive to find music files? - no thanks.

So you download all of your music in iTunes? That must be expensive.

	11-04-2005 18:57									#38
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quote: You don't think it's user friendly to have a device icon on your system, then when you drag a music file there it'll add it to the device library?

That's actually pretty cool. I can live with iTunes, but wouldn't mind seeing a feature like this .

	11-04-2005 20:27									#39
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I've got the Creative Zen it's my baby and I wub it to pieces <3

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	11-04-2005 22:10									#40
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You're a rather said individual aren't you?

	11-04-2005 22:47									#41
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui That's actually pretty cool. I can live with iTunes, but wouldn't mind seeing a feature like this .

That's how "Notmad Explorer" works with the Nomad series.

	11-04-2005 23:07									#42
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quote: My question is why don't you implement both?

Because I don't need both. Why am I going to go hunting around my system for "05 - Sweet Caroline".m4a" to drag it on to my mp3 player, and then do the same with the 239 other songs I want to put on my ipod?

Granted, the Finder has type and find, but it is still a pain in the arse to do.

It's simply easier to have a dedicated interface that searches all the metadata and allows me to drag and drop (if I want), but also allows me to use that data to make smart playlists for autofill, or just drag the album or artist name (e.g. "Neil Diamond") to the device in the source list.

quote: So you download all of your music in iTunes? That must be expensive.

No. My other sources automatically download the file, move it to a specified folder and add it to itunes. I never see it. My music files could be called things like "anal_fisting.mp3" and I'd never know or even care.

	11-04-2005 23:31									#43
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quote: Originally posted by Provost Harrison You're a rather said individual aren't you?

haha typo

	11-04-2005 23:32									#44
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quote: Originally posted by Agathon No. My other sources automatically download the file, move it to a specified folder and add it to itunes. I never see it. My music files could be called things like "anal_fisting.mp3" and I'd never know or even care.

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	11-04-2005 23:33									#45
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quote: Originally posted by Agathon Because I don't need both.

Why is this about your needs?

Isn't this about what users want? I love that feature, Imran expressed interest, and I'm sure many others would too.

quote: Why am I going to go hunting around my system for "05 - Sweet Caroline".m4a" to drag it on to my mp3 player, and then do the same with the 239 other songs I want to put on my ipod? Granted, the Finder has type and find, but it is still a pain in the arse to do.

So don't use the method in this case. No one is forcing you. They aren't mutually exclusive.

If I download 2 new songs and want them on my player, it's far easiser for me to choose Send To -> Creative Zen or click-and-drag them to the Zen icon than opening up a music player and transferring them from there.

Or if I download a new album/set of music, I just click and drag the folder to the player...

FWIW, Windows Explorer reads metadata as well.

You're the one calling others "no-nothing idiots" while you're trying to restrict what is desirable behavior to other people. Think about it.

	12-04-2005 00:43									#46
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I encoded my songs in AAC @ 224kbps. I have encoded 581 songs for now, some of these "songs" being hour long dj sets. It amounts to 5,79 GB. I'm wondering if I'm not going overboard here. Maybe I'm loosing diskspace for nothing. I'm not even sure I could hear the difference between a song encoded in AAC @ 224kbps or @ 192kbps, or even @ 128kbps. I'll wait till I get my good headphones.

	12-04-2005 00:45									#47
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I think Boris is using 320Kbps WMA for all of his songs, and he has classical music which is very long.

	12-04-2005 00:54									#48
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Man, I do not look forward to re-ripping all of my songs to take advantage of the larger-capacity players that weren't around when I first ripped them...

	12-04-2005 00:57									#49
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I haven't ripped my classical nor my jazz yet. I briefly compared a techno song ripped @ lossless, @ 320Kbps and @192Kbps with my Sony headphones. And I admit couln't hear the difference. But my Sony's are not great cans. When I'll get my Sennheisers, I'll do some serious testing.

	12-04-2005 01:02									#50
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quote: Man, I do not look forward to re-ripping all of my songs to take advantage of the larger-capacity players that weren't around when I first ripped them...

I know what you mean. I have about 400 albums to rip. But its real fast on my new PC.

	12-04-2005 04:17									#51
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quote: Isn't this about what users want? I love that feature, Imran expressed interest, and I'm sure many others would too.

Some people might want to do something any number of stupid and inefficient ways. Luckily for them they can buy Windows XP Home ediition.

Lossless for an mp3 player is silly. None of the devices for sale are really hi-fi enough to warrant it.

On the other hand, if you are using Airport Express to play your stuff through your rack system, it would be worth it.

	12-04-2005 05:03									#52
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quote: Lossless for an mp3 player is silly. None of the devices for sale are really hi-fi enough to warrant it.

I know, I was just comparing the sound quality. Right now, I'm using AAC @224Kbps.

	12-04-2005 05:06									#53
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quote: Originally posted by Agathon Some people might want to do something any number of stupid and inefficient ways. Luckily for them they can buy Windows XP Home ediition.

Or OS X, as it appears.

It is far more efficient to drag an single MP3 file to the device icon than to open iTunes and transfer it from there. So when downloading individual files, clearly that is preferrably.

	12-04-2005 06:34									#54
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quote: Originally posted by Asher Or OS X, as it appears. It is far more efficient to drag an single MP3 file to the device icon than to open iTunes and transfer it from there. So when downloading individual files, clearly that is preferrably.

Who does that with a 20 gig player? Let auto sync reign.

	12-04-2005 07:34									#55
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quote: Originally posted by Agathon Who does that with a 20 gig player? Let auto sync reign.

Auto sync sucks. I use manual sync. Why should I keep my music on my hard drive?

	12-04-2005 07:50									#56
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quote: Auto sync sucks. I use manual sync. Why should I keep my music on my hard drive?

So you can play it on your computer while you drink coffee? Stream it wirelessly to your 1000 watt stereo down the hall. Share your music between more than one ipod... the list is endless.

	12-04-2005 08:12									#57
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quote: So you can play it on your computer while you drink coffee? Stream it wirelessly to your 1000 watt stereo down the hall. Share your music between more than one ipod

You can't do that by plugging your iPod into your computer? And I don't need to share my music with more than one iPod. I can't fill one.

	12-04-2005 08:21									#58
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quote: I use manual sync.

You mean you handpick all your songs? I plan to rip all my music on my computer. Its about 400 albums and counting. Needless to say, all this won't fit on my Mini. And there's no way in hell I'm handpicking all this. So I'll set up a couple of smart playlists specifically for my Mini. With smart playlists, the possibilities are endless.

	12-04-2005 08:25									#59
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I burn the album to the hard drive and then send it right to the iPod. I don't understand why I can't go from CD to iPod, but c'est la vie.

	12-04-2005 08:27									#60
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I can imagine the tears the day Imran loses his ipod or it breaks down.