20-04-2005 23:39									#61
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quote: Originally posted by reds4ever How about : "I am a bankrupt waiter needing to pay my through university, if you would send me a Western Union bankers draft for $10,000, my father who is the Crown Prince of Zululand will reimburse you the money plus $10,000,000 for your trouble"

	21-04-2005 02:06									#62
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Another good site:
http://www.scamvictimsunited.com/

Hope this helps.

	21-04-2005 17:13									#63
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quote: Originally posted by Lefty Scaevola The key part is that he endorsed the money order.

What exactly does that mean? All I can tell from the OP is the guy cashed $10,000 worth of them. Did doing so require him to "endorse" the money orders?

	21-04-2005 18:58									#64
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quote: Originally posted by Urban Ranger What exactly does that mean? All I can tell from the OP is the guy cashed $10,000 worth of them. Did doing so require him to "endorse" the money orders?

Uuhhh, yes, that is how you 'cash' or otherwise 'negotiate' (assign) any commercial instrument. I take it you have never cashed a check and signed it on the back.

	21-04-2005 20:28									#65
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quote: Originally posted by Urban Ranger What exactly does that mean? All I can tell from the OP is the guy cashed $10,000 worth of them. Did doing so require him to "endorse" the money orders?

i used the word 'vouch' in an earlier post, but 'endorse' is probably better. the bottom line is, he signed it and presented it and the buck has to stop somewhere.

	21-04-2005 21:31									#66
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Whack your friend in the head till he dies. His stupidity is a threat to sane people everywhere.

	21-04-2005 21:31									#67
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www.419eater.com

	22-04-2005 08:34									#69
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quote: Originally posted by ColdWizard This is why you should trust no one.

Before I run for any office, I will change my middle name to 'No One'.

	22-04-2005 08:36									#70
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Before you run for office, you should stop posting here and pay to have all reference to you deleted from these servers.

	22-04-2005 23:52									#71
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This seems like a good thread to point out the spoof page on the University of Nigeria. Check out the courses.

http://www.universityofnigeria.com/index.htm

	23-04-2005 00:03									#72
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quote: Originally posted by Oerdin Your friend is dumb as a rock.

You're a rock-geek. You should know not to insult the rocks, their feelings would be hurt.

	23-04-2005 00:32									#73
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quote: Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat You're a rock-geek. You should know not to insult the rocks, their feelings would be hurt.

MtG... whatever happened in your reverse scam?

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They stopped playing...

I had another one where the story was that something to the effect that some bad guy had the writer's mommy hostage as she was the widow of the rich chief of the whatsituya tribe, and that they needed some form of payment to bribe some lower level lackeys of the bad guys to release mommy so she could sign over the title to the old dead guy's account to her son (the writer).

There was a bank and a safe deposit box and some other things in that story.

I wrote back and told him that it was his lucky day, I was just back with a group of mercenaries who had worked as security contractors in Iraq. I asked him for maps, the location of the nearest airfield with at least 2000 feet of runway, and pictures of the bad guy (so we knew who to kill), the mommy (so we knew who not to kill), and the bank with all approaches, so we could empty out the safe deposit box. I promised I could deliver 45 mercenaries with man portable and light vehicle mount heavy weapons, standard infantry weapons, and air transport in and out of the country within two weeks.

That was a bit of fun, but after an email or two, he went away also.

They've apparently gotten wise to the fact that a lot of people string them along and play back.

	23-04-2005 00:54									#75
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Yes, Oerdin, amusing.

	23-04-2005 00:58									#76
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Mike, what if the guy had been serious.

	23-04-2005 01:05									#77
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That would have been a lot more entertaining.

	23-04-2005 01:33									#78
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MtG

Great story...

	23-04-2005 04:04									#79
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MtG that is a great story!

Anyways, my friend contacted the FBI and they basically told him that this happened on such a scale that they didn't have the manpower to pursue these scammers. This is a very low priority priority for the FBI, and he's screwed. So I guess whoever suggested moving to Nigeria and becoming a scammer had the best idea. :/

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Your friend is so very, very, stupid. Very stupid. Very, very, very, very, very, very stupid.

However, he was the victim of a scam, no matter how very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very stupid he was getting involved with it. So I think he should have some legal grounds on which to not be held liable for the money (or all of it, anyway).

He needs a lawyer, fast. Preferably one who takes personal checks.

	23-04-2005 09:56									#81
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quote: Originally posted by Boris Godunov Your friend is so very, very, stupid. Very stupid. Very, very, very, very, very, very stupid. However, he was the victim of a scam, no matter how very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very stupid he was getting involved with it. So I think he should have some legal grounds on which to not be held liable for the money (or all of it, anyway). He needs a lawyer, fast. Preferably one who takes personal checks.

Negligence (i.e. stupidity) is a defense to any criminal charges that he intended to commit fraud, but it's not a defense to civil liability, in contract or in tort.

	23-04-2005 11:09									#82
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quote: Originally posted by Ming MtG... whatever happened in your reverse scam?

Its actually been done (or at least claimed to have been done). Check www.419eater.com

	24-04-2005 12:23									#83
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quote: Originally posted by Boshko Its actually been done (or at least claimed to have been done). Check www.419eater.com

Great Site
I especially like the story about the scammer who is made to fill a 64 pages long Cerrtificate conderning money laundry, which involves a lot of very personal questions (like "Do you urinate more than 10 times a day?" or "Does a premature ejaculation on your part trouble you?")
and afterwards is convinced to send someone to Scotland because he was made believe that he then receives the money

	24-04-2005 13:29									#84
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DAMN!

I wish I had the time, I'd get involved in that 419 thing, it looks like alot of fun!!!

	24-04-2005 13:45									#85
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Some dude even got own3d with the arnold sound machine!!!

http://www.419eater.com/images/mart...vis_050405a.mp3

	24-04-2005 13:49									#86
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They made this dude sing a Spice Girls song!!!!!!! LOL!!!!!!!

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	24-04-2005 14:07									#88
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LOL THIS IS THE BEST WEBSITE EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!

	24-04-2005 18:33									#89
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Here in China I have a naive American friend who was all set to fly to Africa to get a contract signed (similar scam, they usually jump the foreigner at the airport).

His Chinese boss nixed the deal. Chinese don't often fall for this sort of thing - hard to scam a scammer.

	24-04-2005 18:40									#90
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Your friend needs to beat up the first Nigerian he sees in the streets. And make him work for the 10k for him.

Problem solved, justice served.