21-04-2005 11:30									#31
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Well, it is true, the last paintball match I went to, some of the teams had full themes to their costumes.

Like you had the 82nd Airborne, another team was dressed all in black and wearing ski masks (in the California desert during the summer no less).

So there is some role playing there although people are more interested in shooting each other than developing characters.

It is kinda cool to see people express themselves creatively.

	21-04-2005 11:48									#32
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It looks dumb. By dumb I mena boring.

By boring, I mean it looks like they are having fun, and will force their friends and family to watch it to which they will nod, laugh and fake interest by commenting on the production value of such a "good film"

	21-04-2005 11:53									#33
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quote: Originally posted by Oncle Boris 1d8 per level of the caster for a maximum of 8d8, IIRC.

I much preferred the 1st edition rules that said 1d8 per level period.

	21-04-2005 12:42									#34
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quote: Originally posted by General Ludd Larpers. There was a guy in my old shadowbane guild who was some high-up in the police/legal hierarchy in Toronto who belongs to the Society for Creative Anachronism and spends his spare time making suits of armour out of sheet metal and beating people with batons.

What does he do for fun outside of work?

	21-04-2005 12:44									#35
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quote: Originally posted by Vince278 I much preferred the 1st edition rules that said 1d8 per level period.

I thought they were 6 siders in the first edition rules.

	21-04-2005 12:51									#36
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quote: Originally posted by Sikander I thought they were 6 siders in the first edition rules.

You are correct. It was also maxed at 20d6.

ACK!

	21-04-2005 15:04									#37
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quote: Originally posted by Tuberski You are correct. It was also maxed at 20d6. ACK!

I stand corrected. Didn't 2nd edition max it at 20d6? I seem to remember playing in the 70's with unlimited d6s.

	21-04-2005 16:32									#38
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quote: Originally posted by Ted Striker How do they decide who "wins" and who "loses" ?

During battles they'll usually fight according to rules. What the rules are depends on the group - sometimes it may be something similiar to a pen and paper RPG, or they may be rules derived from martial arts, like fencing. There'll usually be judges standing on the side to make sure everyone is obeying the rules, and to tell people when they're dead if they don't know it already.


But, of course, the most important thing is roleplaying... when everyone is playing their role appropriately, there is probably little need for judges - people will concede when they know that they should.

	21-04-2005 20:00									#39
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You know one thing that makes it so bad is the voice-acting quality. These guys sound like waiters or gas jockeys or something. If you want the listener to even mildly suspend his/her disbelief, you cannot sound like you're taking an order at Denny's.

	21-04-2005 20:03									#40
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This isn't LARPing. It's SCA. I'm ashamed I even know that.

	21-04-2005 20:03									#41
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quote: Originally posted by Seeker You know one thing that makes it so bad is the voice-acting quality. These guys sound like waiters or gas jockeys or something. If you want the listener to even mildly suspend his/her disbelief, you cannot sound like you're taking an order at Denny's.

Do they really care about listeners anyway? I was under the impression that this movie would be confined to the LARP scene.

	21-04-2005 20:04									#42
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara This isn't LARPing. It's SCA.

What does it mean?

	21-04-2005 20:21									#43
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LARP = Live Action Role Playing
SCA = Society for Creative Anachronism

SCA does the stuff in that video, try to rebuild period armor and "weapons" and holds battles and "weapons" demonstrations, etc. The weapons are wooden and padded so no one can get seriously hurt. IIRC, Lefty Scaevola is a SCAer, as is my best friend.

It's kinda like people who do historical reenactments of various battles. I'm sure you have Napoleonic War reactments around Europe. We have Revolutionary War and Civil War reenactors in the US.

	21-04-2005 20:53									#44
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I was wondering if it was medieval-fantasy or medieval-realism they were reenacting. I still can't say for sure whether their movie has a historical or ahistorcal basis.

But since the whole thing doesn't seem to be aimed at an audience, and there's no suspension of disbelief at all (the padding of the weapon and the bits of modern clothing are for all to see), I would rather think of LARP.

	21-04-2005 21:06									#45
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quote: Originally posted by Spiffor I was wondering if it was medieval-fantasy or medieval-realism they were reenacting. I still can't say for sure whether their movie has a historical or ahistorcal basis.

It's a little of column and a little of column b. It's not historical re-enactment, but everything must be reality based. So no, "Lightningbolt! Lightningbolt! Lightningbolt!" If the battle is supposed to take place in 958, no full suits of armor, etc.

LARPing is based on games. SCA has rules, but it isn't a game.

A lot of battle re-enactment isn't aimed at audiences either, but for the fun of the actors. I doubt many people go to see the re-enactment of the Battle of Oulee in northern Florida (only important battle fought in this state during the Civil War).

	21-04-2005 21:11									#46
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara This isn't LARPing. It's SCA. I'm ashamed I even know that.

LARPing and the SCA are not mutually exclusive, nor is this style of fighting exclusive to the SCA (which I thought tended towards more "realistic" armour and equipment instead of giant cushions and stuff). People in the video where roleplaying, so it is LARPing.

	21-04-2005 21:16									#47
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quote: Originally posted by Seeker You know one thing that makes it so bad is the voice-acting quality. These guys sound like waiters or gas jockeys or something. If you want the listener to even mildly suspend his/her disbelief, you cannot sound like you're taking an order at Denny's.

Generally speaking, you don't want your adaudiance to have to suspend their disbelief for a documentary.

	21-04-2005 21:18									#48
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One of my flatmates in my firstyear undergrad was a Theoretical Physics student by day, a 6ft long 2 handed swordwielding woodelf by night Think the weapon was blunted but it was steel all the same and he did use to come back with a variety of bruises from the weekends away where someone had smacked him with a flail or something.

	21-04-2005 21:19									#49
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"6ft long"

	21-04-2005 21:26									#50
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I was quite surprised when one of the Apolyon UK Crew (where did I get that name from?) told me he'd done LARP or whatever it's called. He seems cool, it totally messes with my whole values system!