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Starchild is offline Starchild
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Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

You know, after a while, you get used to being hated and discriminated against by large segments of society and authority.

At least I'm in the UK where I'm a second and a half class citizen and not in America where I'd be just a second class citizen.

One day, I hope to be seen as fully human. *wipes single tear from eye*

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Starchild. We all love you, except for the overbearing conservatives, and the other people who quite simply dont.

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I dislike SC 'cos of his phylum allegiance.

Starchild is offline Starchild
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It's good to know people care.
(for various reasons I won't go into, at this point in my life its especially good to know)

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I don't hate you . Homophobes should be treated as a third class citizen.

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http://www.bustedtees.com/product.php?name=morecowbell


You, sir, are a god among men.

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Jules, if you haven't noticed... I don't think there has been a serious post on this thread since the OP.


My first post was absolutely serious.

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We should nuke SW Minnesota, might improve the place (as well as get rid of those pesky conservative Germans).

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Homosexuality isn't illegal in Virginia, big guy.


I was going to post that too, but my router went kaput.

MichaeltheGreat is offline MichaeltheGreat
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Now while in some cases, such as Virginia, you'd be making a clear improvement by nuking it, but otherwise you'd be killing a lot of people.


Virginia is heaven on earth, except for the infestations of carpetbaggers.

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So nobody thinks there could be a constitutional problem with this new law?
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No. Its not your legal right to be a foster parent.



err -- In Canada such a law would fall afoul of the Charter. Nobody has a right to be a foster parent but people have rights to not be discriminated against.

What if the application asked your "race"? Would it be ok to exclude a racial group on that grounds alone??

MichaeltheGreat is offline MichaeltheGreat
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Discrimination based on race violates Federal law and the Constitution. (based on application of the 14th Amendment, this applies to the states as well

Sexual orientation is not a basis in Federal law for creating a protected class, although it is protected to some degree or another in some states.

With the exception of the Schiavo fiasco, the Feds normally don't stick themselves into family law related matters, as there is no authority under the Constitution to do so. The only way the Feds would take any position with respect to the Texas law is if it discriminatorily targeted foster parents based on being members of a recognized protected class - i.e. race, religion, national or ethnic origin, etc.

The basic remedy under the state's rights framework is if you don't like it, move to another state.

 
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