22-04-2005 09:31									#31
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That's a lot of numbers.

	22-04-2005 09:33									#32
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Summary: CD = ~100MB per 10 minutes
DVD-Audio 2 channel = ~660MB per 10 minutes
DVD-Audio 5.1 channel = ~1000MB per 10 minutes

That's why you gotta love WMA-Professional with 5.1-channel sound.

	22-04-2005 09:34									#33
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because it has numbers?

	22-04-2005 09:36									#34
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Much smaller numbers.

	22-04-2005 09:49									#35
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quote: Summary: CD = ~100MB per 10 minutes DVD-Audio 2 channel = ~660MB per 10 minutes DVD-Audio 5.1 channel = ~1000MB per 10 minutes

Ouch... 5.1 channels are useless for music, though.

	22-04-2005 10:03									#36
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I disagree, some 5.1 channel mixes are pretty sweet. They add another dimension.

	22-04-2005 10:08									#37
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But they're rare.

	22-04-2005 10:30									#38
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quote: Originally posted by Urban Ranger Find an el cheapo case.

I may do that

	22-04-2005 11:38									#39
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quote: Originally posted by nostromo What did you get? I'll probably get Sennheiser PX-100s. I'll wait till I get to hear them. If I'm not happy with what I hear, I'll probably get Grados GR-60s. But the Grados are a bit expensive here and Canada and they're ugly.

Etymotic ER6 Noise Isolating earbuds. These will be my "active" headphones. They're normally $149, but I got them on sale for $89.

For home, I'm thinking about a set of Bose headphones. They're also $149, but i've tested them in the store and they sound really, really sweet.

	22-04-2005 11:49									#40
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quote: Etymotic ER6 Noise Isolating earbuds. These will be my "active" headphones. They're normally $149, but I got them on sale for $89.

Nice. HeadRoom gave them a good review:

http://www.headphone.com/layout.php...ctID=0020100100

	22-04-2005 12:00									#41
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Check these out:

http://www.headphone.com/layout.php...ctID=0020380001

$900, molded to fit your own ears.

	22-04-2005 12:03									#42
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quote: Originally posted by nostromo Nice. HeadRoom gave them a good review: http://www.headphone.com/layout.php...ctID=0020100100

They and the Bose ones I want are both among the top headphone reviews on CNET, too.

	22-04-2005 12:17									#43
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But why two headphones? You could also use the ER6 at home. The Bose probably doesn't sound better anyway. Unless you want something more comfortable than in-ear headphones .

	22-04-2005 12:26									#44
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quote: Originally posted by nostromo But why two headphones? You could also use the ER6 at home. The Bose probably doesn't sound better anyway. Unless you want something more comfortable than in-ear headphones .

Bingo. I don't find in-ear phones very comfortable, but they're best for being active. The Bose I will use to sit at home and listen to music, either from the stereo or on the PC.

	22-04-2005 12:26									#45
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quote: Originally posted by nostromo There's a difference between a song ripped in AAC @16 kbps and the same song ripped in AAC @224 kbps. Granted, it's all digital, but one of them sounds like crap. I'll let you guess which one

Um, you are not talking about ripping, you are talking about encoding. Ripping is making a copy of a sound track off a CD as a .wav file. Encoding is converting a .wav file into another format ( .mp3, etc.).

	22-04-2005 13:03									#46
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quote: Um, you are not talking about ripping, you are talking about encoding. Ripping is making a copy of a sound track off a CD as a .wav file. Encoding is converting a .wav file into another format ( .mp3, etc.).

So you're telling me that when I "rip" (in a loose sense) a song from a CD with iTunes or WMP, they copy the song as a .wav file (ripping in the strict sense of the term) and then they encode it? So I guess I was using the term loosely.

You said:

quote: It doesn't matter. It's all digital.

A lot of people say this. And It's either plainly false, or I don't understand what they're saying. For example, a friend of mine plays his CD's on his DVD player. But he also has a good CD player. I pointed out to him that he should play his CD's on his CD player, that it would probably sound better that way. He answered that it doesn't matter, its all digital. I believe he's wrong. So care to tell me what you meant?

	22-04-2005 13:12									#47
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quote: Originally posted by nostromo So you're telling me that when I "rip" (in a loose sense) a song from a CD with iTunes or WMP, they copy the song as a .wav file (ripping in the strict sense of the term) and then they encode it? So I guess I was using the term loosely.

Yeah, many programs can do both together, so many people are using the term "rip" loosely

quote: Originally posted by nostromo A lot of people say this. And It's either plainly false, or I don't understand what they're saying. For example, a friend of mine plays his CD's on his DVD player. But he also has a good CD player. I pointed out to him that he should play his CD's on his CD player, that it would probably sound better that way. He answered that it doesn't matter, its all digital. I believe he's wrong. So care to tell me what you meant?

What I meant is a bit (represented by a pit, or the lack of, on a CD) is either 1 or 0. There's nothing like a 97% of a bit. When you rip a sound track of a CD, the program read the bits off the CD and writes to a file. Since the data is in bits, the copying is 100% accurate.

Dropping bits here or there may not be important to a song, but it can completely mess up other binary data such as encrypted files. If a bit drops off in the middle of an encrypted file, it could become completely garbled.

	22-04-2005 14:38									#48
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quote: Originally posted by Asher Out of lumber.

That famed Canadian softwood?

	22-04-2005 14:46									#49
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quote: Originally posted by nostromo A lot of people say this. And It's either plainly false, or I don't understand what they're saying. For example, a friend of mine plays his CD's on his DVD player. But he also has a good CD player. I pointed out to him that he should play his CD's on his CD player, that it would probably sound better that way. He answered that it doesn't matter, its all digital. I believe he's wrong. So care to tell me what you meant?

There should be no appreciable difference between the two when it comes to playing WAV files.

	22-04-2005 14:59									#50
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quote: Originally posted by Sikander There should be no appreciable difference between the two when it comes to playing WAV files.

That what I figured, but I'm not an expert in audio equipment.

	22-04-2005 17:33									#51
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I would like to build the machine myself but I don't have the time nor the technical expertise... besides I guess that's best for medium-low end systems... a box like the one I linked to has 2x Geforce 6600 GT's... which would set you back ~£120 each... plus a decent sized monitor, 5.1 sound system etc etc... and the whole thing is £1300 probably because the company can get those parts wholesale whereas I can't.

I'm debating with myself as to whether I should get that system, or a cheaper laptop, with a lower spec, lower price, but the advantage of being mobile. Thoughts? Needless to say, if I went for a laptop it'd be an IBM just to shut Asher up.

	22-04-2005 21:35									#52
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Building a box isn't difficult. Nowadays you almost can't go wrong, they all got notches, etc. so they can only go in one way. The only "hard" part is the CPU + cooler.

All you need to do is to take your time and follow the instructions. If you haven't done this before read the manuals first.

	22-04-2005 23:01									#53
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quote: Originally posted by Whaleboy Needless to say, if I went for a laptop it'd be an IBM just to shut Asher up.

I'd think actually getting a bigger penis would be more effective in accomplishing that task.

	22-04-2005 23:11									#54
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Depending on what side you would....

	22-04-2005 23:20									#55
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Bigger computer? How about this one?



ACK!

	23-04-2005 03:00									#56
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quote: Building a box isn't difficult. Nowadays you almost can't go wrong, they all got notches, etc. so they can only go in one way. The only "hard" part is the CPU + cooler.

But the aforementioned cost?

quote: Bigger computer? How about this one?

Why not send it to Ming?

quote: I'd think actually getting a bigger penis would be more effective in accomplishing that task.

Surely it would have the opposite effect?

	23-04-2005 04:52									#57
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So I got the Bose headphones today. I'm going to break them in over the weekend. They sound pretty damn nice and are incredibly comfortable.

	23-04-2005 04:53									#58
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quote: Originally posted by Whaleboy Surely it would have the opposite effect?

I was assuming his mouth would be otherwise occupied.

	23-04-2005 06:01									#59
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UR, you're plain wrong, it's a widely known fact that a ripped CD will lose some quality over the IDE channel.

	23-04-2005 06:35									#60
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quote: Originally posted by Oncle Boris UR, you're plain wrong, it's a widely known fact that a ripped CD will lose some quality over the IDE channel.

Talking through your hat, again.