06-05-2005 07:47									#61
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I think there might be a few left in the odd corner of Wisconsin...

Feminist women tend to cut their hair really short...or shave it off...and dress like baggy asexual man-things...

"No one wants to be a feminist anymore."

The "hos" are better scenery anyway. The above is good news to me.

	06-05-2005 07:51									#62
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quote: Originally posted by Lancer I think there might be a few left in the odd corner of Wisconsin... Feminist women tend to cut their hair really short...or shave it off...and dress like baggy asexual man-things... "No one wants to be a feminist anymore." The "hos" are better scenery anyway. The above is good news to me.

not the tattoos. I hate tattoos on women. Sure they have the right to have them, and I have the right not to like them.

	06-05-2005 07:54									#63
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Tattoos are horrible, particularly on women.

	06-05-2005 07:58									#64
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I like the city where I live, but one thing I hate is all the smokers. And it seems like nearly every woman smokes in my city. I'm not real big on smokers.

	06-05-2005 08:01									#65
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It's a destination for addictive people. I notice at the indian casino the people at the bandits are mostly smoking. I'm glad that I'll be working outside...I worry about Dolores inside though. She's in the food area where there's alot less smoke, but still...

	06-05-2005 08:02									#66
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quote: Originally posted by Lancer Maybe because that's who they want to be?

Thus reinforcing the belief by women that men think with their penis.

Advertising has gone from one extreme to the other. Where once women were assumed to be vacuous housewives, now they are regarded as sex starved whores. Cosmetic advertisements while not using this stereotype are just as offensive as they still assume women are stupid.

Then there are those stick-insects masquerading as women while modelling clothes.

	06-05-2005 08:09									#67
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Women can think for themselves, yet we see so many acting and looking like "hos", as Diss said. I gotta believe that's what they want.

	06-05-2005 08:20									#68
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quote: Originally posted by Lancer Women can think for themselves, yet we see so many acting and looking like "hos", as Diss said. I gotta believe that's what they want.

No, it's because that's what men expect from a woman.

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quote: Originally posted by Lancer Maybe because that's who they want to be? Meet alot of nice girls recently Diss?

Nice girls want to be "hoes?"

	06-05-2005 08:25									#70
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So you're saying women can't think for themselves? They have to do what us guys expect?

	06-05-2005 08:26									#71
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No UR!

	06-05-2005 08:27									#72
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I was saying there aren't alot of nice girls.

	06-05-2005 08:29									#73
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quote: Originally posted by Lancer I was saying there aren't alot of nice girls.

Perhaps because we are constantly assaulted with images where sluts are more attractive.

Here's a challenge, next time you're walking down the street, instead of looking at the woman in sexy clothing, try looking at the woman who is conservatively dressed.

	06-05-2005 08:38									#75
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quote: Originally posted by Lancer So you're saying women can't think for themselves? They have to do what us guys expect?

Yes, because men are still in charge.

	06-05-2005 08:45									#76
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Try telling my wife that UR.

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quote: Originally posted by Qilue Perhaps because we are constantly assaulted with images where sluts are more attractive. Here's a challenge, next time you're walking down the street, instead of looking at the woman in sexy clothing, try looking at the woman who is conservatively dressed.

i look at all women. yeah I know, it's not very feminist to get visual pleasure from seeing women. But I can't deny what I am. Sure I may think nasty thoughts about women, but I always treat them with respect.

	06-05-2005 09:00									#78
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Diss

If I didn't look at women that are conservatively dressed, I'd have never been with my wife.

	06-05-2005 09:01									#79
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sure the slutty clothes turn your head faster, but I do find myself looking at women I actually think I have a shot with more. And they tend to be dressed more conservatively.

	06-05-2005 09:38									#80
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quote: Originally posted by Lancer Diss If I didn't look at women that are conservatively dressed, I'd have never been with my wife.

I didn't know you found her in the US

	06-05-2005 09:40									#81
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I didn't. Why?

	06-05-2005 09:58									#82
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quote: Originally posted by Urban Ranger Maybe you should try to bleed profusely for several days each month for several decades.

For an estimated 6 to 12 years added to my life? Sure.



The way the media often tries to portray women as objects, pisses me off. Nothing is sexier then a big brain.

Skinny women turn me off, go eat a sandiwch calista flockheart.

	06-05-2005 10:01									#83
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quote: Originally posted by Lancer I didn't. Why?

AFAIK, women don't dress any way but conservatively in the Philippines.

	06-05-2005 10:03									#84
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quote: Originally posted by Vesayen For an estimated 6 to 12 years added to my life? Sure.

Why do you think a longer life is better?

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"AFAIK, women don't dress any way but conservatively in the Philippines."

I concede the point.

	06-05-2005 10:30									#86
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historical moment recorded for posterity:


Lancer conceded a point

	06-05-2005 14:43									#87
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quote: Originally posted by Qilue No, it's because that's what men expect from a woman.

So they pay the price for modeling their own behaviour on what they think an abstract monolith (which in fact does not exist as such ) expects of them .

	06-05-2005 16:17									#88
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quote: Originally posted by Boris Godunov So why is it women, on average, still get a lot less pay for the same work as their male counterparts?

It isn't true. Same job, same time in grade, same pay in a vast majority of cases. The reason that women make less money on average than men is because they often don't do the same work (blue collar men die many times more often on the job for instance, and are compensated for their increased chance at accidental injury or death to some extent compared to blue collar women) or they don't do it as much (maternity leave, working part time to care for children etc.).

This sometimes leads to family women being "tracked" and missing out on promotions which IMO is discrimination when done pre-emptively and sometimes reasonable in instances where the part time work or leave is concurrent with the decision on the promotion. I've been working (officially) for 27 years now, and more than half of my supervisors have been women.

	06-05-2005 19:31									#89
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It's perfectly reasonable.

I will not work on Shabbat for religious reasons.

It would be unfair if I expected employers to hire me, regardless of the fact. Even though I don't see it as a choice, ultimatley it is. My choice gets in the way of the job.

If you want a career where the requirments are consistant work and non kid friendly hours, don't have kids.

	07-05-2005 00:27									#90
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quote: Originally posted by Sikander It isn't true. Same job, same time in grade, same pay in a vast majority of cases. The reason that women make less money on average than men is because they often don't do the same work (blue collar men die many times more often on the job for instance, and are compensated for their increased chance at accidental injury or death to some extent compared to blue collar women) or they don't do it as much (maternity leave, working part time to care for children etc.). This sometimes leads to family women being "tracked" and missing out on promotions which IMO is discrimination when done pre-emptively and sometimes reasonable in instances where the part time work or leave is concurrent with the decision on the promotion. I've been working (officially) for 27 years now, and more than half of my supervisors have been women.

women do get less pay in white collar jobs where you negotiate you pay in the interview process. theories are they just aren't willing to be forceful and demand better pay. You really have to be aggressive in getting the pay you deserve.

This is a product of the whole interview process, and it's sad that women get paid much less than men.