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ixnay is offline ixnay
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Jan 1970
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Full PM-box? Change here!

It's looking like this still may have some bugs to work out - another forum is reporting that while using this they're getting other people's cached PM boxes and stuff.

D:

Ted Striker is offline Ted Striker
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Hmmmm...this sounds like the world's biggest proxy server then.

That sounds kinda scary!

VetLegion is offline VetLegion
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Sep 1999
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This sounds like a very useless product


"Sending your page requests through Google machines dedicated to handling Google Web Accelerator traffic."

Useless. Google is fast enough as it is.

quote:
Storing copies of frequently looked at pages to make them quickly accessible.


Ordinary proxies do this.

quote:
Downloading only the updates if a web page has changed slightly since you last viewed it.




quote:
Prefetching certain pages onto your computer in advance.


I pay for traffic! Terrible idea.

quote:
Managing your Internet connection to reduce delays.


What?

quote:
Compressing data before sending it to your computer.


There already is hardware compression built into the modem(s).



So all in all, not a big improvement, lots of security issues and so on.

Atahualpa is offline Atahualpa
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Hawthrone
Mar 1999
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Wow a proxy server..... this must be what the world has been waiting for!

quote:
There already is hardware compression built into the modem(s).


I guess this should just mean that they support gzip compression.

Qilue is offline Qilue
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Dec 1999
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It sounds like a new twist on spyware where Google have managed to get people to willingly install it.

Google spyware.

Tattila the Hun is offline Tattila the Hun
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Tornio
Oct 2002
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Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

Somehow I doubt Google would release anything useless. They seem too professional..

5.8 seconds saved! Woot!

General Ludd is offline General Ludd
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Aug 2001
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Originally posted by Tattila the Hun
Somehow I doubt Google would release anything useless. They seem too professional..

5.8 seconds saved! Woot!


Oh, it's certainly not useless... but it's use may not be what you think it is.

Solver is offline Solver
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Latvia, Riga
Sep 2000
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It says designed for broadband, weird. Can it really make pages load faster if I have a connection starting from 1.5 Mbit to 2 Mbit down? I'm weary.

Asher is offline Asher
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Nov 1999
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The vast majority of web servers cannot and do not allocate 1.5 to 2 Mbit of bandwidth to each user.

If the website has an upload speed of 10KB/s to each user (if it's overloaded, for instance), you'll still get 10KB/s from it with 1.5 to 2Mbit.

With the accelerator, you'd get 1.5 to 2Mbit.

St Leo is offline St Leo
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Jul 2005
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So, in other words, Google is trying to neutralize the Slashdot effect.

General Ludd is offline General Ludd
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Increase the size of your Attachments

Or, in other other words, google caches everything you view and do, and lets anyone else who uses the program access it.

Solver is offline Solver
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I bit the bullet and am installing. At least it downloaded instantly .

Asher is offline Asher
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Or, in other other words, google caches everything you view and do, and lets anyone else who uses the program access it.

Those claims haven't been substantiated, and I'd be very, very surprised if they were true or even theoretically possible.

It doesn't cache secure HTTP (https) or any sites you add to the exclude list.

ixnay is offline ixnay
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It does, however, cache pages on forums and stuff.

So if a bunch of Apolyton people installed it and then started browsing, there's the chance that you'd get a cached version of someone else's PM box - you wouldn't be able to do anything with it, but you'd still be able to see it.

Asher is offline Asher
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I was under the impression that it only cached static pages?

Alex is offline Alex
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Mar 1999
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Suffering from ads?

One word: Opera.

Asher is offline Asher
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Increase Your PM Length

What does that have to do with any of this, aside from the fact that you need to manually set up Opera because it's not significant enough ala IE and Firefox?

VJ is offline VJ
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Dec 2001
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I think the real help of this accelerator is that sites which are suddenly requested very many times and thus become virtually jammed can be still accessed since Google has a storage of that webpage contents.

Bosh is offline Bosh
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Jan 1970
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So this doesn't help people in asia?
*cries*

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This is weird... I downloaded it, but it doesn't record any time saved, nor does it even allow me to access Apolyton.

Alex is offline Alex
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What does that have to do with any of this, aside from the fact that you need to manually set up Opera because it's not significant enough ala IE and Firefox?


Opera is significantly faster than IE and at least as much fast as Firefox. And this doesn't require any manual setup, it's out of the box.

Plus, when you press the back button in Opera it *instantly* displays the page you visited before. Who needs this Google garbage?

Besides, take a look at this.

Asher is offline Asher
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Suffering from ads?

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Opera is significantly faster than IE and at least as much fast as Firefox. And this doesn't require any manual setup, it's out of the box.

Plus, when you press the back button in Opera it *instantly* displays the page you visited before. Who needs this Google garbage?

That has absolutely nothing to do with the web browser. slow sites are slow in any browser.

BTW, the instant-back button thing was actually checked in for Firefox 1.1 (and is in the nightly builds I use), as of 2 days ago.

pchang is offline pchang
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Suffering from ads?

For some web applications, the instant back feature can break the intended application behavior.

Asher is offline Asher
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Tired of ads?

Not if the browser obeys the no-cache directive, and the web developers use it properly.

VetLegion is offline VetLegion
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Sep 1999
time: 06:19
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Inflate your Upload Space

no-cache directive is evil. It used to hurt my surfing back when I was on dial-up.

no-cache
expired

other such commands

Ted Striker is offline Ted Striker
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Put an end to popups!

Ted Striker

pchang is offline pchang
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Got spare money?

Lots of ifs. Web acceleration must be tuned properly for each application (even different installations of the same application). Google is just finding this out now. However, it is still beta........

alva is offline alva
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quote:
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I bit the bullet and am installing. At least it downloaded instantly .


Maybe you want to read this first:
Google's Accelerator Breaks Web Apps, Security

 
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