19-05-2005 08:56									#361
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quote: Originally posted by Jaguar You had a choice between LML and MLL at least, but I knew which one you'd do. And I'll be in at least third now. One further than you've ever been.

Perhaps because I told you, thinking that you would try to win? And come on Jaguar, this is only my second game, don't make it seem like we were equal.

	19-05-2005 08:58									#362
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It's your second game, and my first.

	19-05-2005 08:59									#363
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But you had Yonchae, advising your every move.

	19-05-2005 09:01									#364
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Chapter 25.3
Convergence

quote: Here is something to think about In an egalitrain society, everyone starts equal.

The final crushing of Lord Vetko left just three powers. Or was it really three powers, or one superpower and two client states? The window for revolt was fast closing...

	19-05-2005 09:01									#365
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quote: Originally posted by Lord Nuclear Perhaps because I told you, thinking that you would try to win? And come on Jaguar, this is only my second game, don't make it seem like we were equal.

Oh, but Jaguar is trying to win, at least by his meaning of the word. He certainly beat you ... you just refuse to realize that some of us consider finishing 3rd vs 4th to be a superior choice. Not your choice, and I am happy to give you that; but certainly my choice, and I'm guessing it's Jag's too.

	19-05-2005 09:02									#366
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quote: Originally posted by Lord Nuclear But you had Yonchae, advising your every move.

Not really. Although I can't take credit for the plan to take you out. That was neither me nor joncha...

	19-05-2005 09:03									#367
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quote: Originally posted by Lord Nuclear But you had Yonchae, advising your every move.

Did you pay any attention to the NO game we played over at Eventis? Admittedly Joncha didn't have as much to say about OOBs as myself, but that was his choice most of the time and not mine, as I kept saying "choose an OOB or I'll lose to Jaguar again by using XXX-XXX..." and then we went with what I'd said

	19-05-2005 09:03									#368
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quote: Originally posted by snoopy369 Oh, but Jaguar is trying to win, at least by his meaning of the word. He certainly beat you ... you just refuse to realize that some of us consider finishing 3rd vs 4th to be a superior choice. Not your choice, and I am happy to give you that; but certainly my choice, and I'm guessing it's Jag's too.

It's first, or it's last. If your second, you didn't win the game. You lost it.

	19-05-2005 09:04									#369
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quote: Originally posted by snoopy369 Did you pay any attention to the NO game we played over at Eventis? Admittedly Joncha didn't have as much to say about OOBs as myself, but that was his choice most of the time and not mine, as I kept saying "choose an OOB or I'll lose to Jaguar again by using XXX-XXX..." and then we went with what I'd said

Not really.

	19-05-2005 09:04									#370
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quote: Originally posted by Lord Nuclear It's first, or it's last. If your second, you didn't win the game. You lost it.

See, if you read my post you'd see that I don't agree with you on that, that I have a 'relativist' view of placing [ie placing 2nd is better than 3rd, etc.] ... I quite understand how you feel, but please don't project your opinions and feelings onto me (or others).

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quote: Originally posted by snoopy369 See, if you read my post you'd see that I don't agree with you on that, that I have a 'relativist' view of placing [ie placing 2nd is better than 3rd, etc.] ... I quite understand how you feel, but please don't project your opinions and feelings onto me (or others).

Oh, Snoopy. You really amuse me.

	19-05-2005 09:07									#372
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I don't think I would have changed anything I did, expect one thing, and that was betraying Sparrow. I apologize for that.

	19-05-2005 09:09									#373
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quote: Originally posted by Lord Nuclear Oh, Snoopy. You really amuse me.

I consider myself good with children.

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quote: Originally posted by Lord Nuclear It's first, or it's last. If your second, you didn't win the game. You lost it.

2nd place to your closest ally is the best outcome other than winning.

	19-05-2005 09:10									#375
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quote: Originally posted by snoopy369 I consider myself good with children.

	19-05-2005 09:12									#376
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QFT

quote: He who comes in second loses last.

http://www.apolyton.net/forums/show...652#post3799652

	19-05-2005 09:59									#378
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Your ally is making it much farther than you could have possibly imagined...

	19-05-2005 09:59									#379
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Orders sent.

	19-05-2005 13:01									#380
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There is no second or third place in GO No bronze or silver medals to be placed on your grave No one to remember the shattered hulks of your ships adrift in space, alone, empty, forever

By teaming up on Vetko, Ordin and Banobi have lost a useful ally against Chuss, and have doomed themselves to death

Actually...

YAY VETKO IS DEAD

-Jam

	19-05-2005 14:53									#381
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VETKO IS DEAD

	19-05-2005 15:40									#382
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Smiley, clear your PMs.

	19-05-2005 17:31									#383
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Idiots playing for second to the point that they have absolutely no hope of winning .

Revised odds:
Kit Chuss 2:3
Ken Banobi 80:1
General Ordin 150:1
Other 300:1

	19-05-2005 17:59									#384
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Well, I think Kassi forsooke all hopes of winning long ago anyway. It's a miracle he made it this far.

As to Jag: he has been considerably pruned in the early game, and he owes his eraly survival on JEBUS and Joncha. I can understand that he cooperated with Jon to the end.

	19-05-2005 18:47									#385
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I think Kassi was just playing on to get revenge on LN anyway

	19-05-2005 19:18									#386
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Box cleared.

	19-05-2005 20:01									#387
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quote: Originally posted by Jamski I think Kassi was just playing on to get revenge on LN anyway

It's not liked I did anything to him. He's the one that attacked me first.

	19-05-2005 20:02									#388
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And same with you Jamski.

	19-05-2005 21:12									#389
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You refused to recognise imperial rule, silly.

	19-05-2005 21:45									#390
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Galactic Empire > Socialist Empire > Vetkovite "Empire"

Lesser of two evils, simple math. And like Spiffor said, I've been living on borrowed time for many rounds now and my personal ambitions have been fulfilled

Sent.