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There is good and bad cholesterol.

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yes, I know

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some fats are bad -- there is this thingy called cholesterol


Actually, studies done of Atkins dieters have shown they have lowered cholesterol levels after being on the diet.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/health...18-adkins_x.htm

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Zombies, exactly Canadian cows.


Dead cow walking?

http://www.tv.cbc.ca/national/pgmin.../pov960416.html

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Mad Cow Disease
April 16, 1996

REX MURPHY: As with so many other of life's more interesting experiences, I cannot claim a firsthand acquaintance with mad cow disease. I've known a frisky poodle or two, and the odd demented cat, but widespread insanity of the barnyard variety has, alas, largely passed me by. Trust the British to underline the gravity of a toxic outbreak by giving it a name -- mad cow -- that could have been lifted straight from the menu of Fawlty Towers. But then, the British have always shown a commendable indifference to the line dividing sketch comedy from real life. Consider the royals and the career of John Major -- but I digress. Now, I may be a layman in dairy science, but am I alone in thinking that the proposed solution to the mad cow phenomenon is a tad extreme? Wiping out millions and millions of cows because a couple of their number are a few fibres short of a cud, the British are the most ecologically pious citizens on the planet. But could this be a sensitivity that only operates on remote? They bleed for seals that are not their own, but if there's a threat to the domestic hamburger supply, it's opening night for dead cows walking.

This is Britain, let us all remember: the native land of the animal-lover. This is Britain, where they have road crossings for toads, practically mate with hedgehogs -- Britain, where the domestic cats and dogs enjoy the status that is only slightly less than idolatry. The spectacle of some members of the horseback aristocracy chasing a single fox can put the entire countryside in an uproar, yet who's putting in a good word for the cow? Aren't cows people-- I'm sorry. Aren't cows animals too? If this were a couple of pandas that had gone slightly loopy, they'd be flying psychiatrists in from all over the world. Or if a few owls - - and I mean this in the kindest possible way -- had gone slightly bats; or if a few bats -- and I mean this in the kindest possible way too -- had gone slightly barmy, I don't think it'd be open season on all the night flyers. I think we must acknowledge the hypocrisy here and confront the question: Is the movement for animal rights only for the ecological superstars?

Now let us consider the cow. It is one of the most innocuous creatures on the face of God's green acreage. It munches a little grass, chews its cud, has a small problem with flatulence and, basically, spends most of its time staring innocently at nothing in particular. Kind of like the ideal guest on Regis and Kathie Lee. Next to the chicken, the cow is the least demanding of our co- confederates on the planet.

So, in the kingdom that was built on roast beef and Yorkshire pudding, is this how they reward innocence and loyalty? A few cows are stricken, and possibly the whole herd -- millions -- are on the long path to Cold Comfort Farm. What would the great eulogist and poet, Thomas Grey, think? "The lowing herd winds slowly o'er the lea / and leaves the world to darkness, and to me." I'm Rex Murphy.

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AFAIK, they don't know why.

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Starvation for $100, Alex.

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Actually, studies done of Atkins dieters have shown they have lowered cholesterol levels after being on the diet.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/health...18-adkins_x.htm



hmmm . . . . . . interesting

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Starvation for $100, Alex.


You don't starve on Atkins. Far from it. You're full most of the time, heck, you're satiated. It was a great diet, but it costs money. When I have a job, I'm going back on it.

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I've seen it ripped to shreds by people who know a heck of a lot more about human metabolism than I.

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Atkins guide: 25$
All meat supermarket trip: 50$
Going into ketoacidosis on purpose: priceless

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Thanks, but I'd rather not have excess levels of chemical relatives to nail-polish remover floating around in my bloodstream.

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They said the border reopening would increase the risk of importing contaminated beef products from cattle infected with bovine spongiform encephalopathy – mad cow disease – into the U.S. They argue that would shatter consumer confidence in the American cattle industry.


Not that this hasn't happened already, with BSE cases found in the US itself.

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some fats are bad -- there is this thingy called cholesterol


Saturated fat is bad news.

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Unions, che. It is unlikely that illegals would find jobs in the meat packing industry.


Meat packing hasn't been a majority union industry in years. It's now a low wage industry using immigrant labor or at least according to a Time magazine article a few years back.

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Not that this hasn't happened already, with BSE cases found in the US itself.


It was a Canadian cow brought to the US for slaughter. It was caught be monitors.

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how much weight have you put back on since you went back on it, Che?

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Re-opening the Japanese market to American beef is a hell of a lot more important for the US beef industry than seeing Canadian beef go through some American slaughterhouses, so I wouldn't hold my breath on seeing these restrictions lifted if I was a Canuck...

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Re-opening the Japanese market to American beef is a hell of a lot more important for the US beef industry than seeing Canadian beef go through some American slaughterhouses, so I wouldn't hold my breath on seeing these restrictions lifted if I was a Canuck...


The Japanese are full of ****. They've already had a dozen BSE cases of their own, so they can go **** themselves about being *****es closing down their borders.

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I'm just glad I am a vegeterrian.

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The chances of getting BSE from eating meat even in the UK were never more than remote

They're microscopic outside Europe.

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The Japanese are full of ****. They've already had a dozen BSE cases of their own, so they can go **** themselves about being *****es closing down their borders.


I agree completely. The fact that the Japanese are being hyprocritical *****es on this issue doesn't change the position the US is in, though...

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Meat packing hasn't been a majority union industry in years. It's now a low wage industry using immigrant labor or at least according to a Time magazine article a few years back.


I think he meant Canadian unions.

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how much weight have you put back on since you went back on it, Che?

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I've gained about five pounds since I went off the diet. I lost thirty, so I'm net twenty-five down.

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It was a Canadian cow brought to the US for slaughter. It was caught be monitors.


I am sure that there were cases found on US farms.

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You don't starve on Atkins. Far from it. You're full most of the time, heck, you're satiated. It was a great diet, but it costs money. When I have a job, I'm going back on it.


I'd recommend doing the South Beach diet instead. It's far better for you and for maintaining weight loss, as it presents a realistic diet one can stick with. I had two coworkers in NY who went on it and had tremendous success. I was worried they were unhealthy, but when I read up on it, the diet seems very sensible and easy.

The name is stupid, unfortunately, as it brings to mind a celebrity fad diet. But it's actually based on much sounder principles than Atkins appears to be.

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I've been considering it, actually, Boris.

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I am sure that there were cases found on US farms.


IIRC, they just found their first case of Mad Cow not linked to Canadian stock.

 
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