10-05-2005 06:07									#31
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quote: Since when does making everybody like you equate to good social skills?

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Good Lord, this is just plain sad. I can't even think of anything witty to say about this one. Sometimes people just pwn themselves, I guess.

EDIT: I know a dude taking 5 AP classes, and he's better off socially than certain posters here, but he really sacrifices a lot to do it. A high school senior should be spending every night out instead of studying.

Anyway, you're going to hold the celebratory party for this event in your second master bedroom, skywalker?

	10-05-2005 06:08									#32
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hurry up and make a snide remark about kuci's continued selfpwnage before I go back to TOTALLY PWN KOTOR AGAIN!!!!!

	10-05-2005 06:08									#33
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I try to resist the temptation, but the threads just keep coming...

	10-05-2005 06:09									#34
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quote: Originally posted by Pekka What bathroom thing? (me me me me!)

http://www.apolyton.net/forums/show...30&pagenumber=1

	10-05-2005 06:09									#35
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quote: Originally posted by joncha I try to resist the temptation, but the threads just keep coming...

I can now beat Malak. Thank you, irate:

	10-05-2005 06:12									#36
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quote: Originally posted by Asher Well, look at it this way. Look what full IB did for you, and look what doing zero homework in highschool did for me. High school doesn't matter. You do "good enough" to get into university and enjoy your youth.

Yes, but when "good enough" is top marks on the IB, it does matter what you did. It's perfectly possible to enjoy your youth and get top marks on IB.

You're the one who says that youth is about enjoyment, not grades, and yet you're the same one who believes you're better off because you're working for IBM. Life is about enjoyment, not just achievement. BK may enjoy his work as much as you enjoy yours, so the:

"I'm the person who only took one IB course... I'm working at IBM.

You took full IB and you're working construction."

Thing isn't really the point. So what? That matters about as much as your grades do.

	10-05-2005 06:16									#37
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quote: Originally posted by Drogue You're the one who says that youth is about enjoyment, not grades, and yet you're the same one who believes you're better off because you're working for IBM. Life is about enjoyment, not just achievement. BK may enjoy his work as much as you enjoy yours, so the: "I'm the person who only took one IB course... I'm working at IBM. You took full IB and you're working construction." Thing isn't really the point. So what? That matters about as much as your grades do.

He may enjoy it, but that's not the point.

The point was what full IB did for him -- the time sink it is. What did it accomplish for him that regular studies didn't accomplish for me?

	10-05-2005 06:18									#38
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quote: Originally posted by mrmitchell ... Good Lord, this is just plain sad. I can't even think of anything witty to say about this one. Sometimes people just pwn themselves, I guess.

I guess you're fundamentally confused about what good social skills are as well.

It's something independent of if you like the person.

Someone who is agreeable doesn't have good social skills by definition. I would argue the opposite -- that they sacrifice objectivity and reason for being polite and well-liked.

	10-05-2005 06:21									#39
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pchang, OUCH! That was one brutal thread.. read every page of it

But I don't know why people would hold it against him. He's a lot like me. I talk smack all the time and promote myself more than D. Trump. Blessed be the day when I don't come screaming how insanely rich I'll become etc. And I believe that, sincerely. This means that a) none of you bastards belive me and think I'm not worth even trashing because I just might be too deluded or b) You all believe me and don't want to piss me off because later on I could just by a cruise missile just to launch it at your house, because I'm stubborn SOB like that, would wait 10 years just to do that and work hard for it, just to blow up your house for calling me Nancy in a thread once.

	10-05-2005 06:26									#40
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Tass, I am big physically, I am huge downstairs and I'm not afraid to say it, even though jealous people will come and scream 'this be the opposite now!!1'. I admit, my bank account is still waiting to be huge but that's only a matter of time. EVerything else is already a fact and I'm proud to say it in here, even if you don't believe it. That's the caliber of my testicular fortitude

	10-05-2005 06:32									#41
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quote: Originally posted by Pekka pchang, OUCH! That was one brutal thread.. read every page of it But I don't know why people would hold it against him. He's a lot like me. I talk smack all the time and promote myself more than D. Trump. Blessed be the day when I don't come screaming how insanely rich I'll become etc. And I believe that, sincerely. This means that a) none of you bastards belive me and think I'm not worth even trashing because I just might be too deluded or b) You all believe me and don't want to piss me off because later on I could just by a cruise missile just to launch it at your house, because I'm stubborn SOB like that, would wait 10 years just to do that and work hard for it, just to blow up your house for calling me Nancy in a thread once.

Or c) your posts are too long for anyone to read, much less respond to with any degree of scathing witticism.

Or a and c.

	10-05-2005 06:35									#42
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quote: Originally posted by Asher He may enjoy it, but that's not the point. The point was what full IB did for him -- the time sink it is. What did it accomplish for him that regular studies didn't accomplish for me?

If he is more happy than he would be having not done IB, then it has accomplished something regular studies wouldn't have. You may have been better off (higher up, easier time in college, better paid, better job) if you'd done the IB. You might not be, but to say it's useless because you did well without it is falicious. The IB is useful if you want to go to a good school, being that it's harder. Sure, it may not be worth it, but it may be.

he may be happier because of the IB, you might be if you'd taken it. It's not useless.

	10-05-2005 06:46									#43
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Asher:

8 months ago I was working construction, I've had a couple jobs since then. I'm doing data entry plus lots of other stuff for a friend of mine right now, and quite enjoying it.

quote: The point was what full IB did for him -- the time sink it is. What did it accomplish for him that regular studies didn't accomplish for me?

First of all, I am not you. The decisions that you make about your life are not the ones that I will make. So to compare your life with mine is not the right question.

Secondly, you have benefitted from IB, although not from the full program. As a certificate student, the question is really, would the full program be superior to the certificate?

Finally, I greatly thrived under the IB program, I did very well in high school under that arrangement. It prepared me well in first year sciences at UBC as I had hardly anything new.

The longest essay I have written was in IB, for my extended essay. On the effects of magnetic fields in the early stages of stellar evolution.

I doubt I would have been better off in the regular program, because I liked having the best teachers and the most challenging classes available.

The reason I say they are sour grapes is because of your original comments insulting me and the IB program without prior provocation.

	10-05-2005 06:50									#44
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quote: Someone who is agreeable doesn't have good social skills by definition. I would argue the opposite -- that they sacrifice objectivity and reason for being polite and well-liked.

So you believe that I am willing to sacrifice my ideals in order to be well liked?

	10-05-2005 06:51									#45
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Lest this thread go off topic...

quote: Originally posted by joncha

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Don't worry about it, Kenobi. Asher is just a nothing intern in an out of the way branch of a multi-national corporation who isn't even aware he exists. He tries to make it out to be more than it is, but he's fooling nobody, not even himself, therefore he insults others in order to deflect any criticism of himself. He can't help it, it's his nature - just check out his blast at UR and Agathon in his latest tech thread. It came out of nowhere, had nothing to do with the subject at hand, but he couldn't resist himself.

Such a tact might score him feel-good points on a message board, but will serve him poorly once he gets into an actual position of authority. If he gets into an actual position of authority.

	10-05-2005 06:52									#47
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quote: Originally posted by Ben Kenobi So you believe that I am willing to sacrifice my ideals in order to be well liked?

No, but I'm willing to bet you sacrifice reason and fairness for your ideals.

And that's not a good thing.

	10-05-2005 06:54									#48
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quote: My teacher has given us many, many, individual problems that were harder and took longer than the entire test.

Just like it should be.

quote: i wish i oxned my exams

I wish you wouldn't waste federal money by trying to study at an university and smoking pot at the same time

quote: High school doesn't matter. You do "good enough" to get into university and enjoy your youth. The IB nerds wasted their youth for nothing.

Off-topic question: "Enjoy your youth" is a secularist codeword for getting drunk and ****ing around, isn't it? I've spent a while now, trying to figure out exactly what it means, but that's the most plausible meaning I could think of considering the situations it is being used as an excuse.

quote: What did it accomplish for him that regular studies didn't accomplish for me?

There's this thing called "learning". Some of us go to school to learn, some of us go to get a nice stamp, clearance to the next level and time for "enjoying our youth."

	10-05-2005 06:56									#49
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quote: Originally posted by JohnT Don't worry about it, Kenobi. Asher is just a nothing intern in an out of the way branch of a multi-national corporation who probably isn't even aware he exists.

Over 70% of IBM interns are hired back full-time when they graduate. The others usually accept offers from elsewhere.

The program is called "EPIC" (Employment Pathways for Interns and Coops) for a reason. They hire you for 16 months, you work just like any other new hire in your field, and they almost always offer you the job full time when you graduate. It's essentially a trial employment. Most of the members on my team began as interns here in the EPIC program.

As usual, you've no idea what you're talking about. Your run a company that distributes phone books in an age when Google Local threatens your very being -- I understand your bitterness.

quote: He tries to make it out to be more than it is, but he's fooling nobody and has to result to insults about others in order to deflect any criticism of himself. He can't help it - just check out his blast at UR and Agathon in his latest tech thread. It came out of nowhere, had nothing to do with the subject at hand, but he couldn't resist himself. Such a tact might score him feel-good points on a message board, but will serve him poorly once he gets into an actual position of authority.

Which thread?

Agathon's opinions of technology are as well-informed and reasonable as UR's opinions of democracy.

	10-05-2005 07:11									#50
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quote: Your run a company that distributes phone books in an age when Google Local threatens your very being -- I understand your bitterness.

Actually, I sold it. I'm kind of taking the year off, working some consulting gigs at my parents and other companies, but I no longer own or am involved in CRG.

	10-05-2005 07:13									#51
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quote: Didn't you convert to another religion simply to please your girlfriend at the time?

I started going to masses before I met her, and I didn't convert until a year after we had broken up.

	10-05-2005 07:14									#52
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quote: Originally posted by JohnT Actually, I sold it. I'm kind of taking the year off, working some consulting gigs at my parents and other companies, but I no longer own or am involved in CRG.

Unemployed and consulting for your parents company? The one that you badmouthed repeatedly on these forums?

	10-05-2005 07:29									#53
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about a year after they broke up

JM

	10-05-2005 07:32									#54
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I proposed after my confirmation, with her as my sponsor.

	10-05-2005 07:34									#55
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You people disgust me

	10-05-2005 07:55									#56
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Pity me. I had to mark exams today.

	10-05-2005 08:20									#57
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haha

you sure would have more fun marking me, at least I make jokes in my papers but the correctors are full of **** and they substract points

	10-05-2005 08:25									#58
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quote: Originally posted by Asher Unemployed and consulting for your parents company? The one that you badmouthed repeatedly on these forums?

Unemployed? Projected income this year is $70k, not counting the gain from selling CRG.

Consulting for my parents company? Get a few years on you kid and you, too, will be surprised at the turns life makes.

	10-05-2005 10:03									#59
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When I was a twenty something year old punk, I knew that I knew everything worth knowing. Later, I knew all there was that I did not know. Now, I realise I don't even know that much. But, I do know that I know a lot more than a twenty something year old punk.

	10-05-2005 10:06									#60
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Well, I guess that shows your ignorance more than anything else.

I don't claim to know everything worth knowing, nor would I ever claim such a thing.