17-05-2005 03:09									#31
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quote: Originally posted by mrmitchell I don't call it that bad. 5% of the parents are *******s. 5% of them will be your best friend and help out. Another 67% will just come to parent teacher conferences and be nice but won't get in your way. Although honestly you'll probably never see the rest of them.

I didn't meet that many that I liked, but I admit that you never meet most of them.

	17-05-2005 03:10									#32
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I work as a Latin tutor in high school. If you want to teach, don't you ever do anything lower than college!!

	17-05-2005 03:13									#33
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quote: Originally posted by Boris Godunov I'm more looking at teaching at a high school level, but I thought about the whole community college route a lot. I certainly wouldn't be opposed to that. I would, however, like an environment where it's possible to have bonds with the students, which is very hard at a community college level. At high school, you can do a lot such as sponsor clubs, meet with parents, attend sports events and other extra-curricular stuff.

Well if that is what you prefer, more power to you.



I personally prefer teaching young adults though, over teaching children or high school teenagers.


EDIT: Of course, I can't forget that I teach non-traditional students as well, who are in their 30s, 40s or 50s.

	17-05-2005 03:15									#34
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Two reasons to teach college instead

1) all the worst students are automatically weeded out

2) no parents

	17-05-2005 03:17									#35
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Kid, you really shouldn't go out of your way to knock what someone else believes he would enjoy doing.




I don't ever want to teach below college level, but I can understand and respect those who have an interest in teaching children or high school teenagers.

	17-05-2005 03:18									#36
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Oh, and if any of the kids ever say you're gay, it doesn't mean you've been pulled out of any closets. It just means they don't like you.

	17-05-2005 03:20									#37
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quote: Originally posted by MrFun Kid, you really shouldn't go out of your way to knock what someone else believes he would enjoy doing.

He'll appreciate it once he starts.

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Boris, I don't have any advice to give you as to how to pursue this.

But I wish you all the best of luck. I'm sure you'd make a fantastic teacher.

I hated history until I had the best teacher of my life in 9th grade.

	17-05-2005 04:01									#39
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Like Guy said, I don't have any advice to give you on how to pursue this, but note that AFAIK you can go directly from your BFA into an MA program. I have heard that many/most public schools now require a masters.

Good luck.

	17-05-2005 04:34									#40
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quote: Originally posted by Kidicious Boris, What kind of personality do you have? Can you be an *******? You are going to have to be one, especially during the first part of the school year or they are going to chew you up and spit you out.

Strange. Maybe the school environment you lived in was different from mine, I don't know. In any case we never dissed on teachers, unless they deserved it. If they were good and interesting we were actually eager to have those classes. If you have problems, 75% chance that it's more or less your own fault.
I've had great teachers (a vast minority though unfortunately... in my school ) that had little or no authority at all and I still learnt and enjoyed myself more in that one year that in say the 3 years before that!


Like, giving a helluvalot of (difficult and pointless) tests and being severe and teaching 'ex cathedra' doesn't motivate people to enjoy the class you know...

Doing a test doesn't make pupils study... I never did it anyway. The more severe the worse, in order to make people study I mean. Motivating them so they are interested in the matter themselves works much more in my experience.
In my last 2 years of high school I had a **** teacher for history class, my favourite subject. I totally hated it and I learnt nothing there

ehm so far the

	17-05-2005 06:32									#41
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Sounds fantastic Boris. I think you'll make a great teacher.

Hard work, but can be rewarding if you put a lot into it. The worst teachers are those who are teachers by default, which you clearly are not doing

/s the son of an English teacher.

	17-05-2005 06:34									#42
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Kid's experiences are definetly NOT universal. In my school history was one of the favored subjects because we had a number of good teachers in it.

	17-05-2005 09:09									#43
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quote: Originally posted by Trajanus If you have problems, 75% chance that it's more or less your own fault.

It was my own fault, but not because I was mean. I wasn't prepared for it, and I let them take advantage of me. Your experience as a student doesn't really allow you to see what teachers go through and what they have to do to do their job. I thought that all of my students would be as good of a student as I was and be as eager for knowledge. Most students aren't like that. If they think that you are too easy and they can make a party out of your room they will.

	17-05-2005 09:38									#44
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Boris, check your PM. If you don't know if teaching is what you want, head to Asia for a year before you potentially waste your time on a master's degree or teaching certification.

quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui Kid's experiences are definetly NOT universal. In my school history was one of the favored subjects because we had a number of good teachers in it.

Yeah, in my history tutoring classes at my Hagwon (place for after school lessons) I've got some history classes for kids who're planning to go to boarding school kids and I consider a class a failure unless I get a whole bunch of laughs. For example yesterday I had some kids cracking up about the gorier bits of the Egil Skallagrimson saga and mediaval sanitary practices...

	17-05-2005 09:51									#45
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BG - pfft to those naysayers.

While teaching is not for everybody, if you have the right personality for it and you can roll with punches, I'm sure you will find the experience rewarding.

I teach language arts in a high school full of special education kids and I hope to grab that opening in the history department for the fall. There are bad days but there are terrific days and moments where you just have to go 'awww' when you find out that that particular kid who gave you hard time during your first weeks declared to other teachers that you're a great teacher.

Go for it!

	17-05-2005 09:54									#46
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I am just about to complete my first semester teaching.



It was a special, baptismal experience with the good and the bad. And a learning experience for me, as well as for the students. My teaching skills will only improve from here on and I have no regrets from my experience with this first semester.

	17-05-2005 20:23									#47
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quote: Originally posted by Kidicious It was my own fault, but not because I was mean. I wasn't prepared for it, and I let them take advantage of me. Your experience as a student doesn't really allow you to see what teachers go through and what they have to do to do their job.

This is where I think I have an advantage. Knowing what my mom experiences from the other side is invaluable in this regard. I'm fairly close to her teacher friends, who were also my high school teachers. So I've gotten all the tales, the good, bad and ugly about being a teacher.

As I told Bosh in pm, I have a different perspective than many. Most teachers tend to get into it straight out of college and never experience other types of work. Me, I've been out here in the rat race of corporate America, and have had a good variety of jobs. So I don't think I'll have as much of the "grass is greener" syndrome that many teachers get--I know it ain't so green here.

quote: I thought that all of my students would be as good of a student as I was and be as eager for knowledge. Most students aren't like that. If they think that you are too easy and they can make a party out of your room they will.

See, I don't think that will be such a problem--I don't have such expectations of kids. I know that most won't be the kind of student I was. And discipline is something I learned from my mom. I can boom pretty loudly (thank you, opera training!) and have often scared the hell out of people with a yell. I know a healthy dose of fear is good for teacher/student relations.

	17-05-2005 20:27									#48
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quote: Originally posted by Boris Godunov I can boom pretty loudly (thank you, opera training!) and have often scared the hell out of people with a yell.

But never yell. The first day you yell you've lost control and they will all know it. You should do well with lots of people to help you. Good luck

	18-05-2005 01:39									#49
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I agrre with some of the other posters that Boris should teach at a community college or tech school. Teachers get paid peanuts, and you'll be more busy keeping the kids under control than teaching if my classmates were anything to go by.


BTW, I am hoping to become a Uni professor. What kind of salary and benifits do they get?

	18-05-2005 01:42									#50
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Pretend you're not gay and teach in a conseravtive Christian school. They don't have credentials.

	18-05-2005 01:47									#51
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara Pretend you're not gay and teach in a conseravtive Christian school. They don't have credentials.

That shouldn't be too hard since homosexuality is a CHOICE and anyone who is gay
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	18-05-2005 02:46									#53
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Very noble...

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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara Pretend you're not gay and teach in a conseravtive Christian school. They don't have credentials.

I can ask the Catholic private school in the rural town I grew up in, to see if they want a new teacher . . . . .






Then, I will have Boris kidnapped, bound, and shipped there and remain there for life.

	18-05-2005 11:05									#55
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Leave your perverted fantasies out of this.

	20-05-2005 09:35									#56
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Had a very encouraging conversation today with one of my best friends, who is a teacher. When I told her of my plan, she said "it's about time!" She and several others I know have told me that I'd be a great teacher and it's something I was meant to do.

Now I'm pumped! HOOYAH!

	20-05-2005 09:44									#57
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Maybe you would be interested in visiting the blogs of other historians, Boris.




I provided links to some of them in my last post in the thread I started.