29-05-2005 00:57									#181
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quote: Originally posted by Berzerker lets "pretend", a %70 out of wedlock rate among blacks, %30 among whites, and all the negative consequences associated with those numbers is outweighed by what?

Let's not. The last time I saw a statisic for this (which, I'll admit, was over a decade ago) the teen pregnancy rate was one tenth of a percentage point higher for whites than Blacks.

	29-05-2005 08:31									#182
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara Let's not. The last time I saw a statisic for this (which, I'll admit, was over a decade ago) the teen pregnancy rate was one tenth of a percentage point higher for whites than Blacks.

I hate to give Berz any ground in this argument, but he seems to be close-to-right about this one. According to this breakdown of the stats at a US Census website, the numbers are different -- and worse --- than he suggests, but the spread is about the same:

quote: During 1990-94, 41 percent of first births were born out-of-wedlock, 12 percent were conceived before women's first marriage and the remainder were conceived post maritally. Significant differences were found in the proportion of first births either premaritally born or conceived between white women (45 percent) and black women (86 percent). Hispanic women had an intermediate proportion of first births either premaritally born or conceived (54 percent).

Of course, that was 10-15 years ago, but it seems unlikely that there's been either a big drop or a big closing of the gap.