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Saras is offline Saras
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I live for underappreciated and/or overhyped small and microcaps.


Ok, half-sucker, then

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Real Estate. +18% leveraged return in one year.


I'm now over +26 percent in 43 days. Go INTZ, go!

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Aren't you suppose to sell high?

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Ok, half-sucker, then


Yeah, and I'll half-suck all the way to the bank, too.

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I'm now over +26 percent in 43 days. Go INTZ, go!


Not bad. A tad too volatile, non?

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yeah man, buy high sell high

it's all groovy

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Aren't you suppose to sell high?


Yeah, but wether I sell before I buy or after makes no difference to me.

I'm just as happy shorting the overhyped garbage and making money as I am in buying undervalued shares and selling when they get some market attention.

The toughest part, once you have some real money to throw into these things is making sure the microcaps have enough daily liquidity that you don't distort the market yourself or get hung out to dry by sticking around after a trading surge.

Luckily, I'm currently working in the institutional part of a brokerage as a consultant, so I have access to a lot of goodies without the trading restrictions imposed on employees.

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Microcaps are scary... I'll stick with my volatile large caps

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Not bad. A tad too volatile, non?


Only if I was going to stick around. I just have to hang for two more days to avoid a free-riding hit, but the current ride on INTZ has been steady and solid, and they're showing serious signs of getting their act together.

Regardless, once I'm off the free-riding period restriction, I'll dump it and move on to the next target.

IIJI is another hottie I had earlier, and it's kept going up, but I don't see a lot of future opportunity in comparison to the risk of a little bubble popping, since it's run up so far so fast.

I also got a good ride off of Starbucks, when I bought in the mid 47 range prior to their most recent earnings announcement.

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Microcaps are scary... I'll stick with my volatile large caps


Microcaps are beautiful, but it's not like you want to hold on to the things... - I just play off the lemmings who stampede in or out on the basis of whatever the news report of the day might be. Look at the fundamentals and technical analysis, look at the real time price and volume, make an estimate of what I call the "Rationality Index" and then set a buy and sell point.

If I miss my buy point, I don't chase the price up, I just start researching other volatile microcaps. Unlike these day-trader dumbasses who are usually just addicts using the markets as an online casino substitute.

The other thing I never do is try to see how far I can ride a price swing, whether I'm long or short - I preset my exit point and put the order in and live with it. With Able Energy (ABLE), I missed, since the stock has continued to run up, but I made a 6% net profit in one day on that transaction, so who the hell cares?

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You're really just a Trader, not an investor.

I like to think I'm an investor, I don't have enough time to trade that much.

Though if I spent more time researching than posting...

naw, you'd all miss me

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You're really just a Trader, not an investor.

I like to think I'm an investor, I don't have enough time to trade that much.

Though if I spent more time researching than posting...

naw, you'd all miss me


I prefer "speculator" but "parasitic capitalist vulture" works just fine, too.

The investment is my money, not the stuff my money has bought at the moment. If I trade successfully first, I'll have more to invest at the end.


Buy and hold and watch the company grow is nice, and if you've got Buffett's capital the only way to go, but too much of the market is driven by the whims of a bunch of New York yuppies for my tastes, so I work to beat them at their own game, at least until I've got enough that getting my investments pushed around by their games won't faze me.

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Luckily, I'm currently working in the institutional part of a brokerage as a consultant, so I have access to a lot of goodies without the trading restrictions imposed on employees.


I presume you mean access to little known public information. If not I may have to report you as part of the cross-border co-operation we have on fraud prevention.

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I presume you mean access to little known public information. If not I may have to report you as part of the cross-border co-operation we have on fraud prevention.


I get access to a lot of real time filtering, reporting and analytical tools that I'd otherwise have to pay license fees to use. Nothing unavailable to the public, I just get to use it free while I'm here.

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You evil capitalist!!

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Damn straight. In about five years, I'll drop out of the job market and let someone else sweat for peanuts.

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You've joined the dark side, haven't you?

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You evil capitalist!!


Actually he's more like a hanger on.

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I listen to Klein, Pavlis, and Peasley on the radio, and they are down in SD... the seem to know what they are talking about.

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Actually he's more like a hanger on.


I don't mind being a remora as long as I get towed along for plenty of good eatin'

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I listen to Klein, Pavlis, and Peasley on the radio, and they are down in SD... the seem to know what they are talking about.


On the larger scale, there are a lot of good analysts out their, but when you're investing in institutional or wealty investor scale blocks, there's usually a limit to what you can do short-term without distorting the market adversely to your trading goals. At that scale, the guys who are digging into long term value can be very good, but I don't like doing the placid, buy and hold thing with 5 to 100 grand scale investing.

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You've joined the dark side, haven't you?


Give in to the dark side, others will be better off for it.

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no

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Give in to the dark side, others will be better off for it.


After you've got their money?

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No, when I drop out of the job market, that'll be a job for some other peon to fill. Unemployment will go down, his or her income will go up, and all will be happy.

As far as the other people, they may have made money if they bought lower than me, or sell higher than me, or they may have lost money if they did the opposite, but their money is their concern, not mine.

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OK, then work till you're f'in 70 and let the government take care of you in your old age.

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I can live the good life sooner without joining the dark side.

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I can live the good life sooner without joining the dark side.


When I'm sailing around the world with my son, I'll be sure and call you at work and ask you how the good life is going.

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MtG; how much do you think YOU will need to retire? (in today's dollar)

Also, assuming the boat is paid for (I want a power catm, but this one will do)

 
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