09-06-2005 16:51									#31
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me never posting here but just have to say

second front and red front

	11-06-2005 19:53									#32
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Justinianum: Red Front is Techumseh's? An older Captain Nemo's? these are yours? cheers man

	11-06-2005 21:49									#33
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Biru Biru: have you actually read the replies to your thread?

quote: Red Front-------------------Michael Nielson (Captain Nemo)

	11-06-2005 22:21									#34
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what happened to the ToT red front project,

	12-06-2005 00:30									#35
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The toughest scenario that I have ever played is Colwyn's Red Front v1.5, a major re-work of Nemo's Red Front v1.4 classic. It is so much more difficult than the original that it's scary.

As for the TOT redux, I haven't heard anything from FMK since his January computer crash.

	12-06-2005 08:28									#36
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Alright, b/c there seems to be a couple of Red Front's out there... Captain Nemo's being the classic?

I saw an amazing looking Red Front at Techumseh's site, including movie intro instead of title page, but can't play it yet b/c I need ToT.

Have found some seemingly abandoned scenario collections out there. Is the collection here at apolyton the most up-to-date? Related question, where is the best public collection of scenarios? (again, no criteria; best organized, category peak, current, etc)...

Anyway, thanks for the replies!

	12-06-2005 09:46									#37
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quote: Originally posted by biru biru Alright, b/c there seems to be a couple of Red Front's out there... Captain Nemo's being the classic? I saw an amazing looking Red Front at Techumseh's site, including movie intro instead of title page, but can't play it yet b/c I need ToT. Have found some seemingly abandoned scenario collections out there. Is the collection here at apolyton the most up-to-date? Related question, where is the best public collection of scenarios? (again, no criteria; best organized, category peak, current, etc)... Anyway, thanks for the replies!

Sorry dude but your thinking of Tech's "Red October".

The most complete collection can probably be found over at Civfanatics.com.

	12-06-2005 12:01									#39
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Red Front

	12-06-2005 15:15									#40
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Best civ2 scenario ever:

The struggle for Europe by Marko Urm (though the graphics is not the very best)

My other favourites:

Brown Man's Burden II: the Scramble for Africa by Carl Fritz
Blitzkrieg 1942 by Eivind
Blood and Steel Juggernaut by Steph Sanders (best civ2 graphics I've ever seen!)

	12-06-2005 20:25									#41
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I spent a couple of months at apolyton just downloading scenarios and patches while i started to learn how to use the new tools, so I have definitely seen and enjoyed some of these, like LOR trilogy, Star Trek, and Colonization. Trying to get Red Front to work, but the batch file doesn't seem to be getting the unit graphics and such to come out right! Anyway, of course I have to try these scenarios, since I asked for them! again, thanks...

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I see a lot of great recommendations and I plan on trying a good few of them from that first list. The "Bestonet" section of Spanish civ site shows several but it doesn't show what the requirement is for running. Should I assume that they all work on vanilla? Or is multi or fantastic the req stated in a readme after downloading perhaps? Thanks.

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quote: Originally posted by ecc Should I assume that they all work on vanilla? Or is multi or fantastic the req stated in a readme after downloading perhaps? Thanks.

Sadly, no!

Virtually no scen will work with vanilla civ... For them, you'd need FW, MPG or ToT!

	16-06-2005 14:55									#44
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If you only have vanilla civ, go here:
http://civfanatics.com/civ2/downloads/cedric/

	17-06-2005 02:27									#45
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2194 Days of War - The Scenario that defined my life!

	19-06-2005 09:07									#46
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I think Gothmog's "Justinian the Great" is about the best scenario I've ever played. Jesus Munoz's scenarios should not be overlooked. His "Thirty Years War" is a classic, and ideal for PBEM. Going back a little farther, Harlan Thompson's "Lord of the Rings" was what really turned me on to scenario making - I personally prefer version 2.0 with sounds.

Otherwise, I see little to disagree with on Fairline's list. And I second Case's addition of "Cruel Sea".

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quote: Going back a little farther, Harlan Thompson's "Lord of the Rings" was what really turned me on to scenario making - I personally prefer version 2.0 with sounds.

I also love that scen. Where can this exact version be found?

	21-06-2005 20:24									#48
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Related slightly to the topic of favorite scenarios;
Some of the top scenarios currently stored here at Apolyton: (note: very few of very many have been rated or organized obviously according to quality...)

Top scenarios stored at apolyton'

under database archives>scenarios>

1) Nuclear War, no obvious author or supporting docs
2) Save the whales (OCC challenge)
3) Age of Imperialism, Sebastian Melde
4) New World Order

database archives>modpacks

1) Colonize
2) Subwar, Bebro
3) Moria Flight into Dark, Favored Flight
4) Return of the King, "
5) Fellowship of the Ring, "
6) Imperium Romanium, Bebro
7) Colonies III, Patient English
8) Imperial Conference
9) 2194 Days of War, Pap
10) War of Cuba, JB
11) Lord of the Rings, Harlan Thompspon
12) The Mysterious Cities of Gold, Pano
13) Death and Resurrection of Empire, Mathias
14) Day of Treason, The Nani
15) Star Trek Wars, Joe Santurri
16) Yugoslavia: Suicide of a European Nation
17) Exodus 1947, The Nani (sound files missing)
18) Magical History, GR Fullman-Hall
19) The Cruel Sea, Case
20) The Battle of Australia, Case
21) .... Sid Mier's Civilization, John Miles

database archives>Ultimate Civ II Archives>Scenarios
(410 stored scenarios, only the top 2 ranked, the rest alphabetical)

1) STU1, STU2, (star Trek Universe, rated at 5 stars)


database archives>Ultimate Civ II Archives>Modpacks

1) b5main, b5snd1, b5snd2, b5snd3 rated at 5, no review or author
rest of 172 modpacks are alphabetically located

database archives>Ultimate Civ II Archives>First Greek CIV II Site
76 scenarios, 56 mods. non pmarked, but colonize and Neral's Star Trek on the first page

It looks like the new Sleague scenarios section is going to be very complete and easy to use. looking fwd to it!

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quote: Originally posted by Arthedain I also love that scen. Where can this exact version be found?

Good Question:

1) Civfanatics (civfanatics.com/civ2/downloads/scenarios/fantasy) hosts version 2.0, but no sounds. This version is one of those rare scenarios designed for the almost forgotten "Conflicts in Civilization". It will work with "Fantastic Worlds", but not "vanilla"

2) Apolyton (csc.apolyton.net) hosts version 3.0, but again, no sounds. Another CiC scenario.

3) Spanish Civ Site (spanish.apolyton.net) also hosts version 3.0, no sounds.

4) The Ultimate Civ2 Site Archives (apolyton.net/civ2/) hosts v3.0, and the sounds are included in the zip file. The only downside is you really have to root around to find this thing (it's on page 21).

For anyone who may be interested, I have versions 4.0 and 4.0 beta (both with sounds). These are the versions designed for "Fantastic Worlds", which means, among other things, more units and more events. The file dates are only two weeks apart, so I'm guessing that 4.0 contained some bugs that were fixed in the beta. If these versions don't exist anywhere else, I'll happily provide them to anyone who asks.

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If Catfish ever gets around to finishing his ToT version, then it will set a new standard for Tolkein scenarios.

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quote: Originally posted by fairline I've never played that one Kull. Do you know where it's available (other than by pestering Tech)?

spanish civ2 site

	22-06-2005 22:19									#52
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quote: Originally posted by Kull For anyone who may be interested, I have versions 4.0 and 4.0 beta (both with sounds). These are the versions designed for "Fantastic Worlds", which means, among other things, more units and more events. The file dates are only two weeks apart, so I'm guessing that 4.0 contained some bugs that were fixed in the beta. If these versions don't exist anywhere else, I'll happily provide them to anyone who asks.

raises his hand.

Are you planning to have it posted somewhere for download?

	23-06-2005 05:22									#53
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quote: Originally posted by kobayashi raises his hand. Are you planning to have it posted somewhere for download?

Here are the links:

http://cullivan.com/civ/scenarios/LOTR/LOTR4.zip

http://cullivan.com/civ/scenarios/LOTR/LOTR4b.zip

http://cullivan.com/civ/scenarios/LOTR/LOTR4SND.zip

(Sounds are the same for both versions)

	23-06-2005 08:32									#54
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did you mean that the 4.0 beta's date is after the 4.0?

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quote: Originally posted by kobayashi did you mean that the 4.0 beta's date is after the 4.0?

Uh yes.....I suppose that wasn't intuitive!

Better it should be called V4.1 or V4.0a. One noteworthy difference between v3 and v4 is that Harlan didn't include the Isengard variant in v4. So if you want to play as Saruman, you'll have to stick with v3.

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Alrighty then, tab of top choices in so far, roughly in order of number times recommended; attached word doc has links for the top 20 or so included, al of which had two or more recs.

Note: still missing Boco's 'El Aurens', if someone can help me find it. All other links either came form Spanish civ site, or civ fanatics.

TOP PICKS SO FAR

Red Front-----------------------------Michael Nielson, Alex Mor
Red Front v1.5---------------------- Colwyn link
Seeds of Greatness --------------- Paul Cullivan (Kull)
Justinian ----------------------------- Carl Fritz (Gothmog)
LOTR 4.1----------------------------- Harlan Thompson
Lord of Rings ------------------------ Favored Flight
Operation Market Garden(ToT)---Brian Mason (Techumseh)
Colonies series--------------------- John Ellis
Imperium Romanum --------------- Bernd Brosing (BeBro)
Hellas ------------------------------- John Ellis (Patient English)
Dictator Series----------------------Ciaran Slavin (Curtsibling)
2194 Days of War----------- Michael Nielson (Captain Nemo)
El Aurens (ToT)-----------------------Dave Wiley (Boco)
Riverwar v2.0 ------------------------ Allard Hofelt (AllardHS)
Quest for Asia ------------------------ Stefan Hartel
Brown Man's Burden ---------------- Carl Fritz (Gothmog)
Second Front ---------------- Michael Nielson (Captain Nemo)
Raging Dragon------------------------Nick Dowling (Case)
The Cruel Sea v2 -------------------- Nick Dowling (Case)

ST:BAQ------------------------------- Kobayashi
ST: Dominion War------------------- Kobayashi
Empire -------------------------------- Carl Fritz
Imperialism 2 ------------------------ Phenix Benton (Exile)
DAROAE ---------------------------- Mathias Koster (Hendrik the Great)
Fading Lights ------------------------ Maciej Czyz (Heresson)
Bonaparte ---------------------------- John Ellis
Carolus Invictissimus--------------- Jesus Menoz
Senguko Jidai 2 --------------------- Kevin Chulski (DarthVeda)
Second Reich------------------------ Mike Jeszenka (Magyar Crusader)
Russian Civil War (ToT)-----------Brian Mason (Techumseh)
Spartacus------------------------------Alex Mor (Alex the Magnificent)
Age of the Crusades-----------------Phenix Benton (Exile)
Of Celts and Iberians -------------- Jesus Belsinde
Vikings ------------------------------ Harlan Thompson
Underdark----------------------------
La Belle Epoque --------------------Eivind
Battle for Algiers--------------------Carl Fritz
Crises of the New World Order--- Andrew Livings
the Great Napoleanic Battles------
Afrika Korps ------------------------John Petroski
+ Up the Deadly Boot-------------- John Petroski
Prince of Darkness---------------- Tecumseh
East, Wind, Rain------------------Don Melson
Broken Kingdom-----------------
Age of Crusades------------------
The Norvegian Campaign-------
Subwarse--------------------------
The Downfall of 3rd Reich----- Gotterdammerüng
Dungeon--------------------------
Battle for Sevastople------------
Stalingrad (unfinished)---------
Operation Herbstnebel----------
Battle of Ardennes---------------
Shadow Over Mystara-----------Justinianum
Blood and Steel Juggernaut-----Steph Sanders
The struggle for Europe -------- Marko Urm
Thirty Years War---------------- Jesus Munoz's
Blitzkrieg 1942-------------------Eivind
Facist 4.2 mod, S1Genocide. --
The Third Reigh-----------------Michael Jeszenka


And the file with links to the top 20;

Attachment: tp2.zip
This has been downloaded 7 time(s).

	25-06-2005 05:59									#57
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Note, to access a link directly from the attached word document, hold 'cntrl' and click. (thanks chiemi for the tip)

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quote: Originally posted by techumseh If Catfish ever gets around to finishing his ToT version, then it will set a new standard for Tolkein scenarios.

It sure will. I would also like to point out that Alejandro (academia) has made some fine Tolkien scenarios too, though not about the War of the Ring.

Anyways, I have versiobn 4.1 of the LOTR scen. I guess it can be founded in the bestonnet section of the spanish civ-site.

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quote: Originally posted by Arthedain Anyways, I have versiobn 4.1 of the LOTR scen. I guess it can be founded in the bestonnet section of the spanish civ-site.

I'm curious, does it actually say "v4.1" in the readme file? I haven't seen versions higher than 3.0 posted anywhere, and mine are v4.0 (Note - the Spanish Civ site has v3.0, as noted in an earlier post)

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I'm pretty sure it says 4.1. Unfortunatly I can't find out right now cause my own computer is broken. I will get back on this when it's fixed though.