18-06-2005 04:53									#31
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No bad vibes at all.

	18-06-2005 09:28									#32
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The first tournament had restarts because there were random tribes. This time with picked tribes, no restarts was a stated condition from the beginning. Proximity of fresh water is the lone achille's heel for Ag tribes. Note that I didn't do this to 'sabotage' Ag, it's a feature designed into the game.

Starts aren't all 'equal', but they should all allow survival to the point where players can contact each other and find compensation with diplomacy. There are also 5 instead of 4 players, which makes for more diplomatic options...

Cricket is played on a 'field', Civ is played on a 'world'. Part of the game is a certain amount of divine RNG fiat.

Last edited by Rommel2D on 19-06-2005 at 07:26

	18-06-2005 12:20									#33
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ouch.

Rommel please can you remove the game information from that post?

	18-06-2005 17:39									#34
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Sorry, was in a hurry and aggravated over the Green game...

	19-06-2005 05:49									#35
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3950bc Save to swissy. Thanks for your patience folks.

	19-06-2005 05:54									#36
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Bad news, the saves makes my game CTD when it loads. Right after I click the box that says the name and civ of who sent me the turn it crashes.

	19-06-2005 07:26									#37
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Beta PMed for a replay of the turn...

	19-06-2005 07:59									#38
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Played and resend.

I am using a normal set-up patched to 1.22.

	19-06-2005 08:15									#39
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Still SOL. On the Ladder we see this same thing happen when different language versions of the game are used with anything other than the conquests.biq file.

	19-06-2005 08:41									#40
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It must be Beta's fault for using the Canadian version, eh?

I will try a relaunch and send it to MFC again...

	19-06-2005 18:23									#41
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quote: Originally posted by Rommel2D It must be Beta's fault for using the Canadian version, eh?

Yes - the one where colour and honour and neighbour are all spelled correctly.

And furthermore, where back bacon and beer are luxury resources.

	19-06-2005 20:03									#42
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As a restart on the old map would not use the same starting locations, I generated a new one.

Could the language problem be caused by Andy's British version? That would be a bit of a sticky wicket, wot?

Seriously, I don't know that a language version is the problem- Beta sent me the turn and it loaded fine for me (the only problem I can imagine is that Swissy's PC couldn't handle how amazing his start was...). Hopefully a restart will clear it up.

	19-06-2005 20:41									#43
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Take 2.

3950BC sent to AndyDog.

	20-06-2005 08:37									#44
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quote: Originally posted by Rommel2D (the only problem I can imagine is that Swissy's PC couldn't handle how amazing his start was...).

Yes, my PC can't handle more than two cows in a start area.

	20-06-2005 14:22									#45
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quote: Originally posted by Rommel2D Could the language problem be caused by Andy's British version? That would be a bit of a sticky wicket, wot?

one would tend to agree old chap! talley ho!

3950bc --> Beta

	21-06-2005 08:13									#46
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Um - speaking of starts ... and to be honest, I thought we would be playing the same starting positions, can we try and figure out what the previous issue was.

Mediocre I can live with. This is a dramatic change from my previous start location. Rommel - please advise.

	21-06-2005 08:30									#47
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I tried one restart with the old map and it came up with different starts. I'm sorry, but I don't have a few hours to go through that PBEM launch process 12+ times trying to get the starts to come up right. If I can place them in the editor without affecting anything else, perhaps I should do that? Has anyone used the editor this way?

	21-06-2005 08:32									#48
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In the meantime, how about playing this turn once and sending to Swissy to make sure we don't still have a technical problem?

	21-06-2005 08:41									#49
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Rommel, you can indeed do it this way - i did it here.

You just have to specify the players in the Player part of the editor.

	22-06-2005 01:53									#50
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No go, same thing happens. I'll just bow out as there seems to be no solution to this. Guess something in the IC biq file doesn't work on my comp. Have fun guys.

	22-06-2005 04:59									#51
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That's very odd and a real shame.

I don't know where to go from here- Aqualung is the only player not assigned to a game, and he played against Masuro last tournament. He also hasn't responded since I emailed him for his info a couple weeks ago...

	22-06-2005 05:15									#52
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I don't mind playing against Aqualung again.

	22-06-2005 05:17									#53
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Here I am.

What civ are you guys lumping me with? And I guess I get a terrible start too?

	22-06-2005 05:43									#54
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Just answer the PM I sent you back on the 12th...

	22-06-2005 06:17									#55
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What to hear the even better part of all this. Now my Civ3Conquests won't work at all. Crashes right as it is about to goto the start menu.

	22-06-2005 06:20									#56
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Oh dear. Sorry to hear about that.

	22-06-2005 08:03									#57
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quote: Originally posted by Swissy What to hear the even better part of all this. Now my Civ3Conquests won't work at all. Crashes right as it is about to goto the start menu.

You can catch some nasty things through your ports playing MP too much.

Perhaps if you do a reinstall you will be able to play the turn. Unless you think the IC scenario caused this...

	22-06-2005 11:38									#58
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I don't think IC scenario can cause that sort of crash ... unless your hack to get colleseum to be a tourist attraction was too impressive (That's the only thing i couldn't figure out, unless you made it a wonder, added tourist, then took it back to improvement?)

<< thinks hard disk failure

	22-06-2005 14:55									#59
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quote: Originally posted by Rommel2D Just answer the PM I sent you back on the 12th...

Ok, done

	22-06-2005 15:02									#60
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Gents, I have a problem with going back to the first game. Not because my start wasn't good, but because sensitive game information was released, and was on the boards long enough for you all to see.

Sorry to be a pain..