11-06-2005 07:12									#31
	Re: *puts his hands up star trek style* BUSH!!! Immigration and patriot act...... Avatar Enlargement: We've got the solution

quote: Originally posted by Vesayen Bush is telling congress he intends to make the patriot act permanent and with our republican congress that will of course pass..... didn't we tell you this was coming? Once rights are taken away they are NEVER returned. .....there are also two bills going through congress right now similar to bushes plan about 8 months ago to basically let any foreigner into this country and give them citizenship........ After 6 and a half years of soul searching I have decided bush IS in fact the anti christ.....

Isn't this whole thread something of an attack on a strawman? Who is it who argued that partiot act was Ok so long as it was temporary? It seems to me that people who oppose it it have always opposed it no matter how breifly it would be in effect and it seems that those who supported it it have always argued it ought to be permanent.

	11-06-2005 07:13									#32
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quote: Originally posted by curtsibling Must be a Klingon battle move, or something. And on topic: The Americans get exactly what they voted for. They wanted an elitist mafia, and they got one! .

How is that statement on topic? What does it have to do with the patriot act or the OP?

	11-06-2005 12:47									#33
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quote: Originally posted by JohnT And after WW1 comedians jokes stopped being censored and after the Civil War habeas corpus was put back into effect, and etc etc.

what you fail to realize is the war on terror is unwinnable. It will go on forever. It will not ever end.

	11-06-2005 12:58									#34
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quote: Originally posted by Tattila the Hun There was this guy, who wrote a book.... He talked about power, and how, when him and his buddies finally get it, they will not give it up... Hum... Ah, Adolf Hitler.

Clearly, this is a bad analogy. Bush isn't smart enough to write a book.