20-06-2005 05:02									#31
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quote: Originally posted by Dr Strangelove Rules like that were very common in American companies in the 1950s, but were changed in the 1960s. Then as the sexual harrassment craze hit the legal scene companies began to re-instate the old rules. The problem is that other countries have different legal environments. Workplace sexual harrassment may not be considered much of a problem in Germany.

Doctor S -- you said pretty much what I was going to say. In most North American workplaces, office romances are frowned upon. Its particularly not liked if the employees wield power over one another since if it goes sour, its a textbook sexual harrasment claim.

I have no idea about the german environment but it sounds as if there is a little culture clash underway

	20-06-2005 05:08									#32
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Yeh, it's because they don't want private matters impacting the business and business matters impact private matters. Mostly it's against misuse of management power, but there are other reasons for it. Many American companies have such rules.

	20-06-2005 05:09									#33
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quote: Originally posted by Flubber I have no idea about the german environment but it sounds as if there is a little culture clash underway

That is to say things in a modest way - I guess that in most european countries such company rules would be laughted at - that is not a thing that a company has any thing to say about.

	20-06-2005 05:12									#34
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quote: Originally posted by DanS Yeh, it's because they don't want private matters impacting the business and business matters impact private matters. Mostly it's against misuse of management power, but there are other reasons for it. Many American companies have such rules.

I find it a little funny that the land of the free accepts that a company has the right to decide what people do in privacy.

	20-06-2005 05:15									#35
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Why so? An employee has the right to decide where they work (see Spiffor, etc.).

The intent of these rules are pretty above-board. Besides the legal implications, they are meant to protect employees against predatory management and against any appearance of employees climbing the corporate ladder through their private relationships.

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	20-06-2005 05:21									#36
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Maybe it's just me, but I would never work for a company that tried to meddle with my private life, and I wouldn't mind a bit if such a company went bankrupcy as fast as possible.


Edit: There are plenty of laws that prevents abuse of employees in a sexual way, so there are no reason why a company has to make rules that prevent people to have relationships just because they are working at the same place - it's just rediciously - in my current company there are plenty of that kind of relationships and we still exist.

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	20-06-2005 05:26									#37
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Why would I care if Walmart goes bankrupt?

	20-06-2005 05:26									#38
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They only ban people from hitting it if one of them has an influence on the employment prospects of the other AFAIK. We have several employees dating each other at my store and those are the only ones I know about.

	20-06-2005 05:27									#39
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Walmart employee?

	20-06-2005 05:29									#40
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Yes.

	20-06-2005 05:36									#41
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I work at a law firm and there would be nothing worse for morale than the appearance of favorable or unfavorable treatment due to private relationships. If I had a relationship with one of my close colleagues, I would feel obligated to tell my boss about it in order to protect myself, my SO, and the firm against potential conflicts of interest.

	20-06-2005 05:43									#42
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Maybe yoou should mary the firm.

Walmart(again)

	20-06-2005 05:44									#43
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quote: Originally posted by BlackCat Maybe it's just me, but I would never work for a company that tried to meddle with my private life, and I wouldn't mind a bit if such a company went bankrupcy as fast as possible.

And you're free to do both of those

	20-06-2005 05:55									#44
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quote: Originally posted by DanS Why would I care if Walmart goes bankrupt?

Well, considering that Wal-mart has more profit than any other corporation in the world...even more than the oil companies...

Besides, you just have to love corporations that except even the lowest classes of society and help the community...

Honestly, sometimes I wonder if Mr. Walmart does it because he is a true Social Democrat or because he justs wants PR and doesn't want the US imposing anti-trust laws on him....

	20-06-2005 05:58									#45
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http://www.time.com/time/magazine/a...1074120,00.html

Interesting article on the growth of Wal-mart in China and how it is changing some of the ways Chinese do business.

	20-06-2005 06:05									#46
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quote: Originally posted by BlackCat I don't understand - why should sexual harrassment be involved in this ?

In the US a person can sue their employer if any employee commits a crime like sexual harrassment if they can show the company didn't take some positive steps to reduce sexual harrassment and help prevent a permisive enviroment. That means the company has to show it is doing something to stop sexual harrassment so popular policies are paying workers to go to sexual harrassment education courses or cultural sensitivity training plus they like to come up with rules like no one in the company can date each other. They do that so that they have excuses to tell the court about how both of the couple were breaking company policy or that the accussed harrasser was breaking company policy, etc..

It's all a game to shift liability.

	20-06-2005 06:06									#47
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... back to where it should be.

	20-06-2005 06:11									#48
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quote: Originally posted by Commy Well, considering that Wal-mart has more profit than any other corporation in the world...even more than the oil companies...

http://www.fortune.com/fortune/fort...1045741,00.html

This list is just American companies listed by largest profits per year. There are a great many nonAmerican companies which are extremely profitable and if included would bump Walmart even lower.


Rank Company Profit (in millions of $)
1. Exxon Mobil 25,330.0
2. Citigroup 17,046.0
3. General Electric 16,593.0
4. Bank of America Corp. 14,143.0
5. ChevronTexaco 13,328.0
6. Pfizer 11,361.0
7. American Intl. Group 11,050.0
8. Wal-Mart Stores 10,267.0
9. Altria Group 9,416.0
10. Johnson & Johnson 8,509.0

	20-06-2005 06:24									#49
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quote: Originally posted by Commy Well, considering that Wal-mart has more profit than any other corporation in the world...even more than the oil companies... Besides, you just have to love corporations that except even the lowest classes of society and help the community... Honestly, sometimes I wonder if Mr. Walmart does it because he is a true Social Democrat or because he justs wants PR and doesn't want the US imposing anti-trust laws on him....

Nope. Still don't care. I'm neither an employee, investor, nor customer of Wal-mart.

We don't have Wal-mart in the city because the unions have managed to screw up expansion plans here by using some pretty dirty tactics. I don't think this is right and would welcome Wal-mart in town to minimize the influence of the unions. That's about as far as I get worked up over Wal-mart, either positively or negatively.

	20-06-2005 07:40									#50
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I don't often shop at Walmart but occationally it is good for something cheap and not to important. I'd never make a big purchase there like a TV or electronics but for towels, toilet paper, cheap pens, house hold stuff (hampers, trash cans, bathroom matts, candles, etc), and odd stuff like gym socks it isn't to bad. There clothes are dirt cheap but universally fall apart very quickly. If I had kids I'd buy baby clothes and stuff there since the kids would just outgrow nice clothes to quickly and if I needed things like oil filters or motor oil for my car I'd buy it there.

I'd never buy music, books, or magazines at Wal-Mart since they try to censor those items and I won't support that. Their flat pack furniture is even lower in quality then IKEA, if that is possible, so I'd avoid those items as well. In fact anything durable or over $50 I wouldn't buy at Wal-Mart. A cheap Chinese made BBQ is about as expensive as I'd go at that store since there stuff is all junk.

	20-06-2005 08:50									#51
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quote: I don't often shop at Walmart but occationally it is good for something cheap and not to important

Yeah, I bought a plunger from there and a feather duster a few months ago. I hardly ever go there, but sometimes when I need something cheap and I'm around there, I figure, what the Hell.

	20-06-2005 09:11									#52
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He's a Commy. Y'all really expect him to know the difference between profits and revenues?

	21-06-2005 22:44									#53
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I worked at walmart about 7 years ago while i was in school. While I was there this only applied if one of the people involved was managment and was a regular employee. I dated a girl that worked there with me and we even had two people get married while they both worked there. There were at least three other couples there.

	21-06-2005 22:56									#54
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When I was 16 I worked at K-Mart and it was amazing how many 18-20 year olds worked there and got married. I got a different job as soon as possible, graduated, then went off to college but when I was 26 the manager was a guy who I used to work with 10 years before. I just walked in and so him so we talked for a minute or two. I think I'd shoot myself if I worked at a store like that for that long.

	21-06-2005 23:00									#55
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Was it BGH?

	21-06-2005 23:44									#57
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Thank god he doesn't post here... Though we all know Target is the more upscale of the Wal-Mart type stores

	22-06-2005 00:08									#58
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Yeah, he's a good guy and I know he's doing right by his family. But he lives in Oregon where the cost of living is more moderate where as this occured in California and I have no idea how someone survives on such low wages.