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Ted Striker is offline Ted Striker
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Ted - if you haven't read him, he is the acknowledged founder of Cyberpunk. Actually he didn't really found it, there were other stories of that type already, but he took all the elements and put them together into well-written format. His first and most definitive work was Neuromancer, with a well written sort-of-sequal, Mona Lisa Overdrive. I will be your local library carries at least one of them, though you may have to ask them to get it on loan from another branch.

Cyberpunk from the societal standpoint posits that mega-corporations will end up ruling the world, and they will become extra- and supra-governmental entities, essentially writing the rules and dominating the world. Sort of like Blade Runner (the movie, not the book it was based on) meets Cybernetics, the Matrix, and New Age. However, he puts together all the details, including Contractors, trying to get into the Corps to so you have it set (think Japan), and a global marketplace with big corporate players from all over the world, including a heavy fixation with Asia/Japan.

My biggest issue with the Cyberpunk, which I call Cyberbunk genre, is the New Age bit. It seems, like with the Matrix, if you are killed while plugged in you die. It seems you consciousness is really out there on the net. My scenario is that Mr. Hero gets into trouble, the Black Ice (genre term for security) Cyber Samurai/Monster/Trap attacks him - and the neural and heart rate monitors unplug him, and he gets up fine, muttering "Damn it, they nailed me again." Obviously ALOT less dramatic tension. My only issue with this is that it is supposed to be Science Fiction, not Science Fantasy.


Sounds like an unfun future.

But it keeps moving in that direction.

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Sounds like an unfun future.


As I said - it shares elements with Blade Runner and the Matrix. Definitely reminds me of [i]film noir[/b] except with cyborgs and computers - others have made the comparison too

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dy...5063001082.html
Go Congress!

Imran Siddiqui is offline Imran Siddiqui

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Delay is priceless, isn't he?

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DeLay called it "a horrible decision" and said lawmakers' intervention is part of an effort to "assert the responsibility and the authority of the Congress to be a check on the judiciary."


Even though what you are doing is EXACTLY what the majority opinion told you that you should do?!

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Even though what you are doing is EXACTLY what the majority opinion told you that you should do?!

If that is what you zero in on, this is the most amusing quote for highlighting stupid House members:
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House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) criticized the measure. "When you withhold funds from enforcing a decision of the Supreme Court, you are in fact nullifying a decision of the Supreme Court," she told reporters. "This is in violation of the respect of separation of powers in our Constitution."

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Actually, depending on what funds and how much of the funds are being withheld... that may be a valid argument (the decisions technically said the states should limit eminent domain... to much withholding and it may be seen as too coercive). Though I'm surprised that no one came out and said while they hate it, it should be a state issue.

I was focusing on Delay's need to blame EVERYTHING on the judiciary.

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Actually, depending on what funds and how much of the funds are being withheld... that may be a valid argument.
I assume that it would be similar to the Hyde Amendment cutting Medicaid funds for abortion which was held to be a Constitutional use of the power of the purse.

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While I disgaree with the Court decision, can someone please take a baseball bat to Tom delay's head?

Yet another example of "states rights" republicans trampling on "States Rights".

Dirty stinking hypocrites.

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I assume that it would be similar to the Hyde Amendment cutting Medicaid funds for abortion which was held to be a Constitutional use of the power of the purse.


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Actually, depending on what funds and how much of the funds are being withheld... that may be a valid argument

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I was focusing on Delay's need to blame EVERYTHING on the judiciary.


With the favorabilty rating of Congress in the toilet, I can understand the motivation for throwing **** in a different direction.

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Add me to the list of folks who think SCOTUS went the wrong way on us.

One way to curb this kind of thing, now that the cat is out of the bag, is to start suing. Any time a government gives a sweethart deal like this ($1 per year for 99 years) every business owner in the same field should sue for anti-competitive practices.

The polity should be forced to grant every like business the same benefits. So, every hotel owner in New London should sue to make the government buy their property cash up front, and lease it back for $1 per year.

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Yeah, and if that suit has a chance in Hell of surviving summary judgment (it won't), the state will just say you can't sue on that.

You've heard of soveriegn immunity, right?

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With the favorabilty rating of Congress in the toilet, I can understand the motivation for throwing **** in a different direction.
What exactly is wrong with a) calling it a horrible decision and b) attempting to use your legal authority to blunt it?

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Well the fact that he didn't read the decision at all before shooting his mouth off.

He probably thinks he is getting one over on the Supreme Court!

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For example, on another forum, there was an article linked where Pheonix was using eminent domain to claim houses to build an ASU facility. In the article some guy said because of the recent ruling, there is nothing that can stop the city.


Did Boortz say that? Who is "some guy"?

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Um... except this was a city condemning land for a STATE University!

Boortz may know the difference, but most people seemingly don't. And that sort of paragraph doesn't help matters because it basically asserts that this ruling reduced property rights in some way.


How does that make Boortz analysis false? Your example is not relevant to this ruling, this created a new definition for the words "public use".

Maybe this will help libertarians at the local level. More people become libertarian as government becomes more abusive.

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Did Boortz say that? Who is "some guy"?



How does that make Boortz analysis false? Your example is not relevant to this ruling, this created a new definition for the words "public use".

Maybe this will help libertarians at the local level. More people become libertarian as government becomes more abusive.




In other news GA governor announced Ga's intention to legislate against private to private use of ED.

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Contrary to the 'Poly libs, Republicans are good when it comes to watching out for the little guy.

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Republican's can be good at watching out for the little guy - Neocon's are not. And guess who is running the party....

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Republican's can be good at watching out for the little guy - Neocon's are not. And guess who is running the party....
Why do people think an IR school of thought has a domestic policy?

 
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