04-07-2005 13:50									#31
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Snobbery? Maybe in Australia.

It simply balls down to a personal preference - do you want a game with competition for the ball or a game without it?

	04-07-2005 14:14									#32
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quote: Originally posted by Agathon League is simpler and more fun to watch.

A good summary, but are you describing the rules, the players or the fans?

	04-07-2005 14:40									#33
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quote: Originally posted by Park Avenue The only sport that probably comes close is Australian Rules Footie.

Shows how much Australian Rules you watch.

As anyone knows the 'game' of Rules is just a way of keeping sociopaths and psychopaths busy at the weekend.

	04-07-2005 15:42									#34
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quote: Originally posted by LDiCesare From a Union player's point of view, League is very stereotypical running into opponent hoping they'll miss the tackle.

Er no, the main idea is to avoid the opponent by skilful running and well timed passes. What you are talking about is straight running aka "hitups" by forwards to gain field position for the late set scoring plays in each set of 6.

quote: And there's beauty in Union's mauls.

Only if you like sniffing another man's bottom

	04-07-2005 17:14									#35
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quote: Snobbery? Maybe in Australia.

There's definitely snobbery over here. Many media outlets fail to even report it, despite attendances of 20000+ and yet devote regular six page spreads to union. It's snobbery because it's a northern sport.

	04-07-2005 17:25									#36
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Quite right too.

ps. Castleford - top of the league!

	04-07-2005 17:43									#37
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quote: Originally posted by Park Avenue There's definitely snobbery over here. Many media outlets fail to even report it, despite attendances of 20000+ and yet devote regular six page spreads to union. It's snobbery because it's a northern sport.

also because its linked with the grammar school system and the league broke away from union because the league players wanted to be paid to play when this was considered ungentlemanly.

	04-07-2005 17:59									#38
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I'll watch Castleford when they are on tele but I've never really got into it as a game.

Rugby Union I really enjoy but League just doesn't do it for me. It's too stop start, I know Union breaks down a lot but it's not the same.

Neither of them are a patch on football (soccer) though, obviously.

	04-07-2005 18:01									#39
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obviously....

	04-07-2005 18:03									#40
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Hey, what do you Aussies know about sport anyway.

	04-07-2005 18:30									#41
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I know we have a crap football team.

	04-07-2005 18:32									#42
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quote: Originally posted by MikeH Hey, what do you Aussies know about sport anyway.

Pommie baiting and cultural cringing- two national Australian sports.

	04-07-2005 18:49									#43
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Can you use culture in a sentence with Australian and not use the words devoid of somewhere in it?

	04-07-2005 19:36									#44
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quote: Originally posted by MikeH Can you use culture in a sentence with Australian and not use the words devoid of somewhere in it?

I would reply to this question with an unsavoury attack on both your manhood and nationality... but I'm too cultured to do so.

	04-07-2005 19:38									#45
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That's a no then.

	04-07-2005 21:43									#46
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quote: Originally posted by MikeH Can you use culture in a sentence with Australian and not use the words devoid of somewhere in it?

Yes, but only when discussing bacteriology.

	05-07-2005 03:05									#47
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voices from a fallen empire

	05-07-2005 09:09									#48
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My cultural tastes are British, American, French and Indian. Most Australians source a great deal of their culture from overseas... but that's not to say we don't have culture here. It's just, in my opinion, parochial and boring.

	05-07-2005 11:55									#49
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there's a very pronounced Australian culture and lifestyle

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The high point of which appears to be getting a job as bar staff as far away from Australia as possible.

	05-07-2005 13:33									#51
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Well, it gives real rugby a bad name ...

[Edit: LMAO@Laz ]

	05-07-2005 14:48									#52
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And an Australian and a Soccer fan are telling me Union still has a problem with snobbery, is anti-Northern (lame PA, very lame) and deeply associated with Grammar schools?

Gentlemen you are living a quarter century in the past at the very least. Your comments are as anachronistic as a Union fan arguing that League is only watched by old men in flat caps!

Oh on a subsequent reading it appears PA meant that the media is snobbish - can't say I have noticed that as the BBC has endless League coverage when it has sod all Union on these days.

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	05-07-2005 16:22									#53
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That will be because it's summer therefore league season? And it has had some stuff about the lions tour?

	05-07-2005 17:36									#54
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quote: Originally posted by Lazarus and the Gimp The high point of which appears to be getting a job as bar staff as far away from Australia as possible.

Brits can't get jobs as bar staff here - they don't work hard enough.

	05-07-2005 18:02									#55
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That's because bartending is for lower races like Australians, Kiwis and South Africans.

	05-07-2005 19:40									#56
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And beer drinking is for Brits.

As a crowd drawing sport Union is entirely on subscription TV (Sky). The Lions bits on the Beeb are scraps cast off by Sky when they are finished with them.

Only bits of league are on Sky - the unvalued tournaments (e.g Challenge Cup) all get shown on the BBC.

League moved it's season to summer because it was dying trying to compete with Football and Union in the winter. Crowds are currently growing - but it isn't in the robust health PA might like you to believe.

Some of what League is doing is frankly a little laughable - witness the presence of Toulouse in the cup competition. It's an artificial team stacked with Aussies and Brits - so who are the League boys trying to fool?

	05-07-2005 20:25									#57
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Look! A Frenchman!

*Dracon ducks out of view... hoping those insufferable poms will be fooled by his decoy Chirac cardboard cutout*

	06-07-2005 02:40									#58
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union - kick off - mall collapses - the play breaks down - scrum - play breaks down - someone kicks the ball out - play breaks down - stoppage while they line up - ball isn't thrown in straight - stoppage - do it again - everyone line up again - someone gets the ball and kicks it out again - start again after a stoppage..... that's the first 5 minutes and so on for 80 minutes.

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	06-07-2005 09:46									#59
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Damian would be greatly saddened, I'm sure, to hear his dear old dad talk about his team like that ...

	06-07-2005 14:38									#60
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Horsie, I believe a mall is what Americans shop in.

Rugby players maul.