14-07-2005 21:46									#31
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quote: Originally posted by DanS Do Canadians watch the NFL or do they watch the CFL?

or neither

I would bet it would depend on what part of the country you are in. I know people that prefer one over the other (both ways) but no clear majority preference.

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quote: Do Canadians watch the NFL or do they watch the CFL?

CFL tends to play Friday night, so as not to conflict with either hockey on Saturday, and NFL football on Sunday. Like I said, the winters are long and cold, and most of the time is spent indoors.

	14-07-2005 21:48									#33
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Gotcha. What about high school or college football?

	14-07-2005 21:52									#34
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quote: Originally posted by DanS Do Canadians watch the NFL or do they watch the CFL?

Many watch both. The seasons only overlap for a portion since the CFL is more of a "summer league"-- ie 3 weeks into the regular season now-- plus as someone pointed out, the CFL is careful to not schedule itself against other sports

	14-07-2005 21:55									#35
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quote: Originally posted by DanS Gotcha. What about high school or college football?

Those are the only football games this Canadian has gone to see. Highschool b/c we got an afternoon off class (we usually went home) and University b/c it was a great drunk.

The big spectator sport for me in highschool was...you guessed it - Hockey.

Again, I suspect the popularity of football at all levels varies across the country as I suspect it does in the US as well.

	14-07-2005 21:58									#36
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http://www.cbc.ca/arts/tv/nascar.html

quote: The 2004 CFL ratings were 438,000 for CBC games, and 311,000 for TSN matches.

http://www.nflcanada.com/NFLCanadaNews03/1210.html

quote: This season, (2003) NFL broadcasts on TSN are averaging 355,000 viewers

DanS made me curious as to see who has the higher ratings.

	14-07-2005 22:16									#37
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quote: Originally posted by Wezil Those are the only football games this Canadian has gone to see. Highschool b/c we got an afternoon off class (we usually went home) and University b/c it was a great drunk. The big spectator sport for me in highschool was...you guessed it - Hockey. Again, I suspect the popularity of football at all levels varies across the country as I suspect it does in the US as well.

Indeed it does. Sometimes different levels are more popular in different areas. For instance, Northeasterners seem to follow the NFL more than college or high school. Mostly, the football teams for big city high schools are very poorly attended.

The real winter spectator sport is basketball at all levels. The NHL and minor league hockey had patiently built a solid fan base in many areas before the strike, on the other hand.

	14-07-2005 22:18									#38
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Those are interesting numbers Ben. Although I suspect the number vary throughout the season. I was surprised that the CBC numbers were that much higher than the TSN ones.

For the record, I watch the CFL, used to watch the NFL, saw a few college games, and never watched high school.

As for the actual topic. It's nice to see the players crushed like that. They should have dealt early. But then I stopped paying much attention to hockey after the last strike.

	14-07-2005 22:18									#39
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Your college ball is definitely more popular than college (uni) football here. The national championship is broadcast but few watch.

	14-07-2005 22:21									#40
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Yes, college football is huge in many areas -- sometimes much more than the NFL. College football takes up Saturdays on the TV through November.

In my home town, Columbus, I'm sure they make sure to schedule NHL games well away from OSU football games on Saturdays during that period.

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	14-07-2005 22:27									#41
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quote: Originally posted by Wezil I watched hockey last year. Good hockey. I have no interest left for NHL. Crap league and increasingly crappy product. It was good to have a year off to see what I wasn't missing.

When I was back in Canada last December I saw a couple of Kooteney Ice games (WHL). Great hockey, good skill, no delays for commercials and even a couple of fights which is all my nine-year-old nephew remember.

When we got home his dad asked "How was the game?"
"Great," Kalum said "There were two fight."
"Oh yeah, what was the score?" his dad said.
"I don't know, but the Ice guys won both fights."

A good Canadian boy.

	14-07-2005 22:33									#42
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Yeah, I used to go all the time to the WHL games in Prince George. The Cougars have great community support, but not so great a team.

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quote: Originally posted by Tingkai When I was back in Canada last December I saw a couple of Kooteney Ice games (WHL). Great hockey, good skill, no delays for commercials and even a couple of fights which is all my nine-year-old nephew remember. When we got home his dad asked "How was the game?" "Great," Kalum said "There were two fight." "Oh yeah, what was the score?" his dad said. "I don't know, but the Ice guys won both fights." A good Canadian boy.

I will be a hockey fan to the day I die, but I'm done with NHL. Like an earlier poster (Garth) I was really pissed the last time they went on strike. I am not prepared to forgive the overpaid whiners a second time. The quality of play has been dropping for decades and now we are faced with repeated strikes. Who needs it?

	14-07-2005 22:39									#44
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I've got mixed feelings about the NHL. A couple of months after seeing the WHL games, I went to the Hockey World Cup. The skill level there was infinitely higher. There were dozens of plays and saves that just blew my mind.

But I'm pissed off at the owner. All they care about is how much money they can make. In the meantime, what have they done to make the game better? Nothing so far.

One thing they need to do is get rid of the two-line pass rule. The World Cup games were a hell of a lot better without it.

	14-07-2005 22:46									#45
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The quality of play in the NHL probably has been declining because of expansion. 30 rosters.

	14-07-2005 22:47									#46
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quote: Originally posted by DanS The quality of play in the NHL probably has been declining because of expansion. 30 rosters.

That and the coaches are too smart for their own good, making game plans that make the game dull.

	14-07-2005 22:49									#47
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I was trying to get the ratings numbers for HNIC (Hockey Night in Canada) to give the Americans an idea of just how big Hockey is in Canada, compared with football, and it's usually around 10 times the viewership. It would be proportional to getting an audience of 30 million in the US.

	14-07-2005 22:50									#48
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To be honest, I'm sort of wonder why Canadians like the NHL so much. Most of the teams are in American cities.

	14-07-2005 22:53									#49
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In my case, when i was just a boy of 7 or so, the Montreal Canadiens won their 92-93 cup. That was huge for me.

It doesnt matter what the rules are, or who the players are, or what their making. If I see something resembling hockey being played by a bunch of guys in the Bleu Blanc et Rouge, i'll have to cheer.

In my case, I cheer for the laundry, as the saying goes.

	14-07-2005 22:55									#50
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Well, we tend to watch the Canadian teams. Even when there were only 6 teams in the league, 4 of the 6 were American.

My team has, and always will be the Vancouver Canucks. Like Ninot, I used to wear the pumpkin orange.

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quote: Originally posted by Ben Kenobi My team has, and always will be the Vancouver Canucks. Like Ninot, I used to wear the pumpkin orange.

I don't care what anyone says, Vancouver jerseys always look awesome.

And they put on a great show in 94.

	14-07-2005 23:13									#53
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That is an ugly jersey. Unique, but ugly.

However, maybe ugly is intimidating.

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	14-07-2005 23:16									#54
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My favorite was Buffalo. Before you groan consider that I grew up watching the French Connection (Perreault, Martin, Robert). End to end hockey that you just don't see anymore.

	14-07-2005 23:16									#55
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Tuberski:

They used to have blue uniforms. The theory went that bright orange would keep the players better motivated then blue.

	14-07-2005 23:22									#56
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Well, ABC uses a mustard yellow color in their advertising to help soothe people and keep them on the channel.

They are barely beating FOX.



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	14-07-2005 23:22									#57
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quote: Originally posted by DanS To be honest, I'm sort of wonder why Canadians like the NHL so much. Most of the teams are in American cities.

It's still a fundamentally Canadian game with by far the largest contigent of players coming from Canada. A tremendous number of the players on the US teams grew up playing minor hockey in Canada

	14-07-2005 23:31									#58
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Compare the Canucks jersey with the Habs one, and you'll see why ninot calls them the bleu blanc et rouge.

	14-07-2005 23:35									#59
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Tricolore jusqu'au bout!

	15-07-2005 00:59									#60
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There's just something unCanadian about boycotting Tim Hortons.